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Although Baba Banda Singh Bahadur may not have had darshan of Dasam Guru Granth Sahib as a saroop , no doubt he had access to the main bani in it , which forms part of the nitnem , ardass and so on. When you mention the Sikhs of the 1980s , these people were infused wiv bir rass because of saint soldiers like Sant Jarnail Singh. If only we had someone like him today. May Akal bless those fine young men who gave thier lives for the freedom of the Sikh nation. May Akal bless us wiv the same spirit that we may be able to one day reach thier standards.

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Although Baba Banda Singh Bahadur may not have had darshan of Dasam Guru Granth Sahib as a saroop , no doubt he had access to the main bani in it , which forms part of the nitnem , ardass and so on. When you mention the Sikhs of the 1980s , these people were infused wiv bir rass because of saint soldiers like Sant Jarnail Singh. If only we had someone like him today. May Akal bless those fine young men who gave thier lives for the freedom of the Sikh nation. May Akal bless us wiv the same spirit that we may be able to one day reach thier standards.

banda singh bahadur did have access to shri akali dasam guru granth sahib, alongside the means by which he could summon to shaheed army, or gupt fauja. These texts were kept gupt to the dal, thats why thee are no records untill 1800 or whatever

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Although Baba Banda Singh Bahadur may not have had darshan of Dasam Guru Granth Sahib as a saroop , no doubt he had access to the main bani in it , which forms part of the nitnem , ardass and so on. When you mention the Sikhs of the 1980s , these people were infused wiv bir rass because of saint soldiers like Sant Jarnail Singh. If only we had someone like him today. May Akal bless those fine young men who gave thier lives for the freedom of the Sikh nation. May Akal bless us wiv the same spirit that we may be able to one day reach thier standards.

Quite true, but as you will notice Baba Banda Singh Bahadur did not have the 'full' Dasam Granth as it was still to be complied a few decades after his Shaheedi. The reason for my pointing out these facts is to highlight the Sanatan types attempt to divide Sikhi into a type of mini-Hinduism rather than one united Panth as created the Gurus. Mirroring the caste system of the Hindus into the so-called samparda system. Just as the Hindus have the Kshastriyas the Sikhs are now given the Nihangs as their warrior caste. Just as Brahmins in Hinduism we are presented the Nirmalas. Just as the ascetics amongst the Hindus we are given the Udasis. I suppose the Sikhs who do not fit into the these categories the Sikh mainstream as well as Jathebandia like AKJ and DDT are derided as the outcastes!

The other side of Sanatanism is the notion of 'gupt' Granths as well as 'gupt' knowledge. Along with this is the division into Shaant and Bir Ras Granths. So we get fairy stories about Granths being kept 'gupt' when the facts clearly state that the most Bir Ras Sarbloh Granth was not with the Khalsa in Punjab until after 1800. Mahakaal Singh can regurgitate the same old stuff that is on Sanatan sites but even the Budha Dal states that Sarbloh Granth came to Punjab after 1800. It is easy to try and introduce a text into Sikhism simply by answering the lack of any history of that text by stating that it was kept 'gupt'. Shaant and Bir Ras notions also fall flat when you look into the fact that Guru Hargobind Singh's Army fought many battles but it did not possess a Bir Ras Granth.

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I dont question dasam bani, i dont have enough knowledge of it. my nitnem includes jaap sahib, sawaye, chaupi, as ordered by panj :)

also, dont you think that if guru gobind singh wanted us to treat dasam bani like we treat guru granth sahib jee then he would've for sure added dasam bani to guru granth sahib jee. look, all i am saying is that guru granth sahib jee is our present and forever guru.

BUT, dasam bani, since it is writings of guru gobind singh jee is also respected and followed by the panth.

its just a play of words really. i can't explain myself properly i guess :)

Singh.. Do u know something... SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI MAHARAJ's banee is in SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIBJI MAHARAJ.... n u r saying that "dont you think that if guru gobind singh wanted us to treat dasam bani like we treat guru granth sahib jee then he would've for sure added dasam bani to guru granth sahib jee."...

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so according to mr. mahakaal (shiv jr.) singh (Aad) siri Guru Granth Sahib ji is limited?!?! are you the type who beleives that reading bani of Guru Granth Sahib ji will make a guy feeble hearted and thats why granths dasam and sarbloh was written to get rid of the feebleness? what a joke!!!!

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so according to mr. mahakaal (shiv jr.) singh (Aad) siri Guru Granth Sahib ji is limited?!?! are you the type who beleives that reading bani of Guru Granth Sahib ji will make a guy feeble hearted and thats why granths dasam and sarbloh was written to get rid of the feebleness? what a joke!!!!

"Feeble" is your own wording, not anyone elses. Your the one who is making assumptions, no one said that Aad Guru Granth Sahib is limited in any way. This paranoia is killing the minds of Sikh youth, who believe everyone is out to get them, think out side of the box for once mate.

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