Bhang Brings You Closer To God?

[SonyNeech]

read itehas of misl bhangiya ... every thing would be clear ... alcohal used in sharab form can harm ur liver and senses ... same alcohal used in medicine form can save you from death ... same is case of bhang abuse it u would loss your conscious use it as per mareyada told by guru sahib it would give u strength physically as well as mentally ...

if u believe in GURBANI..and u belief what are GURBANI sayin all true and GOD'S order and GOD'S mind..what GOD want and like so plz

Below are Vichaar on the salok of Bhagat Kabeer Jee. The vichaar on one of the salokhs is below which covers the meat topic well:

ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥

ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥

Kabīr bẖāʼng mācẖẖulī surā pān jo jo prānī kẖāʼnhi.

Ŧirath baraṯ nėm kī­ė ṯė sabẖai rasāṯal jāʼnhi. ||233||

Literal Translation:

"O Kabeer! Those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine

- no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233||"

(SGGS - Ang 1377)

Meaning of words:

Note:- Through the Revealed Word of God, Bhagat Kabir Ji explains to himself to instruct the world about the prohibitions in religious discipline (kurehits). It is false to believe that this salok (hymn) only prohibits the consumption of cannabis, fish and alcohol. One has to look beyond the surface level and dive deeper into Gurbani. Guru Ji cannot make a vast list of drugs, foods and wines that one is forbidden to eat or drink. This would be a waste of time. Instead Guru ji categorises drugs, meat/flesh/killed animals and wines/alcohol under three categories which represent all products associated and in the same category.

ਭਾਂਗ (bẖāʼng) = marijuana, cannabis |

The category of 'cannabis' or 'bhung' includes opium, heroine, tobacco, and all drugs whether inhaled, eaten, smoked or injected through needles.

ਮਾਛੁਲੀ (mācẖẖulī) = fish |

The category of 'fish' includes all killed animals whether sea animals (e.g. cod, haddock, crab, whale etc) or land animals (chicken, goat, cow, pig etc.) and all allied products like egg, i.e. all meat and flesh.

ਸੁਰਾ (surā) = liquor, alcohol | ਪਾਨਿ (pān) = one who drinks |

The category of alcohol or wine includes all types of alcohol whether beer, whisky, rum, brandy, or any type of wine etc.

ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ (jo jo prānī kẖāʼnhi) = whosoever, everyone | ਖਾਂਹਿ (kẖāʼnhi) = eat, consume |

Gurbani is not prohibiting drugs, meat and alcohol to only Sikhs. It is clear that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is addressing everyone, i.e. Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs and the whole world.

ਤੀਰਥ (Ŧirath) = pilgrimages |

Guru Ji is addressing everyone and not only Sikhs. For Hindus, pilgrimage is bathing at the sixty-eight sacred places revered across India. For Muslims, pilgrimage is going on Hajj, i.e. visiting Mecca. For Christians, pilgrimage is visiting Bethlehem and Jerusalem. For Sikhs, pilgrimage in a physical sense is visiting Sri Harimandir Sahib (also known as the 'Golden Temple') in Amritsar as well as other historical Gurdwaras in India and Pakistan, but in a spiritual sense pilgrimage means travelling from your mind to one's soul through bathing and immersing oneself in Naam.

ਬਰਤ (baraṯ) = fast |

Hindus keep fasts on certain days related to their deities as an act of penance. Muslims observe 'Roza' or a fast during the month of Ramadan. Christians keep a fast or give up certain foods during 'Lent' (before Easter). Sikhs observe the permanent fast of not telling lies, not cheating anyone else or stealing the wealth of others.

ਨੇਮ (nėm) = (religious) routine, practice | ਕੀਏ (kī­ė) = perform, follow |

Hindus perform daily rituals (puja) and chant devotional prayers as part of their daily routine. Muslims perform five prayers (namaaz) as part of their daily routine. Christians say the Lord's prayer as part of their daily routine. Sikhs wake up Amrit-vela (the early ambrosial hours) and repeat and meditate upon Naam (the Divine-Name) followed by reciting the five prayers of the morning, and reciting Rehraas Sahib in the evening and Sohila Sahib before bed.

ਤੇ ਸਭੈ (ṯė sabẖai) = they will all |

Again, Guru Ji talks about everyone. There are no exceptions.

ਰਸਾਤਲ ਜਾਂਹਿ (rasāṯal jāʼnhi) = become useless, there is not an iota of benefit, go to hell. |233|

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, the Pefect True Guru, the Complete Truth, the Word of God, the Universal Truth, instructs us that if anyone (irrespective of faith or background) consumes drugs or intoxicants, eats any fish or meat, or drinks any wine or alcohol then all their pilgrimages, fasts and religious practices and prayers lose their value and become worth nothing. That person becomes worthy of hell and reaps no benefit from his religious commitments and efforts.

This salokh on ang (page) 1377 is crystal clear that a Sikh is prohibited from eating meat or any flesh. Anyone who accepts and has full faith in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as their Satguru will not doubt Gurbani. With one Hukam from Gurbani a Sikh accepts and obeys. On the other hand, a Manmukh would continue to ask for further proof or evidence and remain unsatisfied and unwilling to submit to the instructions of Satguru.

JIN KO PREM KHALAN KA CHAHO

SAR DHAR TALI GALI MERY AAO

IT MARAG PAIR DHAREEJEY

SAR DEEJEY KAAN NA KIJEY

what u mean by rastafari

Ya ne ponimayu. Vy ne mogli by govorit pomedlennee?

drast vich minia kha-rahoyee drug

kagda ti uvi dimsa landnnaaa

pajaluta chitaeo rusky dictionaria

aeta ni pravada

[mahaan_moorakh]

IF YOU ACTUAL LISTEN TO WHAT THE NIHANG IS SAYING YOU WILL REALISE THAT THE BRAHMAN WHO HAS TRANSLATED IT IS TWISTING HIS WORDS AND SECODLY THE BATA HES CARRYING ONLY CONTAINS WATER!

DONT BE FOOLED!

[Guest peacemaker]

drast vich minia kha-rahoyee drug

kagda ti uvi dimsa landnnaaa

pajaluta chitaeo rusky dictionaria

aeta ni pravada

K sazhalyeneeyoo mnye para eettee. Da sveedaneeya. Eezveeneete. Neechevo srashnava. Dobriy vyecher.

[Techno_singh]

not it does NOT , bhang not allowed in sikhi! only thing we should be getting high on is naam- VAHEGUROO

[Bored]

educate yourselfs before saying it kills you and its bad. How do you react when one insults the kirpan? People use it for their spiritual purposes (rastafarians).

Get a life!

u wanna tell people there bad? did u notice your self insulting others? A sikh?

PrIdw jy qU Akil lqIPu kwly ilKu n lyK ]

fareedhaa jae thoo akal latheef kaalae likh n laekh ||

Fareed, if you have a keen understanding, then do not write black marks against anyone else.

AwpnVy igrIvwn mih isru nNØIvW kir dyKu ]6]

aapanarrae gireevaan mehi sir na(n)aeevaa(n) kar dhaekh ||6||

Look underneath your own collar instead. ||6||

we all got our own problems fighting the 5 vices etc. so mind ur own.

[AvnitK]

ok bhang I knoe its used by nihungs but no seriously nno its not allowed in sikhi

[N30S1NGH]

Bhang either was used on skin or intake used to releif the wounds back in the puratan times also if shaheedi degh is made in puratan nihang maryada to remember shaheeds, i wouldnt mind having it all in name sake of shaheeds, and keeping up khalsa bol bola traditional alive by reciting - Gurparsad Bhram ka Naash || if i ever go through sansa during the act. But i wouldnt go far as making ridicolous statements like - bhang brings closer to god....quite rubbish really if you think of statement over again.

[THE WARRIOR]

From the spiritual angle Or a religious one as people consider them the same as that is what people have addressed here, deception is far more dangerous, more than bhang, both invoke devotion. Look at history and look at today all the atrocities committed by the religious elite, how many were on marijuana? The worst situation being deception, lies, falsehood and common perceptions are free and predominantly available and many suffer it’s ill effects without even being aware.

[SonyNeech]

not it does NOT , bhang not allowed in sikhi! only thing we should be getting high on is naam- VAHEGUROO

what kind of person you are man ?? :gg:

one side u r saying WAHEGURU and other hand u don't want to believe in GURBANI...

veer ji u can get WAHEGURU through his way ,if u create own path so it never goes to TRUE GURU..WAHEGURU GOD

Below are Vichaar on the salok of Bhagat Kabeer Jee. The vichaar on one of the salokhs is below which covers the meat topic well:

ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥

ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥

Kabīr bẖāʼng mācẖẖulī surā pān jo jo prānī kẖāʼnhi.

Ŧirath baraṯ nėm kī­ė ṯė sabẖai rasāṯal jāʼnhi. ||233||

Literal Translation:

"O Kabeer! Those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine

- no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233||"

(SGGS - Ang 1377)

Meaning of words:

Note:- Through the Revealed Word of God, Bhagat Kabir Ji explains to himself to instruct the world about the prohibitions in religious discipline (kurehits). It is false to believe that this salok (hymn) only prohibits the consumption of cannabis, fish and alcohol. One has to look beyond the surface level and dive deeper into Gurbani. Guru Ji cannot make a vast list of drugs, foods and wines that one is forbidden to eat or drink. This would be a waste of time. Instead Guru ji categorises drugs, meat/flesh/killed animals and wines/alcohol under three categories which represent all products associated and in the same category.

ਭਾਂਗ (bẖāʼng) = marijuana, cannabis |

The category of 'cannabis' or 'bhung' includes opium, heroine, tobacco, and all drugs whether inhaled, eaten, smoked or injected through needles.

ਮਾਛੁਲੀ (mācẖẖulī) = fish |

The category of 'fish' includes all killed animals whether sea animals (e.g. cod, haddock, crab, whale etc) or land animals (chicken, goat, cow, pig etc.) and all allied products like egg, i.e. all meat and flesh.

ਸੁਰਾ (surā) = liquor, alcohol | ਪਾਨਿ (pān) = one who drinks |

The category of alcohol or wine includes all types of alcohol whether beer, whisky, rum, brandy, or any type of wine etc.

ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ (jo jo prānī kẖāʼnhi) = whosoever, everyone | ਖਾਂਹਿ (kẖāʼnhi) = eat, consume |

Gurbani is not prohibiting drugs, meat and alcohol to only Sikhs. It is clear that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is addressing everyone, i.e. Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs and the whole world.

ਤੀਰਥ (Ŧirath) = pilgrimages |

Guru Ji is addressing everyone and not only Sikhs. For Hindus, pilgrimage is bathing at the sixty-eight sacred places revered across India. For Muslims, pilgrimage is going on Hajj, i.e. visiting Mecca. For Christians, pilgrimage is visiting Bethlehem and Jerusalem. For Sikhs, pilgrimage in a physical sense is visiting Sri Harimandir Sahib (also known as the 'Golden Temple') in Amritsar as well as other historical Gurdwaras in India and Pakistan, but in a spiritual sense pilgrimage means travelling from your mind to one's soul through bathing and immersing oneself in Naam.

ਬਰਤ (baraṯ) = fast |

Hindus keep fasts on certain days related to their deities as an act of penance. Muslims observe 'Roza' or a fast during the month of Ramadan. Christians keep a fast or give up certain foods during 'Lent' (before Easter). Sikhs observe the permanent fast of not telling lies, not cheating anyone else or stealing the wealth of others.

ਨੇਮ (nėm) = (religious) routine, practice | ਕੀਏ (kī­ė) = perform, follow |

Hindus perform daily rituals (puja) and chant devotional prayers as part of their daily routine. Muslims perform five prayers (namaaz) as part of their daily routine. Christians say the Lord's prayer as part of their daily routine. Sikhs wake up Amrit-vela (the early ambrosial hours) and repeat and meditate upon Naam (the Divine-Name) followed by reciting the five prayers of the morning, and reciting Rehraas Sahib in the evening and Sohila Sahib before bed.

ਤੇ ਸਭੈ (ṯė sabẖai) = they will all |

Again, Guru Ji talks about everyone. There are no exceptions.

ਰਸਾਤਲ ਜਾਂਹਿ (rasāṯal jāʼnhi) = become useless, there is not an iota of benefit, go to hell. |233|

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, the Pefect True Guru, the Complete Truth, the Word of God, the Universal Truth, instructs us that if anyone (irrespective of faith or background) consumes drugs or intoxicants, eats any fish or meat, or drinks any wine or alcohol then all their pilgrimages, fasts and religious practices and prayers lose their value and become worth nothing. That person becomes worthy of hell and reaps no benefit from his religious commitments and efforts.

This salokh on ang (page) 1377 is crystal clear that a Sikh is prohibited from eating meat or any flesh. Anyone who accepts and has full faith in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as their Satguru will not doubt Gurbani. With one Hukam from Gurbani a Sikh accepts and obeys. On the other hand, a Manmukh would continue to ask for further proof or evidence and remain unsatisfied and unwilling to submit to the instructions of Satguru.

[Charandhoor Singh]

Before implying that people who take bhang dont beleive in Gurbani, did it ever occur to people that there are various ways to interpret Gurbani. If we use the popular rationale then we can also conclude that it is against Sikhi to butter your roti, after all Bhagat Fareed ji writes:

jinaa khaadhhee choparree ghanae sehanigae dhukh ||28||

Those who eat buttered bread, will suffer in terrible pain. ||28||

Bhang is not taken as a drug, we are brought up in the West to think that it is a drug, what is it at the end of the day its a plant. People take it as drugs which is wrong. which unfortunately many people do an abuse the tradition.

As has been mentioned naam is the true drug Gurmukh should strive for. If someone uses bhang to increase their concentration when doing naam and bani that how can we ridicule the statement that it helps them get close to God? Nihang Singhs in India who do amritvela from 12am - 7 am, are you gonna go and tell them what they are doing is wrong when many of us get up at 7am? If someone take bhang and does no naam bani or seva that you can tell them its wrong all you like.

Best to ask those who use it how it helps them get to God, rather than ridiculing what is unquestionably an ancient maryada of the Khalsa just because we have been brought up in the West to beleive its a drug.

Popular analogy is he who take bhang with a thief will become a theif, he who takes it with a saint will become saintly, and he who takes it with a warrior will become like a warrior.