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now is the time to act! that gurdwara is a small gurdwara, if we ram the gurdwara out with 2-300 singhs we can most definatley stop darsho ragan spewing any venom, now the time for our so called panthic jathebandia to act instead of posting pictures, youtube linksand text messages

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Singhs and singhanis

This gurudwara will play every trick up their sleeve like calling police and cordon off Gurudwara sahib.

This is what they did at delhi but singhs of Delhi did not let it happen there and this dusht gurnindak had to make a retreat.

So you should go in large numbers well in advance of time.

Get seated and when he comes then make your presence felt. Lodge a police report saying this man is excommunicated and is not citizen of uK. He should not be allowed to disturb peace.

How Darshan lal came out of India when his master sarna is holding a fake world sikh convention there.

He should have been there now.

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WaheGuru Ji is it true there gonna try to bring him here for the Sikh Day Parade :(:(:( I hope not it would be horrid and the whole mohaul would be ruined

seriously i dunno whats happened the new comitee has done such beadbei to the shannt which used to occupy 118th Gurudwara

I heard ppl saying there bringing him to the parade and the parade is always so Chardi Kala nad if they do that itll end up in fights :(:(

does anyone know if this is true do they plan on bringing him here? ny

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WaheGuru Ji is it true there gonna try to bring him here for the Sikh Day Parade :(:(:( I hope not it would be horrid and the whole mohaul would be ruined

seriously i dunno whats happened the new comitee has done such beadbei to the shannt which used to occupy 118th Gurudwara

I heard ppl saying there bringing him to the parade and the parade is always so Chardi Kala nad if they do that itll end up in fights :(:(

does anyone know if this is true do they plan on bringing him here? ny

Teji kaur ji

My sources tell it is just impossible to imagine even ragi darshan to be there.It will not happen. He is out and out.

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This is how delhi sikhs tackled this gurnindak inspite of Govt support to these gurnindaks

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5221

DELHI SIKH SANGAT CONFRONTS RAGI, STOPS MISUSE OF GURDWARA PLATFORM

PANTHIC.ORG | Published on March 3, 2010

MUKHERJI NAGAR, DELHI (KP) - Facing strong opposition from the local Delhi Sangat, ex-communicated heretic Ragi Darshan made a humiliating retreat from a program scheduled by his cronies on March 1st, 2010 at Gurdwara Singh Sabha, Mukherji Nagar.

Despite the backing of hundreds of bussed-in supporters and armed Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee (DSGMC) task-force hoodlums provided by Paramjit Sarna, the local Sangat successfully blocked the pro Kala-Afghani function oragnized by the heretic Ragi's supporters.

Sarna promoting Ragi to undermine Sri Akal Takht

The self-styled "professor" Ragi Darshan, who was ex-communicated from the Khalsa Panth on January 29th, 2010, is barred from using all Panthic stages and platforms. Despite this restriction, anti-Panthic masands of DSGMC and its head Paramjit Sarna are surreptitiously attempting to promote the ex-Sikh Ragi and undermine Sri Akal Takht Sahib's edicts and authority.

Fearing wrath of the Sangat, Ragi supporters have often taken the him unannounced to various venues and have thus avoided confrontation, but for some peculiar reason they had advertised the attendance of Ragi Darshan for March 1st function. This obviously raised concerns among Panthic circles, prompting the Sangat to alert the Jathedars of the Five Takhts about the possible transgression against Sri Akal Takht Sahib's HukamNamas by Ragi's cronies.

In connection to the March 1st program, the Sikh sewadars also petitioned North Delhi Deputy Commissioner, and the Delhi Police Commissioners of the possibility of a violent clash between the Sikh Sangat and supporters of the ex-communicated heretic.

(View complaint to Deputy Commissioner)

(View complaint to Delhi Police)

Behind the scenes, the key indviduals promoting the heretic on the March 1st program were the Sarna brothers, both DSGMC executives, and Prof. Harmohinder Singh, the local Gurdwara president and member of DSGMC.

Congress and Police Involvement - Youth Detained

Leveraging pressure from local Congress Party politicians, Prof. Harmohinder was able to have the Delhi Police assign a large number of police officers around the Gurdwara complex, and even coaxed them to detain several Sikh youths, including Bhai Harminder Singh, Bhai Kulbir Singh, Bhai Harbinder Singh, and Bhai Harjit Singh. These were were the saem Sikh youths who had sent petitions to the Delhi SC and Police commissioner. They had also filed a seperate petition against Ragi Darshan, citing Indian Penal Code 295A (prohibits deliberate and malicious outrage or insult of the religious feelings of any class).

Even though some of the youths had been detained under political pressure, other local Sikh youths across Delhi along with Shiromani Akali Dal members and other local Sikh Sangat had already reached the Gurdwara where Ragi was to perform. The Police had already established a security perimeter there, and were doing security searches of anyone entering the Gurdwara premises.

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(Click Here to view full text of anti-Ragi Poster)

Singhs Targeted at Venue

Delhi Police had already been instructed by Saran and company to question and harass anyone wearing Nihang Singh type dumallas or a large Sri Sahibs (kirpans), and many of the Singhs wearing dumallas or large Sri Sahibs were ill-treated and were told to sit outside near the street and not allowed to enter the Gurdwara premises.

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The arrogant Ragi sitting on a chair in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

Although the function was to begin at 6:30pm, the heretic Ragi and his entourage of four busses comprising of about 150 armed DSGMC hoodlums did not arrive until 8:30pm. In a shocking display of arrogance and disregard for Sri Guru Granth Sahib, the Ragi sat on a chair setup especially for him between the Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Takht and the Kirtani stage.

Sangat Confronts Ragi and promoters

When the organizers were about to announce that the Ragi was to perform on stage, all concerned Sangat members including men, women, and the youth, loudly protested the heretic's presense and raised slogans of ਦੇਗ ਤੇਗ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ!, ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਮਹਾਨ ਹੈ ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਦੀ ਸ਼ਾਨ ਹੈ! (Deg Teg Fateh, Akal Takht Mahan Hai), and began to loudly recite "Satnam Waheguru" and Gurbani.

At this time several of the protesting youths were assaulted by the thugs hired by the Sarna brothers. Despite the intimidation and assaults by the DSGMC hoodlums, the protesting Sangat remained calm and stead forth in their resolve to not allow the Gurdwara management to misuse the premises and violate Sri Akal Takht HukamNamas.

Humiliated, Ragi and Cronies Retreat

Stunned by opposition's resolve, and hoping the situation would not spiral out of control, the management embarrassedly announced that the Ragi would not be allowed on stage. The Kirtan diwan was then concluded by the resident Ragis who recited Anand Sahib and ended the program followed by loud victorious Jaikarays from the Sangat. The humiliated Ragi and his cronies quickly retreated from the scene, and left the premises.

The Sikh youths who had been detained earlier by the Police under political pressure, were released unconditionally around 10:30pm.

Like their predecessors, the Meenays, Masands, Dhir Malliay, Ram Raiyay, pseudo-Nirankaris, Radhan Swamis, Aushutoshis, Sacha Saudees, Kala-Afghanis, Spokesmanees, self-styled Missionaries, these "Darshan Mallees" are now another new cult-like disease that is trying to infect the Panth. The Sangat needs to stay vigilant and keep this menace in check.

The following link has video also.This dusht has run away from there and is creating problem for UK sikhs

http://www.proudkhalsanetwork.com/312/

on March 1st of 2010 DSGPC under supervision of Paramjit Singh Sarna made an arrangement for the kirtan program by Prof. Darshan which was being opposed by Delhi Sikh sangat and local gurudwara committee. The posters against this act were published and pasted at various places in Delhi, but the management committee did not pay any heed towards it. To accomplish their pathetic objective, DSGPC tried to organize the kirtan samagam on 1st of March 2010 with the help of their task force, police and workers of Youth Akali Dal Delhi. By the time the team of Proud Khalsa reached there it was seen that the hoodlums of task force and Akali Dal Delhi were positioned at the main gate of gurudwara sahib in order to prevent the regular sangat from going in or one may say only people of their choice may join in. It is to be pointed out that they were specially instructed to not to let enter any singh or singhni wearing gol dastaars as worn by singhs of Akhand Kirtani Jatha and those of Taksal, as these Jathebandis were strictly against this highly objectionable programme. However in few minutes, the sangat in huge numbers forced its way in. Inside the gurudwara hall just few people were seated amongst whom there were some ladies who were also against Sri Dasam Granth. When sangat entered the gurudwara Rajinder Singh (Khalsa Panchayat) was talking non sense against Sri Dasam Granth and Sri Akal Takht Sahib. Sangat opposed it with the support of Manjit Singh GK and Manjinder Singh Sirsa.

When Proud Khalsa started its video recording, we were asked to stop it and cameras were tempered with, but we gave them stern answers and continued boldly with the recordings. Once the DGSPC management team felt helpless, they sent some women in front, so that in the entire scuffle, they can file law suits against the singhs for misbehavior etc. Sometime back too the same kind of scuffle took place at Faridabad in the samagam by Manpreet Singh Ji Kanpuri, where these women were sent in front, and one of these women spitted at the keski of another lady from Akhand Kirtani Jatha. But like each time, on this occasion the organisers failed in accomplishing there wretched intentions. To pacify the opposition from sangat, they again started with the kirtan by other raagi singhs which was listened peacefully by the sangat. Enraged with their rout, the managers got agitated and abused few Sikhs inside the gurudwara premises, which once more made the whole sangat furious. During the whole incident the Raagi Darshan was sitting on a chair but never appeared a little concerned or seemed bothered. Through this concocted drama, DSGMC wanted to make a show that Delhi Sikh Sangat is going against the hukumnama issued by Sri Akal Takht Sahib by supporting Raagi Darshan . It also be mentioned here that Raagi tried to be a part of such programme in Delhi earlier as well (Japani park, Greater kailash etc), but was always opposed by Delhi sangat.

ਇਸ ਪੂਰੀ ਘਟਨਾ ਦੀ ਰਿਕਾਰਡ ਕਿਤੀ ਵੀਡੀਓ ਅਤੇ ਫੋਟੋ ਦੇਖੋ ਜੀ ।

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I got 2 trouble ticket saying that the pictures are old. Person who made topic replied to us and made things clear:

1) News is taken from: http://.or...10/18Mar10a.htm

2) .org belongs to and maintained by Darshan's family members.

Domain Name:.ORG

Created On:16-Dec-2008 14:50:58 UTC

Last Updated On:21-Dec-2009 06:06:59 UTC

Expiration Date:16-Dec-2010 14:50:58 UTC

Sponsoring Registrar:OnlineNIC Inc. (R64-LROR)

Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED

Registrant ID:ONLC-3558943-4

Registrant Name:Prof. Darshan Singh

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Registrant Street1:10185, Mississauga Road

Registrant City:Brampton,

Registrant State/Province:Ontario

Registrant Postal Code:L7A 0B5

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Dear Sadhsangatji;

It has come to my attention "Professor" Darshan "Singh" who has been excommunicated from the Panth by Akal Takht, has been invited by Miri-Piri Gurdwara to hold a diwan.

According to the Hukamnamma from Akal Takht Sahib, all Sikhs are to not associate in any way with "Professor" Darshan "Singh".

Dass would like to request to the Sadhsangat to protest and object against the decision of the Gurdwara. If this goes ahead, it is a slap on the face of the Sikh nation. How can anyone undermine the sovereignty of the Akal Takht, which was created by our beloved 6th Guru? It hurts me inside that we have gone so low and have no regard for authority no more, I felt like crying and I think we should talk to the police and see if we can peacefully stop this disgrace from happening. What are all the jathabandiya doing. We need to unite to stop this disrespect of Sikh principles.

Please sadsangat ji, do what is in your power to help stop this beadbi from happening, may Guru ji bless everyone in this morcha and help us obey Akal Takhts hukamnama.

Time of Programme - 7 to 8pm 19th march 2010

253-255 the Broadway

Southall, Middlesex UB1 1NF

020 8571 3926

This is the main issue here and all this bickering is doing no good. Singhs need to get together and make sure Darshan Laal does not step on stage.

All this talk that has been going on for months now is going to be tested. Are the Uk Singhs going to stand for Truth or let a heretic run his mouth in UK Gurdwaras. Especially the Southall Singhs got to get on top of this and make sure Truth prevails here.

Are we Giddar or Loins, you guys decide March 19th.

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