Sant Ramanand Was Target: Eyewitness

[Azaad]

Attack on Sant Niranjan Dass and Sant Ramanand in Vienna has taken a new turn with an eyewitness claiming the latter was the target of the attackers and not the former as was being projected by the media.

While the attack on the duo in a Ravidass temple on May 24 had been reported as an attack on Dera head Sant Niranjan Das, but an aide and witness of the incident, today told media persons the accused had come to kill Sant Ramanand and not the former.

Tarsem Lal, said Sant Niranjan Das was sitting ahead while Sant Ramanand was sitting five or six feet behind him when the assailants came and one of them started shooting Sant Ramanand first, he added.

Lal had accompanied both the sants during their tour to Austria and came back today with the body of the Sant and a recuperating Sant Niranjan Dass.

He said Sant Niranjan Das was hit in the melee that followed as the rushed to the aid of his deputy and got injured, he said.

However, he was silent on the identity of the assailants and evaded other queries.

Initially it was reported some Sikh fundamentalists had targeted dera head Niranjan Dass for allowing his followers to touch his feet in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib.

The Vienna police too had also reported the attack was premeditated and a conspiracy. What lends credence to fresh revelation is the fact Sant Ramanand had been named successor of Sant Niranjan Das but he was more dynamic of the duo and it was due to his efforts that the more than 36 deras had come up across Europe alone.

He was largely credited with popularising the sect across the globe. Like Sant Niranjan Das, he was given "Chadavah? (religious offering) to the dera when he was a kid.

Known as aggressive and assertive person, he was graduate and had introduced the concept of circulating CDs and DVDs to propagate the teachings of Sant Ravidass. Hence, a possible threat to those who killed him.

[GuruManeyoGranth]

Bhajee - thanks for posting the news articles.

Could you please provide a link to the source?

Thanks jee

Waheguroo

[Dassan Daas]

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090605/punjab.htm#5

[Guest jason12]

Mind you, the news item didn't say that Sikhs terrorists were not to blame. It is true that Sant Rama Nand was instrumental in spreading the mission of Guru Ravidass Ji across the world. So to stop the spread of mission, the sikh terrorists must have though it best to take out the target. Matha tekna was made an issue here but this killing is more to derail Guru Ravidass Ji's mission.

Since Austrian Police says that they were Sikh Fundamentalists and also seems to be a caste factor. It is clear high caste sikhs or sikhs who don't like running of Guru ravidass temples, because it takes away dalit charawah from their gurudwaras may have taken the action. It is not an unknown fact that sikhs don't like ravidassis calling ravidass as Guru and they are extremely jealous of Guru ravidass temples progress. They see the lower castes slipping out of their grip.

If Tarsem lal, the eyewitness didn't say anything about attackers, it could be because calling them sikhs again may infuriate millions of dalits in India. Now whether they were born sikhs or dressed as sikhs needs to be seen. But sikhs haven't been ruled out yet. So please don't jump to conclusions. Since they carried gatras in traditional sense, they must have been amritdhari sikhs. Same gatras these "sikhs" prodly used to attack unarmed worshippers and took a little girl hostage, we heard.

[Kaljug Singh]

Since they carried gatras in traditional sense, they must have been amritdhari sikhs. Same gatras these "sikhs" prodly used to attack unarmed worshippers and took a little girl hostage, we heard.

They must have been wearing some real scary looking gatras to be able to use them to take a little girl hostage in a room full of brave Ravidasias.

K.

[HSD*^]

Mind you, the news item didn't say that Sikhs terrorists were not to blame. It is true that Sant Rama Nand was instrumental in spreading the mission of Guru Ravidass Ji across the world. So to stop the spread of mission, the sikh terrorists must have though it best to take out the target. Matha tekna was made an issue here but this killing is more to derail Guru Ravidass Ji's mission.

Since Austrian Police says that they were Sikh Fundamentalists and also seems to be a caste factor. It is clear high caste sikhs or sikhs who don't like running of Guru ravidass temples, because it takes away dalit charawah from their gurudwaras may have taken the action. It is not an unknown fact that sikhs don't like ravidassis calling ravidass as Guru and they are extremely jealous of Guru ravidass temples progress. They see the lower castes slipping out of their grip.

If Tarsem lal, the eyewitness didn't say anything about attackers, it could be because calling them sikhs again may infuriate millions of dalits in India. Now whether they were born sikhs or dressed as sikhs needs to be seen. But sikhs haven't been ruled out yet. So please don't jump to conclusions. Since they carried gatras in traditional sense, they must have been amritdhari sikhs. Same gatras these "sikhs" prodly used to attack unarmed worshippers and took a little girl hostage, we heard.

dont jump to any conclusions? you just jumped on a whole pile of them. btw no one cares about the ravidassia. lol, most sikhs didnt even know your little cult existed before the shooting. have a nice day .

[Guest jason12]

Since they carried gatras in traditional sense, they must have been amritdhari sikhs. Same gatras these "sikhs" prodly used to attack unarmed worshippers and took a little girl hostage, we heard.

They must have been wearing some real scary looking gatras to be able to use them to take a little girl hostage in a room full of brave Ravidasias.

K.

You can see the pictures on net. Ravidassias who were unarmed gave them very good thrashing. I hope you were not expecting little girl to snatch the knife, are you? They sikhs were sikh i.e mentally sick and now sikhs would sing dhadiwaars about them and glorifying them on youtube. Such a pathetic response.

Mind you, the news item didn't say that Sikhs terrorists were not to blame. It is true that Sant Rama Nand was instrumental in spreading the mission of Guru Ravidass Ji across the world. So to stop the spread of mission, the sikh terrorists must have though it best to take out the target. Matha tekna was made an issue here but this killing is more to derail Guru Ravidass Ji's mission.

Since Austrian Police says that they were Sikh Fundamentalists and also seems to be a caste factor. It is clear high caste sikhs or sikhs who don't like running of Guru ravidass temples, because it takes away dalit charawah from their gurudwaras may have taken the action. It is not an unknown fact that sikhs don't like ravidassis calling ravidass as Guru and they are extremely jealous of Guru ravidass temples progress. They see the lower castes slipping out of their grip.

If Tarsem lal, the eyewitness didn't say anything about attackers, it could be because calling them sikhs again may infuriate millions of dalits in India. Now whether they were born sikhs or dressed as sikhs needs to be seen. But sikhs haven't been ruled out yet. So please don't jump to conclusions. Since they carried gatras in traditional sense, they must have been amritdhari sikhs. Same gatras these "sikhs" prodly used to attack unarmed worshippers and took a little girl hostage, we heard.

dont jump to any conclusions? you just jumped on a whole pile of them. btw no one cares about the ravidassia. lol, most sikhs didnt even know your little cult existed before the shooting. have a nice day .

MOD EDIT I guess sikhs are a voilent cult and members of this cult engage in terrorism against innocents and against other religions like now Talibans do. How similar are you to them? No wonder, it is your reputation and the talk from people like you that peace loving sikhs also get attacked in US here. Shame on you. Straighten up guys. your world is changing around you.

[SaRpAnCh]

WATCH YOUR MOUTH YOU FAKE DON'T YOU DARE TALK RUBBISH ABOUT OUR 5TH GURU IM REPORTING YOU

[apnepart2]

^ wat a fart

[canadiansikh]

These guys followed this Sant because he was of a same caste. This Sant was propagating Bhagat Ravidas's teachings just because of same caste.

So now comes religion based on caste! You have to be doing leather business to join. These guys are setting up same system which Bhagat Ravidas fought against.

Get a chapni nak dubaon layee!