Sikh Channel & Dudley Protest

[Only five 1,125]

Im a Celebrity LOLLL...Anyways it seems as though our dear old friend Mr Medare(dudley committee supporter has fled to Sikh Phiolosophy Network and has started moaning on there..the only problem is they have jumped to his rescue and are 100% behind his views ....it seems as though our friend Mr Medare has found a home amongst the pakandhi missionary community....Just to leave a taster of what the fools on that forum are preaching

'We know Sikhs are going to go and drink, and at least if they are doing it on premises where the Gurudwara can take some benefit from it, maybe the Gurudwara can lauch campaigns with the money to help stop alcohol abuse.'

SPN is know for its attack on Sikhi. They dug their own hole and now all they have are 4 to 5 fools discussing among themselves how they can get more members. There a pathetic bunch who use sangats donations to speak against Gurmat among other activities like follow people in the shadows. These masand are making their own path way to hell.

[K Singh 82 54]

The Akal takht does not preside over te UK Law.

If this isn't slave like mentality...then i don't know what is?

Here we have a person who claims to be Sikh but is actually putting worldly law above his Guru's hukam...and all just to satisfy his lust for worldly pleasures!!

[GoliMaro 4]

well the video speaks a 1000 words, This is the UK after all, and UK law is important, just as you respect the rules of the road, theres certain times that you need to respect the law.

He is correct that they have to take account of the covernants on the land,

The Akal takht does not preside over te UK Law.

an you all know that , other wise the M25 would have 30 lanes, all going in different directions.

Agreed UK Law is important. But UK Law is not above God's law. Your thinking religious fanatic ain't ya, lol! Well mate you should really think about picking up a book and learning about Sikhi and Sikh history. Do something useful with your life kid.

Guru Ji (Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji) used to sit on the Akaal Takhat Throne and give Hukam defying the governmnets of that day and the law of the land in the interests of Sikhi and Sikhs, not frigging Manmat which some people here seem to keep justifying through ignorant views, comments and the baseless Gurdwara Constitution.

O but your thinking that Jathedar is just a man so who is he, he ain't the Guru! So you start to question the Sandesh, but put simply you can't question Gurbani! Maharaj states clearly in Bani about the use of intoxicants and to reffrain from this. The dudley kinfolk and their supporters may be able to convince the wider community through pathetic reasoning, backtracking and lies that the committee and the people were in the right to have the hall and a party sharty. But when these people die along with the many people who think like this, they won't be able to convince Guru Ji about misuing funds through the Golak or otherwise (the council's money or whoevers) just to have a 'good' time. :rolleyes2:

That rich isn't it.. the way this protest went about on saturday, it was certainly somthing form the dark ages.

criminal acts were commited, againt people and peoperty FACT

if there are issues with the committe , thats a different matter.

The actions of individuals dring the whole stakar campaign into question, its methods, its tactics, and its organisation or ability to control what it creates.

If there are issues with the ploice's action on saturday, then bring them to account.

Secondly don't be so naive to think that there are people in the community hell bent on simply causing trouble, but this is the image DUDLEY 'SANGAT' want to paint ain't it mate, just like that blonde Aunty in the video? If that was the case they would of done it without provication and at the start regardless of the damage to the movement and image of the satkaar campaign.

Satkaar Campaign have unequivocally said and stated that protests are arranged on the lines of peaceful means and have released statements to this effect plus a protocol for the protest. They are not an organistation or formal body, just read their blogspot instead of chatting BEKWAS. So just what Methods? What Tactics? What Organisation and Control are you reffering to?

They currently don't hold meetings before hand with the protestors to reiterate the peaceful nature where they can exercise another level of control. Thus in the meantime they are not responsible until they exercise all possible levels of control and become an organisation for the actions of a minority of people who may take things into 'their own hands' because they have lower levels of tolerance towards abusive ignorant people. :laugh2:

Goli Maro

[11Gurus1Jot 176]

So what are you trying to say ... your not a sikh if you've not done amrit?

or ar you just doing an add for a local function hall?

So what you are saying is that there is no place for Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Amrit in your new version of Sikhi?

Do you believe that Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj was one of the 10 Gurus? Do you believe that the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has the light of all 10 Gurus within it?

[11Gurus1Jot 176]

lets get one thing straight the freehold was purchased by the gurdwara purely out of gurdwara golak funds........yes the building itself was built from other sources.......including a contribution from the nishkam sevak jatha and baba ji himself laid the first brick.....all these are facts!!!

guru ji's property/land has been used for immoral purposes...end of!!!

what we should be talking about is the woman spokesperson for the centre how dare she call mahraj da saroop...a book......further beadbi here to a national audience what a total disgrace!!!

Well said Darknight - We should just keep coming back the facts like above. The Dudley Manmukhs and the real Dudley Sikh Sangat are so easy to identify. What a poor poor soul the woman spokesman is who you mention above. If after reaching that age she still calls Guru Ji "a book" then she must really be lacking some basic sense, or be seriously lacking in belief!!!

[Dudleysingh 110]

If this isn't slave like mentality...then i don't know what is?

Here we have a person who claims to be Sikh but is actually putting worldly law above his Guru's hukam...and all just to satisfy his lust for worldly pleasures!!

Get real, so the satkar is above the law,or you got your own laws,

[Dudleysingh 110]

So what you are saying is that there is no place for Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Amrit in your new version of Sikhi?

Do you believe that Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj was one of the 10 Gurus? Do you believe that the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has the light of all 10 Gurus within it?

Looks like satkar had their own brand of Sikhi on saturday, YOU ARE WELCOME TO YOUR NEW SIKHI WORLD

Wich supports violance , agrression, vandalism, and intimidation....

I dont have a new version, Sikh sangat does!

[Dudleysingh 110]

If this isn't slave like mentality...then i don't know what is?

Here we have a person who claims to be Sikh but is actually putting worldly law above his Guru's hukam...and all just to satisfy his lust for worldly pleasures!!

Who do you think you are questioning my sikh beliefs,

just take a look at what was achieved on saturday and question your own moral values,

If you are proud of saturday , then you must me a minority.

i dont believe the guru's hukam supports intolorance, or agression to another person.

you obviously have doubts in your beliefs, to even question another persons.

all ther reports of militants are correct , that the only way to describe the tribal action that is taking place in the name of the Guru.

YOU ARE WELCOME TO YOUR VICTORY - hope you are all very proud of what you achieved.

[Aman0001 71]

Congratulations to Satkaar and the Sikh Sangat for the victorious protest on Saturday! There were a few minor scuffles after provocation from the committee which wasnt ideal, but the job was done which is the most important thing.

[West London Singh 330]

Does anyone know if Dudley is sending any coaches to the rememberance march ? Nah...only kidding, there is something very seriously wrong with the Dudley sangat. You've got every sikh in every town in the UK angry and disapproving of what they're doing in Dudley....and yet still the Dudley people are oblivious as to how much they are hated by Sikhs from Southall to Hounslow....from Handsworth to Balsal Heath.....from Barking to Finchley.....from Coventry to Leicester.....from Bradford to Leeds etc etc. Universally despised by the Sikhs the world over and yet they still don't understand. I've said this before here, we Sikhs around the world want to, and deserve to, see the faces of these people. Talking to friends and relations these last few days the conversation very much centres around the identity of those women (some supposedly amritdhari) inside the party hall laughing at sikhs outside chanting waheguru. The identity of those young men inside the hall that laughed at simran and tried to drown it out with bhangra. Sikhs up and down this country are speculating on the identity of the real faces behind them and anonymous people on the internet such as 'dudley singh'

Like I said....there is something wrong with the people of Dudley. I don't know whether its something to do with the water supply or something brought about by poverty, seeing as they live in a town where a house is bought for the same price as a garden shed in other sikhs areas of the uk.....but whatever the reason they do have very poor comprehension skills and the only way they'll understand is if their identities....pictures of their little faces....are published for the benefit of the wider UK sangat. Only then will they finally understand what the uk sikhs think of them.

[11Gurus1Jot 176]

Dear Mr Dudley, I will be back to have some dialogue with you in a couple of days. I just need to talk to some Sikhs before I talk to you. I will speak to you in a couple of days time.

[11Gurus1Jot 176]

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji,

There is a theory that some people have come onto this Forum to distract us from discussing the 1984 Rally being held THIS Sunday 5th June 2011 (11a.m.) at Hyde Park, LONDON.

Please don't get distracted, please can we discuss only 1984 until Sunday (or at least all day Saturday, tomorrow).

Please Dear Sadh Sangat Ji.

[Singh559 2,659]

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji,

There is a theory that some people have come onto this Forum to distract us from discussing the 1984 Rally being held THIS Sunday 5th June 2011 (11a.m.) at Hyde Park, LONDON.

Please don't get distracted, please can we discuss only 1984 until Sunday (or at least all day Saturday, tomorrow).

Please Dear Sadh Sangat Ji.

I actually thought something similar to this could have been possible, but not specificall what you said.

It makes sense, good luck to my brothers and sisters in the UK.

[Dudleysingh 110]

Does anyone know if Dudley is sending any coaches to the rememberance march ? Nah...only kidding, there is something very seriously wrong with the Dudley sangat. You've got every sikh in every town in the UK angry and disapproving of what they're doing in Dudley....and yet still the Dudley people are oblivious as to how much they are hated by Sikhs from Southall to Hounslow....from Handsworth to Balsal Heath.....from Barking to Finchley.....from Coventry to Leicester.....from Bradford to Leeds etc etc. Universally despised by the Sikhs the world over and yet they still don't understand. I've said this before here, we Sikhs around the world want to, and deserve to, see the faces of these people. Talking to friends and relations these last few days the conversation very much centres around the identity of those women (some supposedly amritdhari) inside the party hall laughing at sikhs outside chanting waheguru. The identity of those young men inside the hall that laughed at simran and tried to drown it out with bhangra. Sikhs up and down this country are speculating on the identity of the real faces behind them and anonymous people on the internet such as 'dudley singh'

Like I said....there is something wrong with the people of Dudley. I don't know whether its something to do with the water supply or something brought about by poverty, seeing as they live in a town where a house is bought for the same price as a garden shed in other sikhs areas of the uk.....but whatever the reason they do have very poor comprehension skills and the only way they'll understand is if their identities....pictures of their little faces....are published for the benefit of the wider UK sangat. Only then will they finally understand what the uk sikhs think of them.

hay, no need to speculate, i saw what happened in dudley myself,

ahh so west london, you boys all live in shed's on teh fight path to heathrow, so the cheap seats of london town, and all work at the airport as cleaners,

atleast the people of dudley are hard working and have time for each other.

you londoners dont even speak to each other with a smile, its always why u speaking to me! and you talk about poverty.

when you develop some warmth for another person in the world then speak ,

[ub1 1]

hay, no need to speculate, i saw what happened in dudley myself,

ahh so west london, you boys all live in shed's on teh fight path to heathrow, so the cheap seats of london town, and all work at the airport as cleaners,

atleast the people of dudley are hard working and have time for each other.

you londoners dont even speak to each other with a smile, its always why u speaking to me! and you talk about poverty.

when you develop some warmth for another person in the world then speak ,

Southall is not a good place to live. I know.

Many of the so called Punjabi youth are on drugs and the girls just goto Ealing for a bit of Gora and then hangout with mummy and daddy at HAvelock Road on the Sunday morning. True I'm sure it happens in other regions but not to this scale.