Clockwise or Counter clockwise in marriage

[Summeet Kaur]

Vaaheguroo jee ka khalsa..vaaheguroo jee kee fateh!

Are we to go clockwise or counter clockwise during parkarama..more so on our wedding day??

What is the significance of each..what do the old rehitnamas say..what does bani say..what is the right way? What was done in the past, what do we do now??

Appreciate it

subh kudrat...

[Balwinder Singh]

I never thought abt it...but on wedding it is supposed to be in clockwise direction..as far as I remember.

[GABROO KHALISTAN DAH]

some1 give reason also plz

[Gupt daasan daas]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

The Granthi recites the first verse of the Lava and the couple are to listen to it whilst remaining seated. After completing the verse, the Granthi Singh is to place the Rumala Sahib back over Guru Sahib. The Ragee Singh is to perform Kirtan of the first Lav and the couple are to slowly proceed around Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji (keeping Guru Sahib to their right-hand side), after which they are to bow to Guru Sahib and be seated. The bride is to walk by herself, around Guru Sahib, without any assistance. Nobody is to stand whilst this is occurring. The bride is not to cover her face at any point.

The Granthi Singh is then to recite the second Lav and the Ragees are then to sing the second Lav in the same manner as the first. This is to be repeated for the third and fourth Lavs. After the recital of each Lav it is essential that the Granthi Singh replace the Rumala back over Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.

If Ragee Singhs cannot be found, then the Granthi Singh is to recite each Lav, place the Rumala Sahib over Guru Sahib and then recite "Satnam, Vaheguru" whilst the couple proceed around Guru Sahib. The four Lavs are to be performed in this manner.

Whilst the couple are proceeding around Guru Sahib, the Granthi Singh is not to get up and leave the throne of Guru Sahib upon which he is doing seva. Some unintelligent/superstitious people think by the Granthi Singh remaining to stay

sitting on the throne, he some how also ‘weds’ the bride. The Granthi Singh is the Minister of Guru Sahib, the bride cannot become married to him as her hand was already asked for marriage by the bridegroom and also prior to t

he Lavs she held the ‘Pula’ ( tassel) of the bridegroom so she is committed to marrying him.

The couple must proceed around Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Many remain seated and perform the Anand Karaj in this way, this is against Gurmat and should never be done.

crn Amol prdCnw krn kY ]

"Those feet that do Parkarma (circumambulations in a clockwise direction)

of Guru Sahib ji are priceless."

(Kabit Svaye Bhai Gurdas ji p.17)

By proceeding around Satguru ji, this signifies the sacrificing of ones mind, body and wealth. The circumambulating is a mark of respect signifying that Guru Sahib is greater than ourselves. The couple are begging for protection and assistance and signifying that they are the servants of Guru Sahib. If Parkarma are not performed during the time of happiness then when will it ever done? Parkarma are not to be performed around a fire, or any god, goddesses, persons, idols etc.

After the Lavs, whilst the Ragees are singing Shabads, the Granthi Singh is to mentally recite the 40 verses of Anand Sahib whilst sitting in the presence of Guru Sahib (upon Guru ji’s throne). If there are no Ragee Singhs then the Anand Sahib is to be recited out aloud to the sangat. Teachings are to be given to the couple (about how they should proceed in their lives as a married couple, which are all in line with Gurmat). If a person is remarrying, the exact ceremony is still to be performed including Lav’s around Sri Guru Granth Sahib. A list of relatives is not to be read out. An Ardas is to be performed and a Hukamnama read, then Karah Parshad is to be distributed afterwards.

On this occasion, the couple is to listen carefully to the gurmat teachings given to them for successful guidance in both worldly and spiritual realms. Resourceful things that should be done by the couple: practice of good actions, practising religion, taking good vows, performing meditation etc. Only good actions that will please Satguru are to be enacted – by the doing of which our lives will become blis

sful. Here is a more detailed account of what can be told to the couple:

1. Actions

m: 4 ]

gur siqgur kw jo isKu AKwey su Blky auiT hir nwmu iDAwvY ]

"FOURTH SAROOP (FORM): One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, should rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name."

(SGGSJ Ang 305)

The whole of this Shabad is to be read out.

kyvl krm Brm sy cInhu Drm krm Anurwgo ]

sMgRh kro sdw ismrn ko prm pwp qij Bwgo ]

"Only actions of religion are to be undertaken and those actions which put us into

confusion and condemnation from God are to be refrained from. Collect the goodness by doing simran (meditation) at all times, run away from sinful actions, then your mind will stop from becoming sinful."

(Sri Dasam Granth Ang 710)

gurmuiK nwmu dwnu iesnwnu ]

"The Gurmukh is blessed with the Naam/ Shabad, charity and purification."

(SGGSJ Ang 942)

All your sins are washed away by meditating. And, through giving charitable

donations, your hard work bears fruit.

Gwil Kwie ikCu hQhu dyie ] nwnk rwhu pCwxih syie ]

"One who works for what he eats, and gives some of what he has to charity

Guru ji says , he realises the true path."

(SGGSJ Ang 1245)

One tenth of your time and earnings should be given to the preaching of Sikhi, Guru’s Langar and all types of charity connected to the Guru’s House. In this way, your various hopes in life will be realised. On the other hand if nothing is given to charitable purposes then:

jo bwby ky dwm n dY hY ] iqn qy gih bwbr ky lY hY ]

"Those who do not give money to the house of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji (charity) they will have their money taken by thieves or in fines to the government."

(Sri Dasam Granth Ang 71)

Not giving money for charitable purposes is on a par with being prosecuted,

stealing, becoming diseased and success will not last. Therefore it is essential to donate, but it is to be given out of a honest living.

kbIr jw Gr

swD n syvIAih hir kI syvw nwih ]

qy Gr mrht swrKy BUq bsih iqn mwih ] 192 ]

"Kabeer Ji says, those houses in which neither the Holy nor the Lord are served

those houses are like cremation grounds; demons dwell within them."

(SGGSJ Ang 1374)

By having Ishnaan, the body is cleansed and laziness is removed.

2. Religion

There are two types of religion. Firstly, common religious practice which is

universal for all i.e. remembering God, earning a honest living and doing seva of mankind. Secondly, are individual religions such as that of Hinduism, Islam, Christianity etc. Gursikhs also have their own religion – by taking Amrit from Panj Pyare and keeping the discipline of the 5 Kakkaars, abstaining from the four

cardinal sins, meditating on Naam and Gurbani and seeing only Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as their Guru. This is the religion of Gursikhs, which is more important to them than their lives, for example Bhai Mati Das ji, Bhai Dyal Das ji, Bhai Mani Singh ji, Bhai Taru Singh ji and many others have become martyrs but they did not compromise their faith.

3. Vows and regular practices

Some people go to places of pilgrimage and make vows for giving up something and make it a regular habit. One may say that from today I will not eat bananas, another may say that for the next six months I will not wear shoes etc. Gursikhs should make vows and regular practices, but of the following kind:

mwrU mhlw 5 Gru 4 AstpdIAw

< siqgur pRswid

cwdnw cWdnu AWgin pRB jIau AMqir cwdnw ]1]

AwrwDnw ArwDnu nIkw hir hir nwmu ArwDnw ]2]

iqAwgnw iqAwgnu nIkw kwmu kRoDu loBu iqAwgnw ]3]

mwgnw mwgnu nIkw hir jsu gur qy mwgnw ]4]

jwgnw jwgnu nIkw hir kIrqn mih jwgnw ]5]

lwgnw lwgnu nIkw gur crxNI mnu lwgnw ]6]

ieh ibiD iqsih prwpqy jw kY msqik Bwgnw ]7]

khu nwnk iqsu sBu ikCu nIkw jo pRB kI srnwgnw ]8]1]4]

"MAAROO, FIFTH SAROOP (FORM), FOURTH HOUSE, ASHTAPADEES:

ONE UNIVERSAL CREATOR GOD. BY THE GRACE OF THE TRUE GURU:

Out of all the lights w

hich is the best light - in the courtyard of the mind? The light of the knowledge of God is supreme. || 1 || Meditation, meditation – which is the sublime meditation? Sublime is the meditation on the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. || 2 || Renunciation, renunciation – which is noble renunciation? Noble is the renunciation of <admin-profanity filter activated> desire, anger and greed. || 3 || Begging, begging – what is noble begging? It is noble to beg for the action to praise the Lord, from the Guru. || 4 || Awakening, awakening – which is the supreme awakening? The supreme awakening is to sing the Lord’s praises. || 5 || Attachment, attachment – which is the sublime attachment? Sublime is the attachment of the mind to the Guru's Feet. || 6 || He alone is blessed with this way of life, upon whose forehead such destiny is recorded. || 7 || Guru Ji says, everything is sublime and noble, for one who enters the Sanctuary of God. || 8 || 1 || 4 ||." (SGGSJ Ang 1018)

naumI nymu scu jy krY ] kwm kRoDu iqRsnw aucrY]

"On the ninth day of the month, make a vow to speak the Truth, and your <admin-profanity filter activated> desire, anger and desire shall be eaten up." (SGGSJ Ang 1245)

Speaking the truth and refraining from lying should be considered as a vow. Gursikhs are to make a routine of reading as much Gurbani as is possible, waking up in the ambrosial hours, doing Naam Simran, being charitable, performing Ishnaan of the body and soul, ridding themselves of vices and remain within the moral constraints laid by Gurmat.

4. Fasts

Some fast according to movements of the moon, others on the birthdays of Krishan and Ram, others on the twelfth or fourteenth day of a lunar fortnight, some on a full moon, some on Sangrand and others on Tuesday’s. Muslims fast over Ramadan. In Gurmat keeping any of these fas

ts is prohibited, and only the following ‘fasts’ are permitted:

QoVw svxw Kwvxw QoVw bolx gurmiq pwey [

"Sleeping little, eating little and speaking little is the way of enshrining Gurmat."

(Bhai Gurdas ji, //. 28, Pauri 15)

Alp Ahwr sulp sI inMdRw dXw iCmw qn pRIiq ]

"Eating and sleeping little, helping the needy, forgiving mistakes of others,

being compassionate are all acts of a Sikh."

(Dasam Granth Ang 709)

EnI dunIAw qoVy bMDnw AMnu pwxNI QoVw KwieAw ]

"They break away from the bonds with the world, and eat little food

and drink little water."

(SGGSJ Ang 467)

(a) Male fast/abstinence: male youth are to make a habit of,

eykw nwrI jqI hoey pr nwrI DI BYx vKwxY ]

"Be faithful to your one wife, see others as your daughters and sisters, (for women you must be faithful to one husband and see others as your sons and brothers)."

(//. 6, Pauri 8, Bhai Gurdas ji)

dyK prweIAW cMgIAW mwvW BYxW DIAW jwxY ]

"Men should look at the opposite sex as mothers, sisters and daughters,

(women should look at the opposite sex as fathers, brothers and sons)."

(//. 29, Pauri 11, Bhai Gurdas ji)

ho pr Dn pwhn qu`il iqRXw pr mwq hmwrY ]

"The wealth of another is like a stone to us, thus is of no avail.

Other women are like our mothers."

(Dasam Granth, Ang 842)

pr iqRA rUpu n pyKY nyqR ]

" Do not gaze upon anothers wife, in a sinful way ."

(SGGSJ Ang 274)

jYsw sMgu ibsIAr isau hY ry qYso hI iehu pr igRhu]

" Like the companionship of a poisonous snake, so is the desire for another's spouse, as the snake will poison/bite you, causing harm, in the same way having sex with another outside of marriage will cause much harm to you."

(SGGSJ Ang 403)

These teachings are illustrated by the story of Bhai Sant Ram ji, a Sikh from the time of the fifth Guru:

svw gilst isr aUiTE qau nw kbUlI nwr ]

"The tenth Guru Sahib is saying that in the times of the fifth Guru Sahib there was a S

ikh called Sant Ram, whom worked as a bodyguard for the Emperor Jahangir. Jahangir’s daughter became attracted to this Sikh and wanted to marry him, so Jahangir told the Sikh to convert to Islam, for the marriage to go ahead. The Sikh refused and was decapitated. Jahangir then took the Sikh’s head on a platter to his daughter. His daughter edged forward to touch the face of the Sikh and his head floated a few inches away, thus not even accepting her in death."

(Dasam Granth)

(B) Female fast/abstinence:

ibnu ipr purKu n jwxeI scy gur kY hyiq ipAwir ]6]

"Other than her husband, she knows no man. She enshrines love for the True Guru,

and sees all others (men aswell) as the wives of God."

(SGGSJ Ang 54)

Twkuru eyku sbweI nwir ]

"There is one Husband Lord, and all are His brides."

(SGGSJ Ang 933)

khu nwnk ijin ipRau prmysru kir jwinAw ] DMnu sqI drgh prvwinAw ]

"Guru Ji says, she who looks upon the Husband as the Lord, is blessed and has firm faith; great are those wives and they are received with honour in the Court of the

Lord."(SGGSJ Ang 185)

Mai Sevan, Bibi Rajni, Mai Bhag Kaur and others stories illustrate this. At the time of holding the ‘pula’ the bride is promising to:

jy kru ghih ipAwrVy quDu n Cofw mUil ]

"Beloved husband if you take my hand; I shall never forsake You."

(SGGSJ Ang 322)

Husband – if you are holding my hand in marriage then I will not leave your side until the day I die.

The bridegroom promises to:

hir Cofin sy durjnw pVih dojk kY sUil ] 2 ]

"Just like manmukhs leave the Lord and go to hell. If I leave you I will go to hell too."

(SGGSJ Ang 322)

In the same way that scoundrels forget the Lord and go to hells – in the same way if I leave your innocent side then I will suffer the pain of many hells.

5. Meditation/Worship

>koaU buqwn kO pUjq hY psu koaU imRqwn kO pUjn DwieE ]

kUr ikRAw auriJE sB hI jgu sRI Bgvwn ko Bydu n pwieE ]

"Some worship idols and some worship the dead. The world is entangled in

false actions with no one realising the true Lord."

(Dasam Granth Ang 15)

In the Hindu religion, the worship of statues was started by Narad ji.

ihMdU mUly BUly AKutI jWhI ] nwrid kihAw is pUj krWhI ]

"The Hindus have forgotten the Primal Lord; they are going the wrong way.

They pray according to the teachings of Narad Ji."

(SGGSJ Ang 556)

Muslims also worship a stone in Mecca. In the same way if people pray to

demi-gods and goddesses nothing is gained.

dyvI dyvw pUjIAY BweI ikAw mwgau ikAw dyih ]

"Why worship gods and goddesses, O Siblings of Destiny? What can we ask of them? What can they give us?"

(SGGSJ Ang 637)

Gursikhs have permission to:

pUjhu rwmu eyku hI dyvw ] swcw nwvxu gur kI syvw ]

"Worship the One Divine Lord. The true cleansing bath, is service (seva) of the Guru."

(SGGSJ Ang 484)

pUjw kIcY nwmu iDwAeIAY ibnu nwvY pUj n hoie ]

"Perform worship and adoration by meditating on the Naam, the Name of the Lord;

without the Name, there is no worship and adoration."

(SGGSJ Ang 489)

siqguru pUjau sdw sdw mnwvau ] AYsI syv drgh suKu pwvau ]3]

" Worship the True Guru at all times, and make them happy. By such service, I find peace in the Court of the Lord."

(SGGSJ Ang 1158)

jwgq joq jpY insbwsur eyk ibnw mn nYk n AwnY ]

pUrn pRym pRqIq sjY bRq gor mVI mt BUl n mwnY ]

"Praying to God - day and night, not thinking of any other, enshrining pure love and faith. Fasting and praying to tombstones/graves are not to be adhered to even by mistake." In Gurmat, the Timeless One is worshiped, discourse is on the Shabad (i.e. always thinking of or remembering Gurbani) and the vision is of the Khalsa. The bride and groom should have unbounded love and harmony so that they will achieve worldly and spiritual success. A

union based simply on worldly concerns cannot really be called a true union.

Dn ipru eyih n AwKIAin bhin iekTy hoie ]

"They are not said to be husband and wife, who merely sit together."

(SGGSJ Ang 788)

The couple can only be regarded as being in union if:

eyk joiq duie mUrqI Dn ipru khIAY soie ] 3 ]

"They alone are called husband and wife, who have one light in two bodies."

(SGGSJ Ang 788)

Compromise and decisions are to be made in the following manner:

dohrw: isK isKxI iml bhihM crcw krihM Apwr ]

Bjn isKwvihM puqR kau hir Bj bwrM bwr ]

"Sikh Husband and Wife congregate and discuss the boundless God.

Teaching their children how to meditate; keep repeating His Name."

(Rehatnama Bhai Sahib Singh ji, p.160)

pauVI ]

iesqRI purKY Aiq nyhuu bih mMdu pkwieAw ] idsdw sBu ikCu clsI myry pRB BwieAw]

ikau rhIAY iQru jig ko kFhu aupwieAw ] gur pUry kI cwkrI iQru kMDu sbwieAw ]

nwnk bKis imlwieAnu hir nwim smwieAw ] 33 ]

"PAUREE: The husband and wife are very much in love; sitting together, they make evil plans. All that is seen shall pass away. This is the Will of my God. How can anyone remain in this world forever? What can be done to prepare for the inevitable death? Serving the Perfect Guru, the body is purified. Guru ji says , the Lord merges them into Himself; whom are absorbed in the Naam."

(SGGSJ Ang 1250)

The couple should to discuss their actions with one another before doing anything. The bride is to respect her in-laws as if they were her own parents and the

bridegroom is to do the same with his in-laws maintaining their love and a good relationship. All actions are to be discussed by the couple and they are to remain strictly in adherence with Gurmat. Then Satguru ji will keep all their affairs on an upward spiral.

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bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Singhnee]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

i know nihung singhs always do it counter clockwise so that their siri sahib is always towards guru sahib. not sure they do the same thing on their weddings too. :T:

[Khalsa4ever]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

I'm gonna have to take a while to digest what khalistani wrote!!

I just assumed it had something to keep Guruji on your right hand side (with your kara). Like Guru's gonna be your right hand man or something

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

[Akaali]

Thanks for the post Khalistani!!!!!!

[V]

Nice Post Khalistani Veer

One Q tho -

khu nwnk ijin ipRau prmysru kir jwinAw ]DMnu sqI drgh prvwinAw ]

"Guru Ji says, she who looks upon the Husband as the Lord, is blessed and has firm faith; great are those wives and they are received with honour in the Court of the

Lord."(SGGSJ Ang 185)

But WHY, isn't tht more a hindu thing to regard husband as lord

bhull chukk maaf

GurFAteh