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Jassika, if you really want an outdoor wedding then I hear Christians do outdoor weddings. Or im sure the local mandir can accomodate a small fire u can walk around for your wedding.

Contact your local Priest or pundit. No offence intended lol, but do u see the point im trying to make?

In in terms of Sikh weddings outdoors..

I think your thinking more of the glamour side of things rather than the Blessing of Guru ji.

If u wish to marry with blessing of guru ji then u shud not drag guru to your outdoor venue, but u should have respect and go see guru ji in the gurghar and ger married there.

U have to decide yourself. Do u want to get married like a SIkh should? or do u want to get married like they do in Hollywood films. If like a sikh then be simple and you will be respected.

And yes Gurdwaras are manmade but they are made by men for the Guru and for it to be a place for sangat to come and meet Guru. An outdoor venue is not designed for this. Nor can the upmost respect be fully assured when Guru is taken outside of the Gurdwara.

Learn the history behind the Guru then u will not be asking these questions my friend. It wouldnt even be a question or doubt in your mind if u knew certain things about the rich sikh history. In the times of the Mughals, Sikhs used to be honoured to get the chance to get Guru jis blessing or even to see him since it was not easy in those times since Mughals had prices on sikh heads.

Nowadays we think we jus pay a small fee and get guru to come to anywhere we wish to get married. It should not work like that brother.

You will see my post as very direct. But we need to drum home this message for all.

I hope u take someting away from my post make the right decision. If u do then u will certainly earn my respect and above all u will be respecting Guru ji.

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Satguru is with His Sikhs wherever they are. Gurbani says''so satgur piara mere naal heh,jithe kithe mehnu leh chedai'.

We quarrel about physical spaces,which one is more sacred, whether Gurdarbar should be in an inner city Gurudwara or set up in countryside surroundings. We live in fear of sanctity being desecreted. We argue whether we should go to Gurujee or Gurujee come to us. We accuse each other of making Gurujee travel for our sake and bend around for oursake . We behave as quarrellsome kids of a loving Dad each one claiming he/she knows whats best.

However we forget that Gurujee is far mightier than our quarrels. All spaces belong to Gurujee . As we become reborn as Gurujee's children, our very hearts become thrones where Gurujee resides. Every proper true Sikh is a walking talking mobile Gurudwara. For Gurujee far more important than a make shift tent or a permanent solid structure ,far more important than a wedding or funeral is our true Sikhi love for one another . Thats what puts a smile on Gurujee's face, not our constant bickering over issues big and small . Our love for one another is the purest ,most sacred respect we can give our Dad .

The most unholiest thing is when we stop getting excited and passionate about one another and are quick to kill joy every new idea,every new suggestion that springs in the minds of any one of us, accusing and getting suspicious of each other as being egoistic or selfish or using Dad.

We can engage in an eternal guessing game as to whether Gurujee prefers to be visited in an inner city Gurudwara of smelly(haha) Southall or birmingham or manchester for blessings, or needs a break and would rather order Jassika to set up a make shift Gurdarbar tent up on a glacier in Norway, or the top of Mt kilimanjaro, or besides Victoria Falls, one of Austria's ski resorts, or somewhere in australia's blue mountain or besides Lake Varern in sweden or cameron highlands in malaysia or ben nevis in scotland or Yellowstone park in USA . And out of this guesing game we can invent a million more computer simulated guessing games ,as to whether Jassika is using Gurujee or if indeed Gurujee is secretly using her oblivious to her knowledge!!!!! whether this an ego trip on her part,reflecting her utter foolishness and disrespect ,lack of consideration for protocal , and sheer stupidity ,or ,whether indeed this is one massive brilliant ,creative ,imaginative, intelligent, forward thinking radical ,revolutionary Guru inspired idea because Gurujee himself has decided that as He is unpredictable ,this time around he wants to break his normal pattern and go bless Jassika's wedding besides a waterfall in Breacon Beacons in Wales!!!!!! We could also start turning theological and start debating whether Jassika is intelligent enuff to have worked out her wedding plan herself or whether it was an idea planted in her brain by an aunt who happens to live in Calgary or perhaps her Ethiopian boss at work or whether Gurujee himself turned on the lights in her brain and gave her a vision of this during Raehraas when she somehow managed to shut her eyes for 2 secs . and we can churn this like milk n lassi again and again and again .perhaps this ''great debate '' about Jasika's wedding to be made into a permanent thread on this website . or we could make Jassica's facebook beat the guiness book of records by continuing this debate there and debating on her wedding site for years to come even after she dies!!!!! and we could end up in a big bust up whether it does matter or not .

At the end of the day ,let us daily pray that all our words ,thoughts and deeds ,our ideas and suggestions, though they may break all norms of predictable social and religous behaviour are not propelling out of our little selfish manmatia minds ,but inspired,ordered and radiating from the hukum and happiness of Gurujee whose as Bhai Nand Lal says 'dogs/puppies' we are. '' Hukum rejai chelna Nanak likhia naal''

The answer to that Jassika knows. or, does she?

-whether

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Satguru is with His Sikhs wherever they are. Gurbani says''so satgur piara mere naal heh,jithe kithe mehnu leh chedai'.

We quarrel about physical spaces,which one is more sacred, whether Gurdarbar should be in an inner city Gurudwara or set up in countryside surroundings. We live in fear of sanctity being desecreted. We argue whether we should go to Gurujee or Gurujee come to us. We accuse each other of making Gurujee travel for our sake and bend around for oursake . We behave as quarrellsome kids of a loving Dad each one claiming he/she knows whats best.

However we forget that Gurujee is far mightier than our quarrels. All spaces belong to Gurujee . As we become reborn as Gurujee's children, our very hearts become thrones where Gurujee resides. Every proper true Sikh is a walking talking mobile Gurudwara. For Gurujee far more important than a make shift tent or a permanent solid structure ,far more important than a wedding or funeral is our true Sikhi love for one another . Thats what puts a smile on Gurujee's face, not our constant bickering over issues big and small . Our love for one another is the purest ,most sacred respect we can give our Dad .

The most unholiest thing is when we stop getting excited and passionate about one another and are quick to kill joy every new idea,every new suggestion that springs in the minds of any one of us, accusing and getting suspicious of each other as being egoistic or selfish or using Dad.

We can engage in an eternal guessing game as to whether Gurujee prefers to be visited in an inner city Gurudwara of smelly(haha) Southall or birmingham or manchester for blessings, or needs a break and would rather order Jassika to set up a make shift Gurdarbar tent up on a glacier in Norway, or the top of Mt kilimanjaro, or besides Victoria Falls, one of Austria's ski resorts, or somewhere in australia's blue mountain or besides Lake Varern in sweden or cameron highlands in malaysia or ben nevis in scotland or Yellowstone park in USA . And out of this guesing game we can invent a million more computer simulated guessing games ,as to whether Jassika is using Gurujee or if indeed Gurujee is secretly using her oblivious to her knowledge!!!!! whether this an ego trip on her part,reflecting her utter foolishness and disrespect ,lack of consideration for protocal , and sheer stupidity ,or ,whether indeed this is one massive brilliant ,creative ,imaginative, intelligent, forward thinking radical ,revolutionary Guru inspired idea because Gurujee himself has decided that as He is unpredictable ,this time around he wants to break his normal pattern and go bless Jassika's wedding besides a waterfall in Breacon Beacons in Wales!!!!!! We could also start turning theological and start debating whether Jassika is intelligent enuff to have worked out her wedding plan herself or whether it was an idea planted in her brain by an aunt who happens to live in Calgary or perhaps her Ethiopian boss at work or whether Gurujee himself turned on the lights in her brain and gave her a vision of this during Raehraas when she somehow managed to shut her eyes for 2 secs . and we can churn this like milk n lassi again and again and again .perhaps this ''great debate '' about Jasika's wedding to be made into a permanent thread on this website . or we could make Jassica's facebook beat the guiness book of records by continuing this debate there and debating on her wedding site for years to come even after she dies!!!!! and we could end up in a big bust up whether it does matter or not .

At the end of the day ,let us daily pray that all our words ,thoughts and deeds ,our ideas and suggestions, though they may break all norms of predictable social and religous behaviour are not propelling out of our little selfish manmatia minds ,but inspired,ordered and radiating from the hukum and happiness of Gurujee whose as Bhai Nand Lal says 'dogs/puppies' we are. '' Hukum rejai chelna Nanak likhia naal''

The answer to that Jassika knows. or, does she?

-whether

hahaha Thank You for giving this place hope! best post ever.

but yea I will still need to find other OPEN MINDED sikhs that know how to live to support this idea. Probably best to ask the ones who themselves had their Sikh wedding outdoors.. I will share the answer for other Sikhs to know and reference..

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dear bhenji jassika

as long as i get invited too!!! and get my fair share of tasty gulab jamuns, barfi , kalakand, jalebis and ladoos hopefully cooked in olive oil to prevent my cholesterol shooting up and me dying during your wedding hahaaaaa ,not to forget the main menu of shahi paneer etc .

ooops mabe u shuld be telling us wots on the menu . danger is then ill break in as an uninvited guest hahaaaa if i get too tempted .

sangat is GURU ROOP so mabe u need to work out how many kids u wanna have and approach sangat on here for blessings hahaaaaa

forget all other blessings ,i will bless you by helping to finish off all remaining mithai at your wedding hahaaaaaa

( on a light note )

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But not One person bothered to ask if there would be alcohol served at the golf course venue wedding. Or if there would be people smoking in the Immediate area.

Pause for thought of concern before adopting our western trends.

Looks like you've made up your mind already. Which would make the argument in this topic futile.

Gurfateh.

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and o dint have wedding outdoors but umm always luvv countryside and fantasise and dream of doing all kinds of things outdoors . just spend most of tuesday with a norwegian and american(both really getting close to sikhi) in the marsh and wet lands of a coastal village-town in UK called portishead .walking along the beach ,doing simran and watching wild rabbits ,marsh land and oceonic birds and their sounds and then sat right on the edge of the atlantic oceon nd dipped me feet in that salty oceon water .lush that was .

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But not One person bothered to ask if there would be alcohol served at the golf course venue wedding. Or if there would be people smoking in the Immediate area.

Pause for thought of concern before adopting our western trends.

Looks like you've made up your mind already. Which would make the argument in this topic futile.

Gurfateh.''

dear veerjee ,dont worry , i got a feeling jassika going create a 10 or 20 mile no smoking n drinking zone around her wedding site and me telepathy tells me she wants make u jathedar of a nice khalsa fauj to guard the zone and nikname you as sri singh sahib tigersoulja singh hahaa

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Jassika Ji,

My personal view.

This is not about the physical environment being "unsuitable or suitable" for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's saroop. Personally I think the issue boils down to intention and objective

If the intentions are for the promotion of Dharma and Jeevan then even a brothel is a suitable environment. If the intention is about convenience for wedding guests, self promotion of the family etc then personally I think the motives are self-seeking and self-centered.

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I think this vid sums it up starting from 15 seconds Please just watch the part about wedding halls

Jassika Ji,

My personal view.

This is not about the physical environment being "unsuitable or suitable" for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's saroop. Personally I think the issue boils down to intention and objective

If the intentions are for the promotion of Dharma and Jeevan then even a brothel is a suitable environment. If the intention is about convenience for wedding guests, self promotion of the family etc then personally I think the motives are self-seeking and self-centered.

Truesay!

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Jassika Ji,

My personal view.

This is not about the physical environment being "unsuitable or suitable" for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's saroop. Personally I think the issue boils down to intention and objective

If the intentions are for the promotion of Dharma and Jeevan then even a brothel is a suitable environment. If the intention is about convenience for wedding guests, self promotion of the family etc then personally I think the motives are self-seeking and self-centered.

we all know jassika's intentions and objectives hahaaa! I hear, she just wants to cause a mere little stir, over here, so we all get into gear! and attend her wedding ,my dear (o that rhymed well! hahaaa)

Since we are on the subject of brothels lemme tell u a true but funny story. Many many years ago just as i graduated, i moved out and rented the front ground floor flat of a building. My flat became a little hub of sikhi activities like me and me m8s doing kirtan together loads,loads ,loads. Some chinese girls lived in a big flat upstairs and i would see some nice cars parking outside occasionally, and in my innocence and naiveness i just assumed that these were their boyfriends picking them up for dating etc .Anyway, as a fresh graduate on my 1st job ,and with my flat being busy with us doing kirtan and stuff we didnt have time to bother or worry about this neighbours we had . I did however notice that some sehajdhari sikh guys in that area would be looking up( those girls flat) ,then glance down (my flat), whenever they passed by and give me strange looks and giggle amongst themselves. Never could guess why.

Then,very very shortly within a few weeks those girls suddenly all cleared out and left and dissapeared. The landlord came to me angrily and said '' you have caused me a problem, because of you my chinese girls tenants upstairs flat have all suddenly left'' . i said ''why'' . He said its because that was actually a brothel they were operating upstairs and they had realised that the guy downstairs(me) was actually like a priest in his turban ,beard and all his other m8s too in their religous robes(bana). He said these ''priests ''(us) would start praying and singing very loudly from 3 or 4 a.m and all those prayers were ruining their businesss because all those prayers were putting off their clients and making them want to go home hahaaaaa .Those girls had also complained that, the sound of our drums( lots tablas) was very frightening and causing panic while they were trying to ''entertain'' their ''clients'' hahaaa

So the landlord said to me 'well since you chased them away you better now rent all of upstairs' . Wow, thats exactly what we needed-a bigger space. When we went up the 1st time, o dear indeed that had been a brothel!!!! there was tons and tons of takeaway boxes and empty lager bottles, etc etc . Strangely enough there was no bad smell at all. I got to learn these girls apparently pay for evil spirits that mask every bad odour as an enticement to seduce clients .

Anyway, we cleared up the whole place thoroughly, got it repainted and washed etc and moved up. We started doing simran ,nitnem ,paath, kirtan even more than before.One night, i had a beautiful uplifting reassuring dream/vision in which i saw Shri Guru Nanak Dev jee just floating/walking up the stairs,entering into the flat and blessing it . That area had no gurudwara so some of the older matajis took a set of our keys so they could sit together in the huge prayer room we had sat aside and do Sukhmani Sahib in the afternoons and join us for Raehraas when us guys returned from work . They would even cook for us treating us as their own sons.So, a brothel turned into a local ''Gurudwara'' magically . The local Sikh community would gather for satsangs in this place for sangrand ,puranmashi kirtan plus youth kirtan every friday . This continued till i moved elsewhere .

The presence of a gurmukh in a community,work place, or family can be far more meaningful, magical and mesmerising than we normally realise .

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But not One person bothered to ask if there would be alcohol served at the golf course venue wedding. Or if there would be people smoking in the Immediate area.

Pause for thought of concern before adopting our western trends.

Looks like you've made up your mind already. Which would make the argument in this topic futile.

Gurfateh.

REFER TO POST #8.

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Anand Karaj should not be done in any type of clubs (ex. lions club etc), marriage halls and any place which usually made for parties and marriages etc.

I think Open Space like waterfront, near golf course, private beach front etc is okay as long as couple keep and maintain high respect for guru sahib throughout the event. Jassika, it is okay if you make sure that someone gonna keep high respect to the maryada when guru sahib jee come, stay and leave. Some precautions need to taken care of and i hope that you will take care of it if you opt for outdoor anand karaj.

To those who disagree, i understand the concern but if we can take our guru sahib jee to various camps around globe then i am sure taking guru sahib jee to start new couple life is okay too ONLY if full respect is given along with sikh maryada.

Good Luck in your search

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