Suleman The Bhoot

[Sabre Sword]

i thought in sikhi we don't really believe in ghosts

What made you think that? if you don't mind me asking.

[kaur_khalistani_lioness]

goto 16:00 duration. he says mukti tapaysya se nai milti.

I dont think suleman is saying dont meditate on god, please khalsa force can you quote what suleman is exactly is saying, please do quote the time track, i listened to this tape loads of times no where he says naam simran saie mukhti nahi hogi, he however put lot of stress upon concept of murshid(guru) in his tape which is coming into fold of khalsa panth be guru vala by taking amrit.

umm find the answer to this: what does it mean to do Tapaysya?

thats key

[khalsaforce]

tapaysya means to meditate basically.

goto 16:00 duration. he says mukti tapaysya se nai milti.

I dont think suleman is saying dont meditate on god, please khalsa force can you quote what suleman is exactly is saying, please do quote the time track, i listened to this tape loads of times no where he says naam simran saie mukhti nahi hogi, he however put lot of stress upon concept of murshid(guru) in his tape which is coming into fold of khalsa panth be guru vala by taking amrit.

umm find the answer to this: what does it mean to do Tapaysya?

thats key

[Guest s133k_s1kh]

I haven't heard the audio, but it must say something more then just tapasya.

Rishis, Munis and Sadhus used to go to Jungles to do tapasya, may be he is refering to that tapasya.

Tapsya does mean meditation, but its a very vague definition. Tapasya involves cutting yourself from the outside world.

[Nimarta_Sahet_Benti_Vichar]

LOL, im speechless after goin thru the entire course of 'debate' tht took place.. haha

[$ingh $oorma]

I haven't heard the audio, but it must say something more then just tapasya.

Rishis, Munis and Sadhus used to go to Jungles to do tapasya, may be he is refering to that tapasya.

Tapsya does mean meditation, but its a very vague definition. Tapasya involves cutting yourself from the outside world.

In Gurbani it says there are many different kind of tapasyeas:- One can tap on someones name, one can tap on his job, one can tap on life, one can tap on grihst, one can tap on lords name... TAP means remembering, meditating basically for a reward at the end...

That is not what our gurus want us to do..(I forogt the gurbani verse but will post as soon as i find it.. it goes something like, Tapa Tap Karte...)

[N30S1NGH]

I haven't heard the audio, but it must say something more then just tapasya.

Rishis, Munis and Sadhus used to go to Jungles to do tapasya, may be he is refering to that tapasya.

Tapsya does mean meditation, but its a very vague definition. Tapasya involves cutting yourself from the outside world.

In Gurbani it says there are many different kind of tapasyeas:- One can tap on someones name, one can tap on his job, one can tap on life, one can tap on grihst, one can tap on lords name... TAP means remembering, meditating basically for a reward at the end...

That is not what our gurus want us to do..(I forogt the gurbani verse but will post as soon as i find it.. it goes something like, Tapa Tap Karte...)

Suleman is referring to an tapasya which rishi munniya's do, he even laugh at rishi muniyas who force themselves to meet vahiguroo. he says in urdu- mukhti dakhai saie nahi, jugti(pyaar) saie milti hai. No where he against the bhagti principle of sikhism which is bairaag gursikhi sehaj avastha marg which is contary to some rishi moniyas and yogis who force them selves to get grace by doing hard tamoguni, rajoguni tapyasa(hard penances).

[$ingh $oorma]

I haven't heard the audio, but it must say something more then just tapasya.

Rishis, Munis and Sadhus used to go to Jungles to do tapasya, may be he is refering to that tapasya.

Tapsya does mean meditation, but its a very vague definition. Tapasya involves cutting yourself from the outside world.

In Gurbani it says there are many different kind of tapasyeas:- One can tap on someones name, one can tap on his job, one can tap on life, one can tap on grihst, one can tap on lords name... TAP means remembering, meditating basically for a reward at the end...

That is not what our gurus want us to do..(I forogt the gurbani verse but will post as soon as i find it.. it goes something like, Tapa Tap Karte...)

Suleman is referring to an tapasya which rishi munniya's do, he even laugh at rishi muniyas who force themselves to meet vahiguroo. he says in urdu- mukhti dakhai saie nahi, jugti(pyaar) saie milti hai. No where he against the bhagti principle of sikhism which is bairaag gursikhi sehaj avastha marg which is contary to some rishi moniyas and yogis who force them selves to get grace by doing hard tamoguni, rajoguni tapyasa(hard penances).

Yes, thats what the verse i wanted to say means..

[Prabhs_Sidana]

Veer Jio ,

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

The Story depicted above is 100 % true as you'll be delighted to know that the person whose body Suleman Pret had claimed was my Uncle(Actually my father's Mama Ji) and to your surprise that Uncle was also reincarnated after his death and it was also published in some newspaper. My father told me all that stuff coz it was my Grandpa who took him to Sant Isher Singh Ji (Rara Sahib Wale).

[VanHelsingh]

Is this real? After reading about the account of the conversation some parts seem true, others are a bit....well. I'm a bit concerned how much power the Sant in question can wield. Surely only God can control birth?