Prof. Darshan Singh

[Charandhoor Singh]

Hes been an opponent of Dasm Pathshah's bani for a while now, if I remember correctly he was also a critic of the Akhand Path of Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji held a while back.

Good call by AKJ, would be good to see AKJ and its splinter groups puruse a similar stance on an international level. Im sure senior members of AKJ in India are part of the IHRO on Dasam Bani, what is the stance of AKJ's outside of India?

[lovekhalistan]

Check out my old post on Shri Dasam Granth before any argument.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=32820

[ssinghd]

http://www.panthic.org/news/129/ARTICLE/3808/2008-01-10.html

[Gurbar Akaal]

http://www.punjabheritage.org/manuscripts/...tani-jatha.html

[Jasjit]

From the "Learning Zone" Discussion Group:

Rumours and Propaganda about Prof. Darshan Singh

Posted by: "sarabjeet_great" sarabjeet_great@yahoo.com sarabjeet_great

Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:40 am (PST)

Yesterday, I, along with some other journalists, had an informal

conversation by Prof. Darshan Singh, regarding misinformation being

spread about him. He revealed very interesting information about some

recent incidents :

1) The first rumour about Prof. Darshan Singh is that he was denied

the permission to do kirtan at Hazoor Sahib.

About this rumour, the renowned ragi informed that on the morning of

his first day kirtan at Hazur Sahib he, during the explanatin of

gurbani, told the sangat that every speaker is claiming that it was at

Hazur Sahib where Guru Gobind Singh conferred guruship on guru granth

sahib (at that time called 'adi granth'). He raised the question that

whether the tenth Guru simultaneously conferred guruship on any other

scripture or person? If not, then how comes that another scripture

(read dasam granth) is being given the status of guru (at hazoor

sahib). The ragi said in his kirtan that he would expalin about the

concepts of 'guruship' and the need to have 'guru' in the evening.

The management of hazur sahib became anxious that the prof. could

create a public opion against their highly objectionable policy of

creating a guru (dasam granth), parallel to guru granth sahib. They

held a discussion with DSGMC president S. Paramjit Singh Sarna.

Thereby, Mr. Sarna requested just to do kirtan in the evening and no

'explanation' should be done. The prof. denied to kirtan on

conditional basis and didn't perform kirtan at all in the evening. The

next day, he left back for New Delhi.

2) The seond rumour about the prof. is that he was denied permission

to do kirtan at a gurdwara Guru Tegh Bahadur in Jalandhar.

About this rumour, Prof. Darshan Singh informed that the president of

the above mentioned gurdwara had been requesting him for a long time

to perform kirtan at this gurdwara. Accordingly, prof. Darshan Singh

fixed the date of 13th Jan 08 to do kirtan at the above mentioned

gurdwara. However, owing to the previous rumour, the president of the

Gurdwara (Mr. Gaba) got apprehensive and asked some other member to

make a phone call to the professor.

The person requested the ragi not to take up the issue of 'Dasam

Granth' during his kirtan at the Gurdwara. According to prof. Darshan

Singh, he immediately told the committee member that he won't be

coming to the gurdwara (to do kirtan under specific terms & conditions).

3) The third rumour is that Prof. Darshan Singh was even denied the

permission to do kirtan at Darbar Sahib, Amritsar.

About this rumour, Prof. Darshan Singh revealed that he never had

himself requested the SGPC for the permission about kirtan at Darbar

Sahib. Instead, someone from Sikh sangat wished that and made a phone

call to Jathedar Avtar Singh Makkar, making a request for the purpose.

Makkar, on his part, said something highly uncivilised as his reply.

The professor says that he does have the recording of this phone call

but will release it in future, at an appropriate timing.

4) Another rumour (or well-planned propaganda) about Prof. Darshan

Singh is that he is a hypocrite who earlier used to perform kirtan

from the writings of Dasam Granth but now is preaching against them.

About this blame, Prof. Darshan Singh informed that in his opinion,

those writings of Dasam Granth can be read, sung and discussed, whose

message is in line with the philosophy of Guru Granth Sahib. He,

however added, that even these writings should be treated as

literature and not as 'guru'. He said that if a person, organisation

or gurudwara is indulged in giving guru like status to any other

scripture than Guru Granth Sahib, then that person or institution is

directly and intentionally violating the order of Guru Gobind Singh

(about giving guruship only to 'Adi Granth'). He said that he is ready

to discuss the topic of Dasam Granth with any 'Sikh' because this an

issue of the Sikh community. He said that those challenging him for a

public dialogue should just prove that they are Sikhs by acknowleding

publicly that they do not treat any other scripture like guru, other

than Guru Granth Sahib.

He requested that whether he himself is a good Sikh or bad Sikh, but

he requests all the Sikhs that they should read and understand the

messages of Guru Granth Sahib during the current 'Shatabdi'.

Sarabjeet Singh

New Delhi, India

Editor-India Awareness

Ph. : 9871683322

Website : www.indiaawareness.com

Email : editor@indiaawareness.com

[AK-47]

4) Another rumour (or well-planned propaganda) about Prof. Darshan

Singh is that he is a hypocrite who earlier used to perform kirtan

from the writings of Dasam Granth but now is preaching against them.

About this blame, Prof. Darshan Singh informed that in his opinion,

those writings of Dasam Granth can be read, sung and discussed, whose

message is in line with the philosophy of Guru Granth Sahib. He,

however added, that even these writings should be treated as

literature and not as 'guru'.

What the heck!!!!

The pavitar GURUbani of GURU GobIND Singh Ji maharajh is being reduced to 'literature'!!!!

So the GURUbani of Jaap Sahib, Swaiyeh and Chaupai Sahib and then parts of Rehraas sahib are all literature? So in our nitnem, we read some gurbani and some literature do we?!?

Its been clearly highlight previously on this forum as well, that the Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharajh. But the bani from the guru's i.e. GURUBANI is still gurbani even if it is not in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji as it was utterred and written by the beautiful mouth and pen of our gurus. As such pooran satkar should be shown to this gurbani, as it is the gurus word!

Shocking that this so called professor can speak such vile from his mouth!!

Even the anti dasam granth nutters dont say that the nitnem bania above are not gurbani!!

[khalistan_zindabaad]

^^^

They reject all of it, rather interesting that some jathas are raising issues about it, as not long ago well established members were writing articles against dasm granth. LOL. interesting

[GuruManeyoGranth]

Professor's losing the plot!

[Fearless khalsa]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh ... what the hell ...why this so called newspapers n these guys who call themself parcharak doin this.. by commentin like this ..they dont have respect for bana and bani ...how can they call it Dhikhava .... Waise Kasoor ehna da vi nahi ...ehna ehh rass shakya hi nahi so ehh ki janan .. bana hunda ki ... they comment on Bhai Randhir Shingh ji.. ehh ki janan uhna da jeevan.. pehlan aisa jeevan lai ke aun fer kuj bolan layi agay aun ... Prof Darshan Singh is sayin m doin parchar .. so let me tell you ..in Delhi Gurudwara comety election .. Prof Darshan ne Sarna layi parchaar kita .. jithay vi Sarna group de members si uhna de area jaa ke Prof Darshan singh ne kirtan kita .. and badal de khilaaf bolya... i attend one of his divaan .. Where all the arangement was of Sarna Group... and bhai sahib was just preaching against badal.. this spokesman is supporting Prof Darshan singh only coz he is against badal ...

[Inder Singh]

From the "Learning Zone" Discussion Group:

Rumours and Propaganda about Prof. Darshan Singh

Posted by: "sarabjeet_great" sarabjeet_great@yahoo.com sarabjeet_great

Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:40 am (PST)

Yesterday, I, along with some other journalists, had an informal

conversation by Prof. Darshan Singh, regarding misinformation being

spread about him. He revealed very interesting information about some

recent incidents :

1) ......

The above site is known anti dasam Granth site. It always has articles against Dsam Granth.

What this editor is writing is misleading as he is not mentioning Delhi incident. The essence of this news is that Darshan singh will not come forward to discuss with Singhs as he knows that his knowledge about Dasam Bani is very shallow.