Ragi Darshan Singh A Bollywood Actor

[Inder Singh]

Ragi Darshan Singh: A Jathedar from Bollywood ?

After Takht Sri Patna Sahib sevadars issued an unprecedented ‘Hukamnana’ against the controversial Ragi, Darshan Singh, it seems like sheepish individuals and organizations are now declaring the Ragi a Panthic ‘martyr’ and an innocent ‘victim’ of some hidden conspiracy between corrupt ‘Sikh High Priests’ and the RSS.

All of the sudden the bugle of “Reverence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Sri Akal Takht Sahib” is being blown by those who have never shown concerns about the ongoing sacrilege being committed by the Ragi and his nastic sidekicks.

Perhaps, its time again to ask the classic question: Where were they (these so-called Panthic yodhays) when:

• Reverence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji was being ridiculed and derided by those like the Nirankaris who refer to living Guru of the Sikhs as a mere book which is not worthy of more respect than a common library paperback.
  
• The sacred Angs and Saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji were being tossed on the ground and treated no better than ordinary newspaper or magazine by our own Panthic institutions.
  

• The Authority of Sri Akal Takht Sahib Ji was being undermined by the likes of Gurbakhsh Kala-Afghana and other delusional heretics who have consistently declined to appear in front of this supreme Takht for their anti-Gurmat actions.
  

The answer is nowhere. There concern is NOT about Reverence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji or respect for the authority of Sri Akal Takht Sahib; the concerns of Ragi Darshan Singh’s supporters are completely different.

Silent on Beadbi of Guru Granth Sahib Ji

Why is the Ragi completely silent on the ongoing beadbi at Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee's printing press? Does the Ragi not have guts to ciritize Sarna, for allowing such beadbi under his watch?

Very conveniently, the Parkash of Dasam Granth at Takht Patna Sahib seems to be more of a priority for the Ragi than what is happening in his own backyard.

It is obvious that Darshan Singh himslef has violated multiple directives of Sri Akal Takht Sahib by criticizing the Bani of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, enshrined in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. The directives of May 14th, 2000, and November, 17, 2006 clearly mandate respect for Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. The second directive from Sri Akal Takht Sahib actually makes it clear that those who criticize the contents of Sri Dasam Granth are “mischievous elements”. Moreover, another directive was issued on January 8th, 2007 cautioning the Sikh Community on Ragi Darshan Singh’s misleading parchar.

Yes, it is unprecedented for Takht Sri Patna Sahib to issue such a decree, but was it not the duty of the current Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, Joginder Singh Vedanti, to summon the roguish Ragi for his continual violations? Perhaps if Joginder Singh Vedanti had fulfilled his duties as the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, this Ragi’s anti-Gurmat follies could have been curtailed much earlier.

Restaurant Hukamana by Kala-Afghanis ?

Due to various violations, Darshan Singh has not been allowed to use most Gurdwara stages in his home town of Toronto, Canada for many years. Not welcomed in Panthic circles, his supporters had to resort to holding functions inside banquet halls and resturarants many times.

It is a well known fact that several years ago, the Ragi participated in an Akhand Patth and Kirtan Divan that was held at the Congress Party member owned 'Lal Suhag' Banquet Hall in Brampton, Canada, where liquor and meat flow frreely. Like Paramjit Sarna, the Ragi's closest supporters are mostly Congress party members. It's a shame that a person who calls himself ex-Jathedar and lectures the Panth on Dasam Granth feels more comfortable in the company naastics and patits, who do now even know the names of the Nitem Bani

Those are very people who last week honored him inside a restaurant hall for his ‘Panthic’ services. Incidentally this was the same gathering that “ex-communicated” Giani Iqbal Singh from the Panth. Ridiculously, the same people who deplored the Patna Sahib decree have in past issued their own ‘matta’ from within a “restaurant”, absurdly surpassing even Giani Puran Singh’s HukamNama issued from the Guna Railroad station.

No complaints during Jathedari Days

If one listens to Ragi Darshan Singh’s current tirades against Dasam Bani, RahitNamas, and Nitname Banis, one wonders what circumstances made him qualify to become the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib? During his Jathedari, he had frequented Takht Sri Patna Sahib, and Hazur Sahib many times. At both Takhts parkash of Sri Dasam Granth is done on smaller lower Palki in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Interestingly, being the Jathdar if Sri Akal Takht Sahib, he could have easily brought about changes to this maryada. Yet, he never once complained about this situation. Now, more than 20 years later he realizes the truth? Or is this just one big act?

Darshan Singh: The Bollywood Ragi

The above movie, titled ‘Nimmo’ was released in 1984. While the rest of the Panth was being besieged by the Indian Armed Forces, hundreds of youths had been killed, and thousands imprisoned due to the Dharam Yudh Morcha, Darshan Singh Ragi was busy acting in a ‘Bollywood’ type movie in which he praises Dusht Daman as the previous incarnation of Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

Filmed in the scenic foothills on the way to Hemkunt Sahib, the Ragi plays the part of a Sikh parcharik who introduces the trip to Sri Hemkunt Sahib by stating:

“ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਪਿਆਰੀ ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤ ਜੀ…ਭਾਗਾਂ ਵਲੇ ਹੋ ! ਅੱਜ ਅਸੀਂ ਮਹਾਨ ਸਪੱਸਵੀ ਦੁਸਟ ਦਮਨ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਤਪ ਅਸਥਾਨ ਹੇਮਕੁੰਟ ਦੇ ਦਰਸ਼ਨਾ ਲਈ ਜਾ ਰਹੇ ਹਾਂ…”

He then narrates the story stating Guru Teg Bahdur Sahib in his previous life was also a tapasvi, and he was being disturbed by the Rakshahs (demons) that were looking for Durga Devi. Ragi Darshan Singh then states “at that time Guru Gobind Singh appeared as Dusht Daman and eliminated the Rakshahs (demons).”

The Ragi then is shown leading his yatrees to Sri Hemkunt Sahib, while continuously waving his arms and singing the last verses of Charitropakhyaan known as Chaupai Sahib and hiking to the Gurdwara Sahib and the Sarovar.

Compare the above scene to the irrational anti-Dasam Bani outbursts by Ragi from the stages of Gurdwara Rakabganj Sahib in January 2008. One wonders if he is really a Panthic parcharik, a stage actor, or a politician.

True Panthic parchariks do not star in Bollywood movies or rub shoulders with the corrupt and crooked politicians. Take a look at this Ragi’s road trip from Bollywood to taking on the Patna Sahib Takht.

Posing for a publicity shot. Bollywood Actor or Ragi ?

Ragi Darshan Singh with Panthic-Dusht Surjit Barnala and a young Giani Kewal Singh

Ragi with Shshil Muni : Backroom deals with Indian Goverment liaisons

Ragi and Puran Singh : A Jathedari of convenience

Blessings from one of his Delhi masters - Avtar Hitt

Another of his Delhi masters, Buta Singh, who was ex-communicated from the Panth in the 1980s

Is Ragi nothing more than a stage actor? If paid in kind, he can sing praises of Dusht Daman, and the Jajharoos. Now that his masters have changed - so has his message and tone.

We can not blame just Giani Iqbal Singh, but the Ragi himself, for undermining, the very concept of Miri-Piri that he purported to have stood for, when he was the Jathedar of the Takht Sahib.

With what face can those who have come out in support of this mischievous Ragi call themselves supporters of Sri Akal Takht Sahib? The same people openly violate HukamNamas from Akal Takht Sahib but for publicity stunts claim to be supporters of Akal Takht Sahib. Those who undermine it have been historically cast away and discarded. This authority can not be challenged by anyone; whether it is Ambala, Bhasuaria, Kala-Afghana, or the Ragi himself. The same will happen to those who assist and sympathize with such heretics and mischiefs.

Sikh Sangat should be wary of efforts of those like Prof. Darshan Singh who claim to be sympathizers of Akal Takht Sahib but in reality they want to destroy the very basis of the Sikh faith. Their fight is not with Takat Sri Patna Sahib, for the Takht’s actions are not even the issue, the fight is really against anyone who stands for the propagation of the Khalsa Panth. Those who have shamefully aligned with the Ragi should question themselves whether by countering the ‘mandate’ of Takht Sri Patna Sahib they are working to preserve the status of Akal Takht Sahib or trying to hide the mistakes committed by the Ragi.

[jassa]

great post !!!

[Inder Singh]

great post !!!

Jassa singh ji

Waheguru ji ki fateh

I got your message.I will be out for three days.then i will get myself enrolled there.

We have to take it at personal level to save sikh panth of Sahib Guru Gobind singh ji with his kirpa from these goonda elements of missionary kala afghana and datshan lal.

Keep up your efforts and Guru will grant his grace to khalsa.

[Nirvair S Khalsa]

(Good posts made by Gursikhs like "Inder Singh" Jee and others before).

Regardless of whatever the character or controversial history may be of Jathedhaar Iqbal Singh, his move to excommunicate the Panth gidhaar and agent of the anti-Panthic groups should be commended.

[N30S1NGH]

As much i like to see darshan singh to be excommunciate from the panth...last thing i would do is consider what panthic.org had to say as reliable...they do photo guerilla journalism which is hardly consider as reliable source in the journalism.

eg- "Ragi with Shshil Muni : Backroom deals with Indian Goverment liaisons"

Now you may call this nit-picking but shshil muni is famous jain preacher/saint, he has nothing to do with indian government or sarkar.

We should be very careful when we read stuff from panthic.org, in the past articles they have proven, they are defending truth by false bias reports/guerilla photo journalism.

All they have to offer is an pictorial journalism and take them out of context and push that as credible source.

EG-

1. I just happen to be walking on a side walk, i get encounter with prostitute, she asks for direction, i treat her as human being and stand still for a moment give her an direction, here comes an arrogrant sevadar of panthic police takes my picture, post it next day in his "panthic" report with full blast mirch masala, oh look at this preacher, makin deal with prostitute..MAHA MANMAT!!!!!!!

2. I just happen to be walking around in streets of india, this rss guy who is very well known in public, ask me for 50 rupee change, i give him change thinking as a favor to an human being instead of looking at his political stance, around this exchange, comes an another arrogrant panthic sevadar of panthic police takes my picture against, post it next day in his "panthic report with full full blast mirch masala, oh look at him, supporting rss fiancially.. MAHA MANMAT.

3. I go to an samagam rehensbhai walking towards darbar, singhani unintentionally drops an receipt who appears as a note, i picked it up thinking its important to give her the receipt back, i say excuse me ji, you dropped this, gave her receipt which appears to be an note, during this exchange, some arrogrant panthic sevadar of panthic police takes a picture during this exchange, post in his "panthic report" with full blast mirch masala /taken fully out of context, oh look at him, harrasing an singhani in rehensbhai giving her note asking her for date. MAHA MANMAT, Obviously when my wife finds out, she picks up an soti and sort me out..lol..

sorry for going off-topic.. just trying to prove a point....

[ghorandhar]

Interesting source Inder Singh veer jee. Is this not the same people who condemn Taksal and sant samaj for being RSS? Let see if you will also support action be taken against such groups. :D or will be see the normal double standards by you. Since you have taken it upon yourself to personaly save the panth, I hope you will also save the panth from jathabandis which are out to destroy Sikhi (such as the ones mentioned above). Im afraid I will have to include Iqbal Singh in that category.

Its seems we can ignore procedures because we feel like. I'm against such actions just like im against Prof Darshan Singh jees views on the dasam granth.

Veer Namstang jee you make some good points. I think Prof Darshan Singh jees opinions are the problem and not who he is seen with in photos. One of the pictures are in Guru maharaj hazori and even that is being disputed as being wrong. Another is with former head granthi of darbar sahib and Jathedahr of Akal Takhat (Puran Singh), end of the day he was the head granthi and doing seva at darbar sahib, what was he supposed to do in panthic meetings when the head granthi is present, hide from him? And the bollywood thing I find funny, esp since he now questions the dasam granth. however, if someone other than Prof Darshan Singh was in that video, we would be praising them.

[Budda Dal]

Those who question bani have hideous missions.

We need to unite and fight against naatics and likes of sauda baba.

[proactive]

Inder Singh,

It's not very often I agree with N30 Singh but I do in this case! There is nothing in your post or article from Panthic.org which has any substance. Photos without any regard for context, assumptions and unfounded accusations which would shame any rag from the gutter press. Unfortunately this is the state we Sikhs are in now. We disregard anything anyone may have done as long as they follow our own narrow viewpoint. I don't regard Darshan Singh as worthy of having been Akal Takht Jathedar but then again apart from Bhai Gurdev Singh, none of the Jathedars even the ones appointed by the Kharkoos (Bhai Jasbir Singh of DDT) amounted to much. But if a person has views which are controversial then he needs to be debated with in a rational manner. Apart from a debate during Mahant times as well as one hosted by a dodgy Baba, Virsa Singh there hasn't been a rational debate about Dasam Granth. The Akal Takht Jathedar should have hosted a debate and invited all the pro and against groups and then settled the issue there and then. After an resolution had been reached (not, by illiterate Jathedars and Babas who would come up with any decision that their political masters want) then any person who then casts doubt on, or if the resolution goes the other way, accepts Dasam Granth as on a par with Guru Granth Sahib can be called to account. Until then both sides will come up with Kala Afghana books and character assassination pieces such as your post and panthic.org article.

[Inder Singh]

As much i like to see darshan singh to be excommunciate from the panth...last thing i would do is consider what panthic.org had to say as reliable...they do photo guerilla journalism which is hardly consider as reliable source in the journalism.

eg- "Ragi with Shshil Muni : Backroom deals with Indian Goverment liaisons"

Now you may call this nit-picking but shshil muni is famous jain preacher/saint, he has nothing to do with indian government or sarkar.

We should be very careful when we read stuff from panthic.org, in the past articles they have proven, they are defending truth by false bias reports/guerilla photo journalism.

All they have to offer is an pictorial journalism and take them out of context and push that as credible source.

EG-

1. I just happen to be walking on a side walk, i get encounter with prostitute, she asks for direction, i treat her as human being and stand still for a moment give her an direction, here comes an arrogrant sevadar of panthic police takes my picture, post it next day in his "panthic" report with full blast mirch masala, oh look at this preacher, makin deal with prostitute..MAHA MANMAT!!!!!!!

2. I just happen to be walking around in streets of india, this rss guy who is very well known in public, ask me for 50 rupee change, i give him change thinking as a favor to an human being instead of looking at his political stance, around this exchange, comes an another arrogrant panthic sevadar of panthic police takes my picture against, post it next day in his "panthic report with full full blast mirch masala, oh look at him, supporting rss fiancially.. MAHA MANMAT.

3. I go to an samagam rehensbhai walking towards darbar, singhani unintentionally drops an receipt who appears as a note, i picked it up thinking its important to give her the receipt back, i say excuse me ji, you dropped this, gave her receipt which appears to be an note, during this exchange, some arrogrant panthic sevadar of panthic police takes a picture during this exchange, post in his "panthic report" with full blast mirch masala /taken fully out of context, oh look at him, harrasing an singhani in rehensbhai giving her note asking her for date. MAHA MANMAT, Obviously when my wife finds out, she picks up an soti and sort me out..lol..

sorry for going off-topic.. just trying to prove a point....

Jain muni was an emissary of Rajiv Gandhi holdingh secret talks with Ragin 1986.This is the yaer when sikhs were being killed.This comes in Open secret book.

Interesting source Inder Singh veer jee. Is this not the same people who condemn Taksal and sant samaj for being RSS? Let see if you will also support action be taken against such groups. :D or will be see the normal double standards by you. Since you have taken it upon yourself to personaly save the panth, I hope you will also save the panth from jathabandis which are out to destroy Sikhi (such as the ones mentioned above). Im afraid I will have to include Iqbal Singh in that category.

Its seems we can ignore procedures because we feel like. I'm against such actions just like im against Prof Darshan Singh jees views on the dasam granth.

Veer Namstang jee you make some good points. I think Prof Darshan Singh jees opinions are the problem and not who he is seen with in photos. One of the pictures are in Guru maharaj hazori and even that is being disputed as being wrong. Another is with former head granthi of darbar sahib and Jathedahr of Akal Takhat (Puran Singh), end of the day he was the head granthi and doing seva at darbar sahib, what was he supposed to do in panthic meetings when the head granthi is present, hide from him? And the bollywood thing I find funny, esp since he now questions the dasam granth. however, if someone other than Prof Darshan Singh was in that video, we would be praising them.

Ghorandhar

The topic is Darshan singh 's past activites and life style designed to earn money.He is a bascialy not a panth dardi.

Stick to the.Your posts are crookedly designed to save anti panthic people in an indirect style.If you are with panth then why you have to write this nonsense.

Individuals have to take care of panth against traitors you support.

Inder Singh,

It's not very often I agree with N30 Singh but I do in this case! There is nothing in your post or article from Panthic.org which has any substance. Photos without any regard for context, assumptions and unfounded accusations which would shame any rag from the gutter press. Unfortunately this is the state we Sikhs are in now. We disregard anything anyone may have done as long as they follow our own narrow viewpoint. I don't regard Darshan Singh as worthy of having been Akal Takht Jathedar but then again apart from Bhai Gurdev Singh, none of the Jathedars even the ones appointed by the Kharkoos (Bhai Jasbir Singh of DDT) amounted to much. But if a person has views which are controversial then he needs to be debated with in a rational manner. Apart from a debate during Mahant times as well as one hosted by a dodgy Baba, Virsa Singh there hasn't been a rational debate about Dasam Granth. The Akal Takht Jathedar should have hosted a debate and invited all the pro and against groups and then settled the issue there and then. After an resolution had been reached (not, by illiterate Jathedars and Babas who would come up with any decision that their political masters want) then any person who then casts doubt on, or if the resolution goes the other way, accepts Dasam Granth as on a par with Guru Granth Sahib can be called to account. Until then both sides will come up with Kala Afghana books and character assassination pieces such as your post and panthic.org article.

All photos have backgrounds.Do not twist it into issue of SGGS and Dasam Granth being equated.That is the fear phobia desined by nindaks of panth.Stop that nonsense as that is your gimmick to divert the issue.

[ghorandhar]

Veer Inder Singh jee, my first paragraph was regarding your source and other jhatas which they have exposed, will you also speak against those traitors (as you put it) as your source has previously done? My third paragraph was about the context which I feel the photos could be percieved as. So I am sticking to the topic. You need to calm down for 5 mins and read my post again. I do not argee with Prof Darshan Singh jees interpretation of the Dasam granth, however I also dont agree with taking these pictures out of context. Prof Darshan Singh could be held liable for his words on the Dasam granth, not sitting with a former head granthi, or sitting in the hazoori of Guru maharaj. So how am I indirectly trying to Save Prof Darshan Singh jee when I said im against Prof Darshan Singh jees views on the Dasam granth? please enlighten me. The problem is that when we dont agree with someone on one issue, we try to discredit him in everyway possible, even it makes us look foolish (like those pictures being posted).

Veer jee if you want to take care of the panth, then the correct procedures should be used. I sent you the links where both Singh Sahib Joginder Singh Vendanti and Balwant Singh Nandgarh have questioned the authority of Iqbal SIngh being able to excommunicate. tu tu maih maih is not taking care of the panth. These pictures are not taking care of the panth, its summarised by Veer proactive jee very well.

Veer Proactive jee I agree with your views, the approach you mention should have been taken, veechar should have taken place, the outcome no one should fear.