Is Khalistan Possible.

[virk30]

biggest concerns if we got khalistan today

1. how would the economy survive, majority of sikhs depend on farming and farming is becoming less and less profitable

2.. Drug addictions in punjab

3. Fact everyone wants to leave and go to the west

4. Corruption

[mann_kaum_layee_qurbaan]

biggest concerns if we got khalistan today

1. how would the economy survive, majority of sikhs depend on farming and farming is becoming less and less profitable

2.. Drug addictions in punjab

3. Fact everyone wants to leave and go to the west

4. Corruption

raise the price of all the crops that sikh farmers sell to the government and all of a sudden farming is profitable.

punjab contributed the most to the national pool of wheat. the issue is that farmers complain about low prices for their crops, the MSP, or Minimum Support Price.

If India lost the 60% or so of wheat punjab supplies to india, you have an IT industry with starving workers.

it's not called the "breadbasket of india" for no reason.

once a drug addict, always a drug addict? so sikhi turned the likes of sajjan thug into noble men, but sikhi can't turn drug addicts?

people want to go to the west for money right? its not for women and drugs. not everybody in punjab wants to go to the west, thsoe that do, many are big families who have one acre of land and 5-6 brothers...you do the math.

corruption. haha, if corruption is a reason against khalistan, then india should have ceased to exist the year after 1947.

the main reason khalistan shouldn't exist is because it would hurt the ego of hardcore bharatis who think they are invincible and hindustan is some unmatched goliath. the fcat is nations come and go. india was formed in 1947. the sikhs had an empire for 40 odd years and it was gone like a dream.

anything is possible. hindustan isn't God, its not eternal. borders change all the time. china can come tomorrow and alter india's boundaries in a day.

look at india's rhetoric against pakistan and against china. they know they can take pakistan on any day and talk tough with them, however china, who controls a nice chunk of indian territory doesn't get the harsh words but hindu chini bhai bhai.

think.

peace.

[apne]

If USA invades Iran then China is going to invade and occupy Taiwan. USA won't be able to stop China because of it being involved in Iran, Iraq and afghanistan simultaneously. Even if USA sends forces to Taiwan, public pressure in US would be against war against China in Taiwan, USA would consider it's own interest first and quit and leave Taiwan in a ditch, whose security is guarranteed by USA. Eu would be forced to remain neutral because of Russia. Then after getting Taiwan, China will come for India. China currently has 1200 nuclear warheads pointed towards Taiwan, it will move them towards India. The 20 Army regiments stationed by China along Sino-Taiwan border will be moved towards Sino-Indian border. China has incredible infrastructure along Sino-Indo border. Indian infrastructure on Sino-Indo side is like of middle ages as compared to Chinese.

These observations was made by a key Army observer for Asian affairs of India.

[xHarinder_singh]

If USA invades Iran then China is going to invade and occupy Taiwan. USA won't be able to stop China because of it being involved in Iran, Iraq and afghanistan simultaneously. Even if USA sends forces to Taiwan, public pressure in US would be against war against China in Taiwan, USA would consider it's own interest first and quit and leave Taiwan in a ditch, whose security is guarranteed by USA. Eu would be forced to remain neutral because of Russia. Then after getting Taiwan, China will come for India. China currently has 1200 nuclear warheads pointed towards Taiwan, it will move them towards India. The 20 Army regiments stationed by China along Sino-Taiwan border will be moved towards Sino-Indian border. China has incredible infrastructure along Sino-Indo border. Indian infrastructure on Sino-Indo side is like of middle ages as compared to Chinese.

These observations was made by a key Army observer for Asian affairs of India.

Oil is the blood of a modern economy. I think we have hit peak oil last year, so from now onwards, supply will decrease and demand will increase and India and China are going to enter in a rat race for the oil and this will lead china to attack india directly or indirectly. Naxalites are getting very powerful day by day and there is no doubt that they are get backing from China. Nepal has also come under the control of maosts and I feel in the future, India is at a risk from 3 sides, nepal, china and pakistan.

[apne]

Nepal cannot go against India. All India needs is a blockade, Nepal is fully dependant on India. Pakistan cannot challenge or face India. And it itself is headed for disaster. It is China which will cause problems. Also the maoists or naxalites are promoted by politicians and corrupt officials. They can be wiped out in less then a month, if govt wanted to. Oil prices have increased because of trading in oil, if trading at world stock markets stops, prices of oil will automatically go down.

[immortalshaheed]

The idea of khalistan is basically "raj karega khalsa", the problem is people forget what this means. Khalsa means pure, therefore until we are all pure we will not get khalistan!!!

[KhaLSa_PuNJaB]

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa ,Waheguru ji Ki Fateh.....

Tusi Sab te mere veer Apni Identity Nu chad India nu le k beh gye.....Ki Pta Kal Ki hna. Veero.

bt i believe tht..

" Koi Kisi Ko Raaj Na De hai,Jo Le Hai Nijj Bal Se Le Hai"

fir ki hya je sadi ginti ghat gai..par swa lakh naal ik KHALSA hi lrr jnda.te rahi gall. Raaj len di ehe AKALPURKH ne jdo kirpa kar diti te odo mil jau.....Jaldi hi sma aauga bai..Haq Mang k nai Kho k laye jaande ne Singho.Ehe yaad Rkhyo..

Kaun Mangeya kise Nu Raaj Dinde Raaj Bnde ne TEGA di Dhaar Ute........

[immortalshaheed]

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa ,Waheguru ji Ki Fateh.....

Tusi Sab te mere veer Apni Identity Nu chad India nu le k beh gye.....Ki Pta Kal Ki hna. Veero.

bt i believe tht..

" Koi Kisi Ko Raaj Na De hai,Jo Le Hai Nijj Bal Se Le Hai"

fir ki hya je sadi ginti ghat gai..par swa lakh naal ik KHALSA hi lrr jnda.te rahi gall. Raaj len di ehe AKALPURKH ne jdo kirpa kar diti te odo mil jau.....Jaldi hi sma aauga bai..Haq Mang k nai Kho k laye jaande ne Singho.Ehe yaad Rkhyo..

Kaun Mangeya kise Nu Raaj Dinde Raaj Bnde ne TEGA di Dhaar Ute........

veer ji, forum de vich english bol, mehe punjabi samajda, but it gets confusing to read with english alphabet. :D :D

[ssfguy2]

Harinder veer, i don't understand how you say what you say. I hope you are not watching those alien or hidden theories on india tv or ibn7. lol A few days ago they showed a programme saying world will end in 2012, as per some ancient time clock theory.lol or are you waiting for the magntic theory of sun lol ji

My pyare veer, I DONT watch TV. I consider it to be a kurehit to watch TV. But yes, on the interet, I have heard these stories about world ending in 2012. I dont really believe in such stories.

And what I have written is not based on these stories. All this science, industrial revolution is nuthing but MAYA, its an illusion and its going to end and we will be back to horses, bullock carts, rural life. But the problem is that before we come back to the rural world, more than 1/6th of population has to die. Start prepareing for a life without oil and electricity.

XHarinder Ji,

This is off the topic but MAYA concept is hindu philosphy

According to hindu Vedant, it emphasizes that the world is false, a myth (Maya). It is an illusion (Maya) of fallacy it is infered from here that what we see is different than what reality is. To make the point across here is an example:

One misapprehends a hare with horns when seen from a distance, which infact are not there. One sees mirage in a desert that gives an impression of prsence of water which actually is not there. A rope appears like a snake in the darkness of night, it in not a snake.

Similarly the world too is a trick (Maya) or a doubt. It is not here in relaity but appears to be there. Such is the realtionship of Brahm and a human being, as that of darness and rope. The esixtence of rope is confirmed but not tht of a snake.

The doubt about the prsence of a snake emerges from the presence of a rope. Similarly the existence of the world depends upon the existence of Brahm. It is nothing in itself.

And more confusin views have been propagated by Vedant in respect of existence of the worldd. Afte deliberating on Brahm, world and maya, we come to a conclusion tht we can neither call the world true (reality) nor false, or even reality-false. Like maya (mammon) it is describable. Finally the world has been called MAYA in hinduism.

GURMAT does not hold the Universe as a trick (Maya) or something doubtful. Unlike Vedant it does not consider it something false or unreal. This universe has been created by the True Lord Himeslf. He himself resides in it. Therefore, the world is REAL & TRUE. On the other hand , the visible Universe keeps experiencing changes all the time. The root and conscious objects operate and exist under these rules only. The old is vanquishing while the new are taking their place. In order to bring home the ever changing/altering nature of the Univers, the fact that all that has been produced in the world will end and by, GURMAT has also called the universe a mountain of smoke or a dream.

Back to the MAKING OF KHALIATAN this was discussed on another post, so look it up. Khalsa is a Universal and Khalsa Raj will be universal. When an indivual becomes Khalsa power of ONE then this ONE planet is Khalsa Raj. Think of it as a Pind as mentioned by another Singh. Don't limit Khalistan to Punjab only. Also read the sticky's.

Guru Fateh Jio.

[Guest shastr]

there is only 1 way to get khalistan, and that is with guru ji's kirpa.

"panth chalai tab jagat main, jab tum karo sahaye"

but baba ji says its not gonna be the khalistan most people have in mind......