Amrit And Why Not?

[B4ND4]

sikh ney amrit ni rakhna, amrit ney sikh rakhna

Did you just invent your own quote? Wasn't it something like "sikh ne rehit ni rakhni, rehit ne sikh rakhna"

[Guest Akirtghan]

lol i duno man, i heard that somehwere :wub:

[Mista Singh]

If you got true pyaar for Guru Ji, then just give your head. Guru Ji will take care of the rest.

Before i took Amrit i was a gangbanger controlled by maya, Guru Ji blessed me with the Saadh Sangaat, i learnt about Sikhi and took Amrit straight away, allow EVERYTHING else its not gonna follow you after death, not even your Momzy or Dadzy are, so why listen to anyone or get attatched to your looks or whatever, its all dust. Everything thats holding you back is your enemy and will continue to do that for aslong as it can. Remember Guru Ji only wants the strongest in the Khalsa so the thought thats making you think twice is maya, so fix up and give the panj chore a knockout uppercut and take the oath. You can spend all your life trying to get ready to take Amrit. You never know whats gonna happen tommorow.

You gotta ask yourself whats really important in life and why were really here.

Allow trying to build up rehit and all that, its just wasting time. Like i said before, if you got the true pyaar give your head and Guru Ji will take care of the rest. I cant stress that fact enough.

SAVE YOUR SOUL!

Fateh Ji :nihungsmile:

[Gurparsad]

this is an amazing story of a singh's transition into sikhi - http://forums.waheguroo.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry143312

WAHEGURUJEEKAAKHAALSA WAHEGURUJEEKEEFATEH

Dear Saadh Sangat Jee,I know the topic of this thread is Manmukh to Gurmukh.Well I was definitly a Manmukh,but I am no way a Gurmukh.

I used to drink alcohal,smoke cigarettes,smoke weed,and alot of other stuff.I got into so many fights,I was kicked out of 7 different high schools.In grade 9 I was suspended 7 times for getting into fights,and grade 10 I was suspended 14 times for fighting and selling weed.I was a total thug,caught up tryin to be a gangsta and be a tough guy and basically I was so lost in life.I really didn't have any morals,I wanted to be known in the streets and to have people fear me.The thing that I wanted most in life was to have so-called "Respect" on the streets.

When I finished high school,then I moved onto the club scene.Me and my friends went around beating people up for no reason,we would beat people with bats,break bottles over their heads,anything you can think of,I have done it.

Growing up I had love for God,but I didn't know how to express that love.I didn't know how to accept God's love either.I knew nothing about Sikhi,my parents are totally white washed and are atheists,so I wasn't raised to have faith in the Creator.I had no knowledge about this amazing way of life called Sikhi,I didn't know the names of any of the Guru Sahibs,let alone know any of the teachings of the Guru's.The only time I went to the Gurdwara was when I had to go to a wedding or something.

When I was younger I would ask my family what was happining during the programs,but they didn't know anything about Sikhi themselves and they were there only to show their faces,so what could they teach me??? I'm third generation Canadian born,and my family has lost all connection to Sikhi and Punjab.

My great grandfather Bhai Partap Singh Johal came to Canada with a group of 5 Singhs from Jandiala Punjab in 1906.Bhai Hurdit Singh Jee,Bhai Sadhu Singh Jee,Bhai Diwan Singh Jee,Bhai Takhar Singh Jee and my great grandfather Bhai Partap Singh Jee came by a ship that sailed from Calcutta to Hong Kong.

In Hong Kong the Singhs had to change to another ship that took them to Victoria B.C.,Canada,and from Victoria they went to Vancouver B.C.

Bhai Partap Singh worked in the lumber mills in and around Vancouver.The Sikhs in those day's would make about 20cents a day,they all would put their money together to buy atta to make roti and buy some vegtables to make daal.They would keep some money for housing and the rest they would send back to India to their families.

My great grand father worked in Canada from 1906 to 1919 when he went back to Punjab to get married.In 1924 Bhai Partap Singh Jee,his wife Bibi Tej Kaur Jee and their first son Asa Johal came back to Canada to live.Bhai Partap Singh Jee and Bibi Tej Kaur Jee would go on to have 8 children,the second oldest is my grandmother Asi Johal.

While growing up in Canada my grandma and her family would try their hardest to fit into Canadian society,but they faced many hardships.My grandmother was married to my grandfather,who had just arrived from India in 1939,when she was 16 years old.My grandparents had 4 children,the middle child was my mother.

During the time that my mother was growing up in Canada alot of the children of the Sikh pioneers were losing their culture and were becoming westernized.They had no time for the Gurdwara,they were trying to fit in with the Caucasian majority.Alot of the children of the Canadian Sikh pioneers felt weird that their parents spoke another language,Punjabi, and because of it they would be made fun of at school.I guess alot of these kids felt ashamed because they were considered "second class".

Both of my parents are Canadian born,they both know nothing about their culture and religion,and that is how my sisters and me were raised.To some extent,I grew up with my family telling me that I am Canadian nothing else,not Sikh,not Punjabi,not Indian.

To white people I'm nothing but a "Hindu,Paki,Rag head,immigrant" and to Punjabi's I'm a coconut,brown on the outside but white on the inside.I was totally confused about who I was and who I belonged to.

So many years went by of me asking myself Who am I?? Who are my people?? What is my religion?? Where do I belong??

All of my friends growing up were Punjabi,they all spoke Punjabi and knew a few things about Punjab and a few things about Sikhi.I would get bugged alot by them because I was a "fake' Punjabi,I didn't know anything about my culture,I couldn't even speak Punjabi.

Finally when I was 21 years old,I had enough of being lost.I was lost spiritually,lost mentally,lost in a religous sense and lost in a moral sense.

It was then that I went to the local library and started to read books on Sikhi.First it was 1 book,then 2,then 5,then 10,then 100,then 200,then 300,with Guru Sahib's Kirpa I have had the emmense blessings to have been able to read over 400 books on the Sikh religion, and the teachings of the Sikh Guru Sahib Jee's.

Slowly my life started to change,I didn't want to go out to a club anymore,I didn't want to sit around and drink with my friends,all I wanted to do was stay home and read about the amazing history of the Sikh Nation.I was blessed with being able to read about how Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj Jee went to so many countires to cure humanity of the illness of the Panj Chors(5 thieves) that rob mankind of their connection with God.I was given the gift of knowing that Sri Guru Arjan Dev Jee Maharaaj has built Sri Harimandir Sahib to give people from all corners of the world a place to come and worship together the Almighty Creator.I was blessed enough to know that Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Jee Maharaaj has given the Sikhs the command to live their life's as Sant Sipahi's(Saint-Soldiers).I was blessed enough to know that Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Jee Maharaaj had given his own head to protect another's right to their religion,and I was blessed enought to know about Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee.

Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee,what can I even say about Kalgidhar Patshah Jee.It is this Guru who gave birth to the seed planted by Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee,this Khaalsa Panth,these saints,these soldiers,these lovers of the truth,these lovers of humanity,these humble kings and queens.

Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee has given his whole family so that we can live free today,Guru Gobind Singh Jee has given us Panj Kakaars,

these gifts that tells the world who our father and mother is,they let the world know who we belong to,Guru Gobind Singh Jee who has filled us with Bir ras so that we can face the enemy,the tyrants with no fear in our hearts and minds.

Dhan Dhan Sachey Patshah Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee the one who is there to lift up your head when you feel down,the one who holds you when you cry,the one who takes you by the arm to show you how to be a man,a woman,a son,a daughter,a husband and wife.Guru Gobind Singh Jee the commander who leads us in battle against the evil of this world,the light that keeps the sun shining,

the calm at night,the peace in our hearts,the shastars in our hands,Our Guru is all these and more.

Guru Sahib Jee has shown me so much mercy and forgiveness,this amazing Guru has changed my life.

On September 18th 2005 I stopped cutting my hair,shaving and gave up all the alcohal and partying.Guru Maharaaj had told me that I will die very soon if I do not stop living my life the way that I had been for so many years.Guru Sahib told me to have complete faith and love for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee,if I do this,if we all do this then we will forever be protected and we as the Khaalsa will be exalted to the highest postion,spiritually,physically and mentally.I had 90 days to prepare myself to take Amrit.

After a couple weeks of keeping my kes uncut my dhari was coming in,my family was getting very angry with me,calling me names and trying to convince me that I will go nowhere in life if I chose to become a Sikh.By this time I had moved in with my grandmother because of problems I had with my parents,and on October 1st 2005,I woke up to go to school and my grandmother said to me that I had to move out of her house because I was doing nothing with my life.She said to me "Who will ever give you a job with that beard,no one wants to have a unclean looking person working for them.You wont get a job and I wont support you looking like this!".

She then told me that I had until 3pm of that day to shave or I had to leave her house.I went to school that day,but couldn't really focus on anything,I was really concerned with what was going to happin when I went home.Would I have to sleep on the street??

or go to a homeless shelter?? I had no clue what was going to happin.

Lucky for me though the Gurdwara Sahib was only 5mins away,so I went there and did Matha Tekna to the king of kings,Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaaj and then did Ardaas and asked my Guru to please help me.

I then talked to the Giani Jee's and told them my situation,they were so supportive.They told me that I could stay at the Gurdwara if I needed a place to stay.Guru Sahib had brought these Singhs into my life for a reason,they taught me how to read and write Gurmukhi so that I could do paat properly,they were teaching me punjabi,they showed me how to do Sukhasan di Seva of Guru Sahib.

I then left the Gurdwara around 2:00pm,I was really not looking forward to the situation that I knew I would have to face.But when I got home my grandma wasn't home.I started to pack up some clothes though so that I could take them with me when I got kicked out.While I was doing that I found a business card that someone had given to me a few months before,it was a business card for a security company.I thought to myself that I might as well call them to see if they had any job openings,and what do you know? the boss asked if I could start that day at 4:00pm.

So here I was now with a job,2 hours before I was stressed out because I thought I would be living on the streets.I went to work that day and the boss didn't care that I had a dhari.Guru Jee answered my Ardaas so quickly,this is just another example of how Guru Jee takes care of their Sikhs.

When I came home from work that night,I told my family that I have a job and that having a dhari will in no way keep me from working.

A couple weeks later I started wearing a dastaar full time and my family really started to freak out,they wouldn't want to be seen with me in public.I got more rude comments,they said that I was an embarresment to them and that all the hard work that they have done to become Canadian,that I just ruined it all for them.

I then started to try to find info on when the next Amrit Sanchaar was going to happin,I e-mailed the sevadaars at B.C.Sikh Youth and they told me that an Amrit Sanchaar will be happining in December.I was so happy,finally I could wash away my past karams(actions) and become the person that I was sent to this earth to become.

The Sevadaars from B.C. Sikh Youth also told me about an upcoming Akhand Jaap that was going to take place at the Guru Nanak Academy,I knew that I had to go.

On November 20th 2005,I arrived at the Guru Nanak Academy in Surrey and let me tell you Sangat Jeeo,it felt like Sach Khand.Never in my life have I seen Sangat as amazing as this,in my city of Victoria there is not too much Sangat,a hand full of Amritdharis and there is hardly any keertan programs.So being at the Guru Nanak Academy and seeing Gursikhs from the ages of 2 years to 90 years was the most breathtaking sight that I have ever seen.

I got to meet Gursikhs that day that I truelly admired,I had seen pics of these Gursikhs on different websites,I had heard katha done by them,I had seen them in the Gatka Mixtape part 2,I had seen websites that they designed.These Gursikhs who I met that day are now my bestfriends,I want to take this oppurtunity to thank them for all their support and love.You all are truelly amazing people.Guru Sahib Jee has truelly taken care of me,not once has he left me alone.Guru Jee had found me a job,had given me Sangat of his Gursikhs and Guru Jee was about to give me the greatest gift.

On December 25th 2005,this piece of dirt,this animal,the lowest of the low was given Amrit Di Daat.Here was this guy who spent his whole life running away from good deeds,trying to be a criminal,here I was now in the Darbar of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee ready to give my head to the Guru and become a Sikh of Guru Nanak Dev Jee.

Just thinking back to the Amrit Sanchaar brings tears to my eyes,the Panj Piaarey,wow what can I even say,Guru Roop Panj Piaarey.

The whole experiance is something I try to think about everyday,just watching the Panj Piaarey stir the Amrit with the Khanda while they recited Panj Bania that is the most mind blowing experiance.

When the Amrit was created and it was time to give Khandey Di Pahul to those giving their heads,I was blessed by the Guru to be the first one to recieve Amrit.I can't really put into words what happined next,it will be an experiance that I will never forget.

I was also renamed that day by Guru Roop Panj Piaarey,the first Akhar(letter) of the hukamnama was Kakka,and the Panj Piaarey named me Karamjeet Singh,which means having Victory over you Karams(actions).Guru Sahib picked the name that best described my situation in life.

All I can say now Saadh Sangat Jee is please give your heads to the Guru while you still can.I know alot of people say "Oh well I want to become a Sikh,but I'm too young,maybe when I'm older".We have to remember that nothing is guaranted in this world except death,you can die in 5 years,5 months,5 days,5 minutes or 5 seconds from now.Recieve the gift of Amrit while you still can.

My whole life has changed since I became a Sikh,everything that has happined is Guru Sahibs hukam.My worldy parents have disowned me,my worldy father hasn't talked to me for almost a year,and my worldy mother hasn't talked to me for about 6 months.

It's ok because my real father and mother,Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee and Sri Mata Sahib Kaur Jee talk to me all day everyday.They show me all the love a child can ask for,they forgive me for all the screw up's I do,and show me how to be a true human being.

Saadh Sangat Jee please forgive me for any mistakes that I may have made while writting this post,I am only the dust of your feet.

If anyone has found anything inspirational in this post,please remember that we can do nothing in life without the Guru's love,support and guidance.I am a fool,I am only alive today because Guru Sahib Jee has saved me from the pool of filth that I was swimming in.

I am not a Gurmukh,but with Guru Sahib's Kirpa I am not a Manmukh.We can all be saved from the evils of this world as long as we look to the Guru to save us.Have full faith in Waheguru Jee,grab onto the holy Charan Kamal(Lotus Feet) of the Guru and never let go.

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Akaal Sahae

Karamjeet Singh

WAHEGURUJEEKAAKHAALSA WAHEGURUJEEKEEFATEH

[Wicked Warrior]

<<<< I can do Japji Sahib paat in five mins (timed myself) >>>>

Wow Yaar, koi janatay jana ???? Take your time and savour it, contemplate on it.

What one needs to do is set your life around your paath/simran. If you try to fit the paath simran around your life then always it will get moved and pushed out of the way.

When I was able to do that, I was 16-17 years old. More recently, I began to realise that it doesn't matter how many I do.

What matters, which is what I heard in a katha, was that if your mind hears the paat, only then does the Guru hear it. He was trying to say something similar - basically take your time and make sure you're not just moving your tongue about whilst your mind is on other things. From then on, I tried to stop moving my tongue by biting (softly) on it, forcing my mind to do the paat instead of the tongue.

Still very hard tho.

[Seva]

im more scared of not keeping my amrit once its done than doing it. Ive seen many people who take it cus they feel they r ready and after a couple of years they slowly start missing nitnem, getting up too late etc. and eventually end up back where they started and i really hate this. I dont want to be one of those people...!

i feel that i will do it when Guru Ji calls for my head and i feel that time is coming very soon, it makes me sad to see the state of our sikhi today, corrupt commitees, beadbi, false sects, our youth being manipulated by the older generation politicians who are all talk but no action and use brave young khalsa to help settle personal scores, etc etc.... ! :wub:

Having said that, i have the utmost respect for any person that can live according to our Gurus Hukam and be a true sikh, :WW:

[Bundha]

Good one wicked warrior.

It is said that when you start on the path of paath you start with doing it aloud. Then it quietens down to a whisper and then only your lips move, your "phall" has increaded ten fold, then as you progress and you do paath simran in your mind, without lips movng, your "phall" has increased 100 fold.

I think preparing for amrit is good, but a lot of times this is just a thinly veiled way of not taking amrit and one fools only oneself. I would say.................. just do it, and let Guru Ji help you in your rehat. If you have given your head then let Guru Ji worry about your rehat.

[Guest Dancing Warrior]

I’m still trying to understand “Ek Onkar” I haven’t even got to “Sat-nam” very long journey ahead could take another thousand life times, as possibly it may have taken to get to this stage here and now. :wub:

[4givme4mysins]

Ek Onkar Satnam

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Sangat Ji please do not take offence of what i am about to relay. I was once told when you think YOU, I am not ready for Amrit you are thinking like a Manmukh, when you want to take it as soon as possble you are thinking like a Gurmukh. If one thinks about what is actually a Manmukh you will understand the above. Like i said before please do not take offence of this, its is a point of view.

Gurfateh Ji

"I have no name"

[JustME]

Ek Onkar Satnam

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I was once told when you think YOU, I am not ready for Amrit you are thinking like a Manmukh, when you want to take it as soon as possble you are thinking like a Gurmukh. If one thinks about what is actually a Manmukh you will understand the above. Like i said before please do not take offence of this, its is a point of view.

a very good point veer/pehnj its all this me me me, i i i that has lead to the problems we are having today....................