Naomi Judd

[Mkhalsa]

Khalistani jeeo,

I cannot remember the specifics, but opening your dasam duar is but the first stage in the road to sachkhand. For manmukhs like us, that seems like it is way up there. But for someone who has reached this stage, there is still a long road ahead of them. I beleive they reach karam khand upon opening dasam duar. This does not give them brahmgyan nor give them jeevan mukhti. From this point there are other realms and khands for them to conquer before gaining brahmgyan and ultimately jeevan mukhti. This in itself could take lifetimes.

One does not have to be a Sikh to open dasam duar. Many hindu ascetics (whom stars tend to go to for some reason) have opened their dasam duars through different mantras and meditations. But this does not lead them to god. They beleive opening hte dasam duar is nirvana, their final stage. They cannot go beyond this. It must bring incredible pleasure, but it is nowhere NEAR the final stage.

Once one opens dasam duar, or reaches any spiritual state, this does not make them any less human. Like every other human they are open to fall. If she has no knowledge of gurmat and does not want to be a gurmukh and happened to open her dasam duar, chances are it closed again because she does not have the gyaan to keep it open, nevermind go further. That would explain many of khalistanis points.

KHalsa jee said:

Dasam duar is very difficult to open, thus far there's no written hand book or a specified way to open your dasam duar (obviously).

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Singh jee, you are wrong. Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee is the only author to have written extensively on this subject! He has written many books pertaining to this, one being "Anhad Shabad Dasam Duar" which has also been translated into english.

[Akaali]

MKhalsa veerji:

Singh jee, you are wrong. Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee is the only author to have written extensively on this subject! He has written many books pertaining to this, one being "Anhad Shabad Dasam Duar" which has also been translated into english.

I was trying to say, there's no specific steps you can take to open your dasam duar. Its not in any "BOOK" or instructions. If you wanna open your dasam duar, your instructions are in Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj. And what Guru sahib speaks the language of LOVE, so basically to open your dasam duar it depends on your love, you can't pick up a book, and try to open your dasam duar. Its much more than that.

Bhul chuk maaf!

[Jaspaul Singh]

MKhalsa veerji:

Singh jee, you are wrong. Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee is the only author to have written extensively on this subject! He has written many books pertaining to this, one being "Anhad Shabad Dasam Duar" which has also been translated into english.

I was trying to say, there's no specific steps you can take to open your dasam duar. Its not in any "BOOK" or instructions. If you wanna open your dasam duar, your instructions are in Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj. And what Guru sahib speaks the language of LOVE, so basically to open your dasam duar it depends on your love, you can't pick up a book, and try to open your dasam duar. Its much more than that.

Bhul chuk maaf!

TOTALLY AGREE!

[Gupt daasan daas]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

nice post khalsa je, u too mkhalsa je

bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[theturbanator]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

in my opinion, she looks like the mean lady from 101 dalmations in the first pic

[Khalsa4ever]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

No offense, Khalistani, but you have no right to judge anyone or say if waheguru has blessed someone, healed them, or joined with them! You are not God, and obviously then you don't how how God works.

On top of that, how do you know how one with their "dasam duar" opened looks? That is something that you cannot tell from a picture, and since you have never met this individual, you actually have NO IDEA what she is about, what she does, or who she is.

Don't judge others without the facts.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

[japmans]

unless of course, Khalistani is a maha puran brahmgiyaani....

the argument about "we can't judge rss", is so ridiculous, mainly cuz RSS is an evil and an ennemy to the sikhs.. a god-conscious human being, like Naomi Judd MAY (or may not) be is NOT...

we don't JUDGE the RSS... we talk about their ridiculousness

[Pheena]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

No offense, Khalistani, but you have no right to judge anyone or say if waheguru has blessed someone, healed them, or joined with them! You are not God, and obviously then you don't how how God works.

On top of that, how do you know how one with their "dasam duar" opened looks? That is something that you cannot tell from a picture, and since you have never met this individual, you actually have NO IDEA what she is about, what she does, or who she is.

Don't judge others without the facts.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Word

Reading from a book does not mean you KNOW. You have simply taken someone elses knowledge. Know for yourself what Dasam Duar feels like then you have every right to make comments on whether if it has opened or not. if your have opened, then im very muc in the wrong here and i apologize.

btw how do u know that picture is recent, how do u know the transformation on her face hasn't taken place. You have to be in the physical presence of the person to feel their presence in what

ever status it might be. Pictures cannot and Do not do justice.

[Mkhalsa]

ok, lets all lay off khalistani veer jee. He was expressing a good, gurmatish point of view. No need to attack. He didnt attack any of you. Dont attack the person, attack their arguments. Hes a good singh.

[Gupt daasan daas]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

all i say is

jeao nirmal bahroh nirmal

please read the tuk i posted

i am no brahm giani, i am not worthy to be the dust on your feet

and these pics are from her site

bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!