Party Halls In Gurdwara

[GurSa Singh]

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[GurSa Singh]

Ok. Honestly speaking radio presenter Nihal presented it pretty well. Tigerstyle - Pops came and spoke as well as Navreet Singh of Guru Hargobind Sahib Gurdwara Coventry.

BBC Asian Network also mentioned the satkaar movement against party halls on the 2pm news. Can someone upload from Iplayer when it becomes available tommorrow??

[SinghWarrior]

Did they interview anyone from a Gurdwara with party halls, such as Ramgarhia Graham Street, Birmingham?

[VanHelsingh]

Ok. Honestly speaking radio presenter Nihal presented it pretty well. Tigerstyle - Pops came and spoke as well as Navreet Singh of Guru Hargobind Sahib Gurdwara Coventry.

BBC Asian Network also mentioned the satkaar movement against party halls on the 2pm news. Can someone upload from Iplayer when it becomes available tommorrow??

That's a first...:lol:

[GurSa Singh]

Did they interview anyone from a Gurdwara with party halls, such as Ramgarhia Graham Street, Birmingham?

Interviewed some Committee guy from Sunderland Sikh Association who run a Gurdwara and party hall.

[GurSa Singh]

Already on bbc iplayer...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00wbkwk/Nihal_30_11_2010

[Pyara]

Already on bbc iplayer...

http://www.bbc.co.uk...ihal_30_11_2010

I thought it was pretty well presented by Nihal.

In the hour show you got 2 Gursikh perspectives (Pops from Tigerstyle and Navreet Singh from Cov), you got a "on the fence" perspective (Jasminder from Reading), you got an extreme confused perspective (the London "Hindu-Sikh lady who wanted to serve lamb samosas in the Gurdwara) and then you even had a pro-party hall prabhandak committee walas perspectives (the embarrassing Manjeet of Sunderland Gurdwara, who I thought Nihal ripped into pretty well).

I think in summary, the BBC AN show was leaning more towards the party halls being immoral in Gurdwara complexes and I sensed even Nihal thought it was not right to serve meat and alcohol on the Gurdwara's properties.

I know from experience yesterday it's not easy to get to speak on the show as BBC AN did vet you and prioritised your call based on what angle you were going to come from. However, the effective use of text messages to get the Gurmat perspective through can be used as well as articulate emails.

I was pleasently surprised that BBC AN carried the Gurdwaras serving meat and alcohol beadbi as a News headline throughout the day yesterday. All in all, this it was positive...

[SinghWarrior]

That Manjit Cheema from Sunderland was completely confused. He started off from a position of trying to justify the existence of the hall, and then, after getting completely ripped to shreds by Nihal, ended up seeming to admit that the hall will be closed down at some point (but still saying it was legitimate!).

The sooner that the Sunderland "Sikh" Association closes down the party hall, the better. I'm sure that otherwise they'll be next in line for the Satkaar campaign.

[Guest Bloom]

In My Opinion,

Some Points:

Those that promote Bajjar Paaps are demons who do not even care about their own kids, leave alone the children of the entire community! These demons who promote Bajjar Paaps teach their children through their actions about alcohol at home, the children also learn through their peers at school, the children also learn about the vices on all media, WHERE will the children learn VIRTUE ?!?!?! Guroo Sahib protected from vices; these demons want to in the Name of Guroo Sahib destroy their children ?!?!? What hypocrisy !!! Having alcohol meat and dancing at Gurdwara Sahib (and everything connected to Gurdwara Sahib and the Name of Sikhi!) is like having pork and alcohol at mosques and promoting pork and alcohol in the name of Islam; tell them to go and try that !!!

Along with alcohol culture, other cultures are automatically attached to it. For example, if you watch videos, or know common sense in society, along with the alcohol culture, the promiscuous culture is automatically attached. These demons through their actions attach their children (including their daughters) to the sex culture (the children just do it behind their backs). How do you think the ‘muslims’ who try to convert the ‘girls of siks’ many times first introduce them or get them drunk with alcohol ?!?! When the children see the place where Virtue were SUPPOSE to be taught through words and actions, that place through actions doing absolute vices (meat, alcohol, dancing …) the children are smart enough to call the elders hypocrites !!! The children then indulge in vices outside of their homes. The place where they were suppose to come and learn about Virtue, became a school of vices through actions of their Demon elders! How Sad! The demons in the name of ‘Sicki’, attack True Sikhi! Besides Naraks and Joons where else could these demons go ?!?!?!

Then these demons speak of ‘modern’. What absolute demonic language !!! SatGuroo Sahib Jees Dharma is Eternal !!!!! It is Permanent as set by Guroo Sahib !!!!! It cannot be changed !!!!! They cannot use the name Sikh and preach against Sikhi !!! I am sure there are some legal actions that can be taken against them! Guroo Sahib from MahaaRaajan Deh MahaaRaaj Akaal Rooop Guroo Nanak Dev Jee MahaaRaaj to BaadShaah Darvesh MahaaRaajan Deh MahaaRaaj Guroo Gobind Singh Jee Akaal Roop Guroo Nanak Dev Jee MahaaRaaj Roop Did EVERYTHING to make SIKH. Then these demons ‘hi-jack’ EVERYTHING Guroo Sahib blessed to make SIKH, and in the name of SICK they attack SIKHI through words and actions! HOW DEMONIC!

When hypocrisy is practiced in Gurdwara Sahibs, the children remain silent, but then they themselves become drunks, promiscuous and do everything against Sikhi. They leave Sikhi and go to ‘others’. The sharaabee kabaabee elders are responsible for this!

Now understand this! SGPC and DSGMC WILL NOT HELP YOU! The reason these sharaabee kabaabees do this with great confidence is the ‘invisible support system’. SGPC ‘owners’ are themselves involved in alcohol industry! DSGMC ‘owners’ are themselves bajjar paapees and involved in Alcohol! Badals are involved in Alcohol Industry! Sarnas use Gurdwara Sahib for alcohol parties and serve their demon guests like KP Gill at their sons wedding their favorite drinks (of course using Guroo Sahibs Golak), Etc. The demons all around the world know that SGPC and DSGMC are themselves corrupt, so they know they have the ‘invisible support system’.

Also these Demons saying ‘they don’t pocket money blah blah blah, its all about expenses blah blah blah!’ ABOSULTE LIES! They pocket A LOT of money! And Also In Dharma!, THE SEEDS ARE MOST IMPORTANT! YOU CANNOT USE POISON TO GROW AMBROSIA! YOU CANNOT USE THE MONEY FROM BAJJAR PAAPS TO ‘PROMOTE’ AMRIT! WHAT HYPOCRISY !!!! DON’T THEY KNOW WHAT DHARAM DEE KIRT IS ?!?!

The solution is for True Khalsa Dharma Aashikhs ALL OVER THE WORLD to take charge of their localities! Stop depending on SGPC and DSGMC! You have no clue how much they attack Sikhi behind the scenes! Upfront they speak of the skies (and the gullible get convinced), behind the scenes they make LONG TERM plans to destroy Sikhi! Including Promoting Alcohol!

Badals own SGPC currently. Badals also own Tv Channels. Go and see what they promote through their TV channels (all you see are people with turbans promoting sex and alcohol). Badals are also involved in alcohol industry! Sarnas are also involved in alcohol industry! They are ‘Best Friends’ with Alcohol Mafia Bosses!

New Generation RehatVaan AmritDhaaree NishKhaam True Khalsa Dharma Aashikhs All Over The World Will Bring Peace To World! The Children Will Love You For It! DON’T DEPEND ON THE ‘OLDIES’! MOST (not all) MOST OF THE ‘OLDIES’ ARE CASTE RIDDEN GOLAK CHORS WHO SPEAK OF SIKHI THIS AND SIKHI THAT !!! THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN ‘JATHEDAAREE’ FOR THEIR EGOS !!! THEY ARE ALL EITHER DEMON BADAL OR DEMON SARNA ‘BROWN NOSES’ (FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, IT MEANS THEY LICK THEIR A$$!)

NEW GENERATION INSPIRED BY GURU SAHIB REHATVAAN AMRITDHAAREE NISHKHAAM NEW GENERATION TRUE KHALSA DHARMA AASHIKHS ALL OVER THE WORLD TAKE CHARGE !!!!! You Will Have A Lot Of Support From EVERYONE !!!!! THE WHOLE WORLD WILL LOVE YOU FOR IT !!!!! EVEN THOSE BROUGHT UP IN SHARAABEE KABAABEE FAMILIES WILL SUPPORT YOU !!! YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM EVERYWHERE !!!!! THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO STILL LOVE TRUTH !!! THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN AND WANT PLACES TO BE LIGHT HOUSES OF VIRTUE !!!!! DHAN DHAN GURMAT !!!!!

The WHOLE WORLD is now admitting the ills of alcohol, the ills of adultery, the ills of smoking, the whole world are becoming vegetarians Etc! The whole world are starting to see what our Guroo Sahib blessed us with !!!!!

THE WHOLE WORLD IS GOING TO FALL IN LOVE WITH TRUE KHALSA DHARMA !!!!!

ALL CORRUPT GURDWARA SAHIBS AND INSTITUTIONS IN THE NAME OF SIKHI WILL BE CLEANED UP ALL AROUND THE WORLD !!!!!

THE DEMONS WILL BE DESTROYED BY THE POWER OF TRUTH !!!!!

THE TRUTH WILL THUNDER AND RISE !!!!!

GUROO SAHIB KIRPA KARAN !!!!!

CHARDHI KALA !!!

(Also, Don’t Trust Nhals BBC (Bought By CongRSS) and His CongRSS Call Ins (Like Jasminder). They Might Do A Little Here And There That Seem ‘Okay’; But They Are ‘Not Friends Of Sikhi’. They Will Attack From All Sides, And Then Give You A ‘Candy’ On One! Don’t Be Fooled!. If They Become Authentic Truth Lovers, Then See; But Don’t Trust Blindly! Be Aware!. They Are NOT Friends Of Truth And Sikhi! They Support GENOCIDES OF SIKHS AND PROMOTE GOI PROPAGANDA LIES !!! WHAT ELSE TO SAY ?!?!?)

[Southall Youth]