Sahib Singhs'S Gurbani Viakaran

[alias]

i believe that sarabloh granth was the work of guru gobind singh, but not as the mainstream public acknoledge them as..

after all, khalsa mehima, and daas gobind and other stuff is there.. so i believe that the whole story of how sarabloh granth came about, is not actually how it did..

please correct me if im wrong here but, how iv heard it is that some udasi, traveler gave it to the dal. or santa singh or a sevak... and they told huever they gave it to the story of how sarabloh granth was rachaa'd.. then it was installed and printed and then the first akhand paat etc...

i cant remember where iv heard it from so if u know of this too, then please tel me where.

thanks in advance!!

gurfateh

[GPS]

Sarbloh Granth is not the work of Guru Sahib.

have you read it? It is easy to make a statement like that without any proof.

[alias]

have you read it? It is easy to make a statement like that without any proof.

have u read it?? i dont think so..

there is 'proof' (in a sence) in the tuks... there are pauris where a sikh is doing benti... if i remember correctly.. and ppl use the statment 'daas gobind' to conclude that this is not the style in which dasmesh pita reffered to themselves in Dasam granth. this is true, but what i say is, what bout the title >iss keet pratt< .. but yea..

therer are a lot of things that ppl say.. most of then are dissolved eaisly.. but this pistol thing that iv found, it is very difficult to deny this.. btw, soz for having a go at u before.. hope all is neutral

btw, the word pistol aint the only word.... the word 'iraq' (aira, dulava, rara, kana, kaka, bihaari) or 'airaak' also comes in siri sarabloh granth... and this is not in DG or SGGS. any time DG mentions iran(/iraq) or persia, its either reffered to as 'turaks' or 'faarsi'.

but, the word iraq is arabic in origon so... maybe its presence does not flag any discrepencies.. but the word is not in sggs, and as far as i am aware, its not in DG either. so... this may be another indicator of the discrepency in the time period wen sarabloh granth was written..

[GPS]

Language of sarabloh granth need not to be same as used in SGGS ji.

That does not make it a suspect scripture.

I have read few of compositions from Sarbloh granth and i find no reason to doubt those..

Word Gobind Das does appear in Dasam Granth sahib also.

My question was directed at Bijla singh ji.May be he will let us know his detailed research

he has done on this scripture.

[AmarjitKaur]

but thats the teeka... the viakaran book, like gurbani grammer book is what im looking for... iv got talvaras book both parts... im looking 4 a online verson pdf, or foto pdf, of bhai randhir singhs book.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/37423004/Prof-Sahib-Singh-Gurbani-Vyakarn-Gurbani-Grammar

[raj_karega_khalsa]

Post in Gurmukhi so I can understand your question. Sarbloh Granth is not the work of Guru Sahib.

Khaalsa Jee, can you please elaborate on why you think so and who - according to you - is the original author ?

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[.- Prabhjot Singh -.]

... im looking 4 a online verson pdf, or foto pdf, of bhai randhir singhs book.i dont know which bhai randhir singh it is, it may be THE bhai sahib bhai randhir singh.. but somone posted here that 'bhai randhir singh' has got a book on vikaran. so thas wot im afta..

I'll scan and upload Bhai Randhir Singh's book but you will have to give me a few days as im busy with something else these days

[Bijla Singh]

Gurbani grammar applies to Gurbani only. I do not know whether Bhai Gurdas Ji has written his works according to Gurbani viyakaran or some other but it is not a rule that when "Meh" or "Antar" appear the sihari on previous word disappears because sihari has different meanings. Sometimes sihari appears on words that are feminine gender such as "Bhagtee", "Simartee" or "Moorat". If you post from Gurbani, I can discuss it further. I looked through teeka of Kabits and the words appear as ਰਿਦ ਅੰਤਰਿ. I do not have much time to look through the rehatnamas but I hardly doubt rehatnamas are written according to Gurbani viyakaran. Book of Gurbani viyakaran is by Bhai Randhir Singh who started AKJ. Other person is Bhai Randhir Singh research scholar. This is usually how they are distinguished. I do not have a functioning scanner nor the time to scan it but this book is one of the best.

I have not come across any evidence to prove that Sarabloh was compiled by Guru Sahib. There are saroops of Aad Guru Granth Sahib and Dasam Granth that were compiled prior to 1699 but not a single copy exists of Sarabloh of that time. Also, had this been the work of Guru Sahib, it would've been part of Dasam Granth. Bhai Mani Singh Ji would've put it in the same granth. Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha states that this granth is the work of Sukha Singh. If you have any evidence proving it to be the work of Guru Sahib, please present it. Guru Rakha

[GPS]

I have not come across any evidence to prove that Sarabloh was compiled by Guru Sahib. There are saroops of Aad Guru Granth Sahib and Dasam Granth that were compiled prior to 1699 but not a single copy exists of Sarabloh of that time. Also, had this been the work of Guru Sahib, it would've been part of Dasam Granth. Bhai Mani Singh Ji would've put it in the same granth. Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha states that this granth is the work of Sukha Singh. If you have any evidence proving it to be the work of Guru Sahib, please present it. Guru Rakha

Unless we have proof to disprove the said authorship of sarabloh Granth we should not comment .

Guru Gobind singh has many other works that are not included in Dasam Granth sahib,

[alias]

I'll scan and upload Bhai Randhir Singh's book but you will have to give me a few days as im busy with something else these days

soooooooooooooooooo

have u got round to scanning it????

where will u put it up online??