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Baba Jagjit Singh, Harkowal Wale


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Please dont make this into a nindiya thread or anything and i mean that with the purest of intentions but i have a great need to know who Baba Jagjit Singh, Harkowal wale is... can anyone provide any information as to who he is? His "status" in the panth? Like i mean, is he ex-communicated from the panth?

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Sant Jagjeet Singh Ji Harkhowala are a great mahapursh, they are based at Ber Sahib Gurdwara in Sultanpur Lodhi, they were one of three sants who carry on the harkhowal lineage along with Sant Didar Singh and Sachkhand Vasi Sant Jodh Singh. All learned from Sant Jawala Singh Ji Harkhowalae and are a samparda from Hoti Mardan lineage.

Their katha is very good.

check out the video section on

www.gurmatveechar.com for the 6 hour long videos of Sukhmani Sahib Katha and

www.keertan.org for lots of their katha.

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He is just anand moorat, as sony said try to meet him personally if you can. Also if you want baba ji audio and video bachans i have loads , in a nutshell- i have 20 gigs of his stuff including rare videos from early 1990's. Baba ji gave das seva to spread advait gurmat sidhant. here are some of his lectures from the books he gave me which i managed to type:

Atamik Vichar part 1:

http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...t=atamik+vichar

Atamik Vichar part 2:

http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...t=atamik+vichar

Atamik Vichar part 3:

http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...t=atamik+vichar

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He's from Harkhowal Dera in Hoshiarpur which was founded by the famous Sant Jawala Singh Ji.

Sant Jawala Singh Ji did the Sangat of Sant Baba Aya Singh Ji of Hoti Mardaan.

He does very good Gurbani Katha.

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Does he ALLOW people to matha tek to him then? Coz i know people do it and im a bit puzzled. If he is so amazing - and i am not saying he isnt by any means because i dont want to do any nindhiya of sants etc - then how come he allows people to bow down to him. It is this i dont get. Believe me, i have a very valid point as to why i am raising this so please can you reply with mature posts. Because i do need some guidance here as to what to do in a tricky situation...

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SAnt Ji like most sants allow this, however they get really touchy when people touch their feet. All Sants allow people to bow to them take the Rara Sahib Sants, Nanak Sar Sants, Bhindra Sants including Sant Jarnail Singh Ji and many many mahants.

The only sants i knwo of that dont allow this are Sant Seva Singh Ji Rampur Khera Walae.

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I disagree that Sant Jarnail Singh Jee Bhindranwale ALLOWED people to bow to him. Just because a whole load of "Sants" allow people to bow to them, doesnt make it right though does it? And Im not judging right and wrong by personal opinion, but by the Gurmat i have been taught through out the years...

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My friend if you dont believe that SAnt Jarnail Singh Ji allowed people to bow to them ask people like giani thakur singh ji, sant sukhchen singh ji, giani pritam singh ji, sant major singh ji all who were with sant jarnail singh ji in their time, come and talk to alot of singhs in leicester as well who were contemparies of Sant ji.

if you still dont believe me then please check the following video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6wEqmk4cG8

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Ok where in that video bruv did sant jee let someone bow to him? :umm:

I dont want to get into a discussion about this as i am not learned and i know very little but i dont believe Sant jee let people bow to him... n theres a difference between people bowing to you and you letting them bow to you...

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Singh i agree we do not need this discussion, but no sant asks anyone to bow to them, people do because of sharda and respect that is all. In the video all you see is Sant Ji giving their speech and people are placing money at their feet and bowing to them.

Please let me know which sants do ask people to bow to them, i will take it up with the samaj myself if this is the case as this is a sign of ego.

Back to the point Sant Jagjit Singh Ji are currently writing a book called Bhannu Parkash. If anyone wants a copy of Bhannu Parkash and Suhail Parkash by Sant Jagjit Singh Ji the downloadable copies are available on a thread on sikhawareness.

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Its peoples MANMATT. Sant jee said so many times "dont matha tek to me" but people did. Every time i do a TINY bit of seva, people give me praises etc and no matter how many times i tell them not to do my vadiyayee, they dont listen to the point i just give up and ignore them.

And its as i said, there is a difference between people bowing to you, and letting them bow to you. Maybe you cant kick someone if they bow to you, but u sure can do ure best to tell them not to. Theres only so many times you can say it until u just think "Oh allow it"...

I have yet to meet the baba jee in the topic title but will share my experiences and thoughts afterwards..

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It's funny how this pakhandi baba business can make some people become so easily shortsighted/deceived that they dont even realize what is right or wrong when it comes to the real deal, Sant Jagjit Singh Ji has told people not to bow to them or have moved out of the way on numerous occassions infront of my own eyes, usually the older sangat Baba ji doesnt really say anything too, but they sure as hell dont say "bow to me" lol as mentioned before, it wasnt a big deal for other mahapursh and it isnt now, Sant Jagjit Singh Ji is a pooran bhramgianee so Id watch what you say about them or others like them.

Admin, this has been discussed too many times and carpe diem isnt going to sway anyone nor are we going to sway him it seems. as for his experience, it makes no difference really..so can we please clsoe this? thanks

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I wasnt criticising Sant Jagjit Singh, so dont get me wrong. Im not out to offend neone, just giving my opinion and in terms of watching what im saying, i have not said anything derogatory about any Sant. Obviously he is revered by the saadh sangat. N i didnt say any of the sants have told sangat to bow to them so i dont know what you are on about there.

How am i or anyone else meant to learn if we cant even question things that are on our mind? Sikhi isnt about "blind-faith"... its about "true-realisation".

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