Mata Sahib Kaur Academy Is Apparently Shutting Down

[JSinghN 40]

Ive heard that it is shutting down tomorrow and that the financial backer wants the keys to the place apprently, has anyone got any further information?

[Tejvir 20]

Paaji, I've just recieved a email with the following.

From: sikhacademy@live.co.uk

Subject: Mata Sahib Sikh Kaur Academy Statement

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:20:15 +0100

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji

As most of you are aware Mata Sahib Kaur Sikh Academy has been running over the last two and a half years largely because of the generosity of one individual. He has arranged a loan of £1.2 million for the purchase of the Academy, by giving property as security to the bank.

With the generous support of the local Sangat and from across the country the sewadars have paid all monthly installments on the loan and considerably developed the Academy building.

On Thursday night the financial backer notified the Academy sewadars that he will no longer be able to support Mata Sahib Kaur Sikh Academy and will require the keys to be handed over on Monday evening.

We would like to publicly thank the individual for his support over the last two and a half years. Many families and children have benefited considerably from The Mata Sahib Kaur Sikh Academy.

We understand that this will come as a shock and be very distressing to the Sangat. It is with a heavy heart that The Sewadars will be handing over the keys.

All the Sadh Sangat is invited to attend Mata Sahib Kaur Sikh Academy on Monday evening. As has always been the case with Mata sahib Kaur Sikh Academy, the events of Monday evening will take place with total transparency in front of the Sadh Sangat.

Mata Sahib Kaur Sikh Academy

8 Oaks Lane, Newbury Park, Ilford, Essex IG2 7PL

E: SikhAcademy@Live.co.uk W: www.SikhAcademy.co.uk

Taking care the future of our Youth - Today!

[JSinghN 40]

How very sad!

[Gurdaspuria E12 24]

cant any of the gurdwaras do anything to help. maharajs saroops countless gutke will have to be moved. this is very bad. this the same place which handled the seva durng bow incident. its part of our history as uk sikhs.

once a nishan sahib is placed it cannot be taken down

[kam200 1]

This is very sad.

What is the Maryada for taking down the Nishan Sahib? This will be a very difficult thing to do.

[FearlessSher 6]

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[West London Singh 327]

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't this mysterious "generous" inividual done rather well out of this whole deal ?

All he's done is list one of his other properties as security in order to purchase the academy but it is donations from sevadars that has been paying the loan to the bank. But at the end if it....its this individual that walks away with the keys to the whole building.....without actually spending a penny. Who is this "generous" individual ?

[MS1NGH 35]

there was a big drive a few months back for donations to stop this place closing and lots of donations were made in a short period of time from sangat around the uk. There was so many posts on this website by people who attend the academy begging for donations. Why suddenly is it closing down with not a single mention to the wider sangat and how come nobody is doing anything to stop this from happening? what is the reason that this individual wants the keys? what are his plans for the property?

[West London Singh 327]

^ Exactly my point M Singh. I'm not aware of the whole situation but from the information being shared here it seems this man is gaining the keys to this property without spending a penny of his own money. Something doesn't seem right here. How can other people be paying the loan and interest on the loan for so long only for this man to come along and take the property ?

[SSG 17]

Mata Sahib Kaur Sikh Academy, Ilford, IG2 7PL

Is about to close down and this is a huge issue as this is the same blessed guru ghar that with the blessings of maharaj, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, done the seva of 11 burnt saroops of our true guru sahib in 2009.

Our true guru that gave sat on a hot iron plate as did Guru Arjan Dev Ji,

Our true guru that gave their head for another faith,

Our true guru that gave their mother, their father, their four sons, their everything and even their shoes and still did praise of Akaal Purakh waheguru in the jungles of machiwara,

This guru ghar is being faced with closure and there is one thing we can do, and that is turn up on Sunday 21^st August 2011 and do an ardaas to maharaj and show the people who want to close this blessed guru ghar down that there is a panth out that it has a VOICE.

This guru ghar has put many singhs and singhnis on the right path of our true guru, it is a gurdwara that has produced many diamonds of the panth is without a doubt it is going to create more. There is no commite and the only 'head' of this gurdwara is maharaj themselves, this is a guru ghar commited to seva and every saturday there is a Khalsa Camp which teaches gurbani santhiya and kirtan and much much more. Without this guru ghar many children that live local and that live far won't have the chance to to do seva and simran as much as they get the chance to do in the academy.

LOOK AT OUR HISTORY WHAT DOES IT SHOW...

Thevies like Bhai Bidi Chand got sangat of the 5th guru and were turned to Sants.

People like Bhai Yoga Ji who got up in the middle of his Anand Karaj and realized his mistakes.

Guru Har Krishan Sahib Ji met a deaf and dumb person, guru ji placed a bamboo stick and the person and this person was able to Katha.

We can be this sangat but we have got to realize that if we destroy our future, we can't go back to the past...

IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI, IS OUR TRUE GURU, AND IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALL SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF OUR TRUE GURU... THEN YOU WOULD SURELY TURN UP ON MONDAY AND LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW, THAT WE ARE UNITED AND THAT WE HAVE A VOICE...

BENTI TO ALL SAADH SANGAT,

EVERYDAY FROM MONDAY 15TH AUGUST 2011 - THURSDAY 18TH AUGUST 2011 SANGAT FROM ALL AROUND THE UK WILL TAKE PART IN CONTIOUS JAAPS OF MANY BANIS... FROM 2-6PM

BENTI TO ALL,

ON FRIDAY 19TH AUGUST 2011 THERE WILL BE THE ARAMBH OF THE "LAST AKHAND PAATH SHAIB AT THE ACADEMY" (ALTHOUGH THIS IS IN MAHARAJS HANDS, AS THE GURUS GLANCE MAY FALL ON ANYONE WHO MAY AWAKE AND BREAK THE SHACKLES OF MAYA AND SAVE THIS GURU GHAR) AND ON SUNDAY 21ST AUGUST 2011 WILL BE THE BHOG OF THIS AKHAND PAATH AND ON SUNDAY 21ST AUGUST 2011 PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THIS GURU GHAR STAYS AS A GUR GHAR...

TAKING DOWN A NISHAAN SAHIB IS DISRESPECT TO ALL THOSE GREAT SINGHS AND SINGHNIS WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIFES FOR IT...

WE ARE THERE BROTHERS AND SISTERS, THSI IS OUR FAMILY TREE....

Our true brothers that were bricked alive,

Our true brothers that fought 1 on 125,000 and still fought to the end,

Our true brother that fought with their seis in their hands and still defended the purity of Sri Harmandir Sahib,

Our true sisters that became shaheed at the ages of 8 and 6 (Bibi Waheguru Kaur and Bibi Satnam Kaur) they held grenades and destroyed the tanks making their way to harmandir sahib,

Our true sisters and brothers that gave up their everything and gained matrydom to defend the purity of Sri Harmandir Sahib,

Our true sisters and brothers that became shaheed on the cold streets of Delhi in November 1984,

IF OUR FAMILY CAN DO THIS WITH GURU JIS KIRPA, THEN WE CAN SURELY SAVE ONE GURU GHAR?

SORRY IF ANYTHING I SAID WAS WRONG OR IF IT OFFENDED ANYBODY

WJKK WJKF

[SantLUCIFER 29]

Dhal vich kuch kala lagda, actually sari dhal kali lagdi! :s

[kkaur123 13]

It sounds like everyone needs to pull together rather than start checking the Daal at this stage. Lets not put more spices in the Tadka.

A Gurdwara will close. The first so called Youth Gurdwara in the UK at that. This is not a time to get gossiping and digging for dirt. Maybe the individual has some problems and it is none of our business. From my understanading he is a Gursikh and is not some gangster. We let Guru Ghars be run by gangsters and we don't do anything about that. Here we have a brother in trouble and we are trying to dig for dirt.

Maybe we can speak to local Gurdwara's to see if they can buy it or if anyone knows any Sants or Jathebandis looking for a place. So lets try focus and speak to people who might want to buy.

Try to be constructive.

[MS1NGH 35]

Does anybody know how much of the 1.2million loan had been paid over the past 2 years? Also which gurdwaras are run by gangsters?! ^^^

[West London Singh 327]

It sounds like everyone needs to pull together rather than start checking the Daal at this stage. Lets not put more spices in the Tadka.

A Gurdwara will close. The first so called Youth Gurdwara in the UK at that. This is not a time to get gossiping and digging for dirt. Maybe the individual has some problems and it is none of our business. From my understanading he is a Gursikh and is not some gangster. We let Guru Ghars be run by gangsters and we don't do anything about that. Here we have a brother in trouble and we are trying to dig for dirt.

Maybe we can speak to local Gurdwara's to see if they can buy it or if anyone knows any Sants or Jathebandis looking for a place. So lets try focus and speak to people who might want to buy.

Try to be constructive.

I'm sorry K kauur 123 but that is quite possibly the most childishly naive post I've ever read in my entire life. A Sikh lives in the real world. He is not an innocent thick baboon who buries his head in the sand because he isn't smart enough to know how things work. The "generous" individual is the LEGAL owner and can ask for the keys back BUT......the people at the academy know full well that the LAW OF EQUITY will not allow that to happen because others have been paying the loan / mortgage.

Let me put it this way : Lets say I saw a really nice big property in Bayswater up for sale at £1 million. I came on here and suggested we buy it and turn it into a central London Sikh centre. I said I'd provide my house as security for the loan as long as you guys pay off the loan. Thus...every month you good people here pay off the loan while I sit in the sun in Dubai. Paneer Monster pays the first months installment. Then Cool Water. Then you and so on and so forth. And then.....once its nearly paid off, I suddenly turn up and say "thank you very much fellas......now get lost...get off my property or I'm calling the police "

Are you really the kind of sikh K Kauur123 who would turn around and say "oooooh....lets not be argumentative...lets just go" ?

I'm sorry, but because these people at the academy are so willing to hand the property over knowing full well that Equity is on their side......makes the cynical side of me think that many of them are in on some elaborate scam. Because lets be honest here....The only people who have spent money are ordinary sikhs and parents who have made donations. There is something rotten in the state of Denmark.

[SinghWarrior 102]

I don't think it is wise to speculate on the financial issues, or make any attacks on any individual, without FULL knowledge of the facts. Clearly, by some of the posts above, it appears people don't have FULL knowledge of the facts. Accordingly, such people should not make statements suggesting certain individuals are at fault or acting greedy. If people want to have FULL knowledge of the facts, they should speak to the Academy sevadaars directly rather speculating on a forum.