Jump to content

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth


Singh559
 Share

Recommended Posts

I cannot provide sources as I don't remember exactly where they are from, but I do believe they are true (. If someone from the sangat can point out the book or sources to verify what i'm saying, i'd very much appreciate it.

Without a doubt Jesus Christ was a very holy individual, some can say he was a bhagat and did a lot of good. What remains a mystery is the first thirty years of Jesus' life, to date no real tangible evidence points out to where Jesus went or stayed during his first thirty years and the fact that the Bible was written 100 or so years after the departing of Jesus doesn't help either. What some historians claim is that Jesus actually lived with Buddhist monks and served as the Dalai Lama in India. A historian was looking through the scrolls kept at a Buddhist temple and found the Dalai Lama's name at the time was similar to Jesus' name. It's recorded that a light skinned individual came (most likely an aryan brahman) and kicked him out of the country due to the threat of his teachings to the brahman caste system that ensured a power hold on the people.

Two main points that intrigue me:

1) How long hinduism (brahmans) have been trying to absorb and kill off any heterogeneous mix and homogenize the entire population. Now a days it can be seen through television serials that mothers like to watch a lot. They cunningly show a Sikh family as being people with the outward look of a Sikh, but do stuff like speak hindi and perform hindu rituals. Mothers have a large part in maintaining Sikhi in the family, if the mother sways from the path, slowly the family will as well. Bollywood is another tool that directly targets the youth into alcohol abuse, drug abuse, losing self respect, distancing self from Sikhi/Punjabi subiachaar and pursuing time wasting things such as aashqi. Of course government intervention (such as the indian military smuggling drugs into Punjab) makes a difference as well.

2) The message of Jesus was very simple, his message was originally for the betterment of humanity. I do believe the overall message and goal of Jesus has tremendously changed into a sort of a club (at least for the most part) with benefits.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sadly we Sikhs don't have very knowledge of Abrahmic faiths specially Christanity and Jiddaism .

Son of virgin Marry lol

Son of God ? Then who we are ?

Died for our Sins ?

Means sacrifice himself strange, Sacrificing to please God is pakhand .

Therefore Jesus cant be even Bhagat .

There is no such thing called Hinduism as we all know meaning of this word Hindu .

This so called Hinduism is a grooup of many relegions like

1) Tribal Religion

2) Vaishnava

3) Shivaites

4) Tantra and etc

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sadly we Sikhs don't have very knowledge of Abrahmic faiths specially Christanity and Jiddaism .

Son of virgin Marry lol

Son of God ? Then who we are ?

Died for our Sins ?

Means sacrifice himself strange, Sacrificing to please God is pakhand .

Therefore Jesus cant be even Bhagat .

There is no such thing called Hinduism as we all know meaning of this word Hindu .

This so called Hinduism is a grooup of many relegions like

1) Tribal Religion

2) Vaishnava

3) Shivaites

4) Tantra and etc

Yes, hindusim evolved from brahmanism. They focused on a select few Gods and in return carried on the caste system. Okay well he isn't a bhagat, but he was a saintly figure. I will edit that out.

Hindu means thief in Persian. Anyways, don't want to go off topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvGXsHsFRlc&

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sadly we Sikhs don't have very knowledge of Abrahmic faiths specially Christanity and Jiddaism .

Son of virgin Marry lol

Son of God ? Then who we are ?

Died for our Sins ?

Means sacrifice himself strange, Sacrificing to please God is pakhand .

Therefore Jesus cant be even Bhagat .

There is no such thing called Hinduism as we all know meaning of this word Hindu .

This so called Hinduism is a grooup of many relegions like

1) Tribal Religion

2) Vaishnava

3) Shivaites

4) Tantra and etc

It is followers of Jesus Christ who made him out to have sacrificed himself for our sins (in my opinion), not Jesus Christ himself. He was very holy and a Bhagat and a Saint. A lot of if not the majority of what Christianity believes in has been made up by men (not Jesus Christ)after the departure of Jesus Christ. Same goes with Islam I think.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is followers of Jesus Christ who made him out to have sacrificed himself for our sins (in my opinion), not Jesus Christ himself. He was very holy and a Bhagat and a Saint. A lot of if not the majority of what Christianity believes in has been made up by men (not Jesus Christ)after the departure of Jesus Christ. Same goes with Islam I think.

He was a Brahmgyani and taught the world Fearless Love(Nirboah and Nirvair) through acceptance of matyrdom which is the gyan of god, accepting God's will(hukam) ('thy Will be done') no matter what(an Act of True unconditional love) ie. remaining psychologically at peace and in acceptance in any given situation, recognising god to be pervading everywhere in every action.

He taught seva, taught us to love our neighbour(the whole world) regardless of their sins and to see the holy spirit (naam/truth) in all (nirvair)- he asked god to forgive the sinners(the fools) for they 'know not what they do'- for they haven't considered the consequences of their actions.

He taught divine love and respect for the all pervading holy spirit (naam/Truth). He taught us to tell the truth, to love truth in action and to serve the truth.

Yes even the white skinned folk have been taught puran sat.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sadly we Sikhs don't have very knowledge of Abrahmic faiths specially Christanity and Jiddaism .

Died for our Sins ?

Means sacrifice himself strange, Sacrificing to please God is pakhand .

sacrificing to appease god is a pakhand lol may be sacrifice like mayans and others did yes, but wouldnt his sacrifice be like the sacrifice of guru tegh bahadur and guru arjan dev be the same, wasnt he also just giving his body back to God... wernt all shaheeds sacrificing themselves, their manmat their ego back to God appeasing to God, doesnt god want us to sacrifice ourselves back to him, and merge with him doesnt he want us to give up our egoes and manmats....becoming a sacrifice even once for god you get tremendous amounts of sukh in after life.. have you not read what guru gobind singh ji says about shaheed singhs....just because you doint think jesus was a bhagat that dont mean sacrifice to god is pakhand...that is the highest sacrifice

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Indeed jesus did set mankind a very good example to follow however the bible is corrupt there are many versions of it. The teachings contradict the message of Christianity, Jesus was basically a Sikh in all but name, a disciple of God. Being sacrificed for all our sins is nonsense, if that is the case i can go out sinning right now and he /God will forgive me time after time its a silly concept. Waheguru via Karma is the best judge either forgiving or punishing of our wrong past, present and future actions. The inherent human nature is to sin and learn from his experiences to know the difference what is right from wrong. This is where Sikhi is beautiful it teaches one to perfect their character, this false forgiveness of sins is a red herring because what is sin now wasnt sin back then and what is sin then isnt sin now in present times as society evolves.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jesus never went to India, etc. He was crucified and died. IMHO he was a phenomenal man who took a very practical look at religion and God. He was like Guru Nanak in that he addressed the absurdities of the religion that he was born into (especially ritualism). The religion built on Jesus has little resemblance to what he taught... as is the case with many religions. Divinity seems to be attributed to religious leaders after they die, and practical religions tend to get distorted and made complicated.... I think you can see this beginning to happen with the sikh religion as well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jesus never went to India, etc. He was crucified and died. IMHO he was a phenomenal man who took a very practical look at religion and God. He was like Guru Nanak in that he addressed the absurdities of the religion that he was born into (especially ritualism). The religion built on Jesus has little resemblance to what he taught... as is the case with many religions. Divinity seems to be attributed to religious leaders after they die, and practical religions tend to get distorted and made complicated.... I think you can see this beginning to happen with the sikh religion as well.

http://en.wikipedia....us_and_Buddhism

I do believe he went to India as I am positive Jesus traveled a lot before he reached his state of realization and started his mission of Truth (hence why his first 30 years are missing). One thing is for certain, a lot of Jesus' teachings of love your enemy are very similar to Buddha's teachings (they are Universal). This is a concept that isn't found in Judaism and the philosophies/religions of the area around the Roman empire/Israel.

I do agree, in Punjab a lot of changes are happening in an attempt to turn Sikhi into an outward show religion but in the end I think the west will save it. To be fair there is an organized effort to wipe out the saroop (appearance) and lifestyle in Punjab. We're very lucky to be blessed with freedom in the west (UK , USA, Canada ect.)

Each one of us has a big duty ahead of us.

Have a look at the few videos I posted, they're interesting food for thought. They aren't set in stone of course, but they do set more questions and present very plausible things that could have happened in terms of Jesus' calcification and travels to India.

I will find out the name of the book, but supposedly someone researching at a Buddhist temple found a scroll that recorded a white individual (probably a brahman/aryan) kicking out the Dalai Lama around the time when Jesus would have been 30ish for his teachings and his name was also something very similar to Jesus Christ.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • lol dal panth Panj told me explicitly not to associate with Vadhbhag Singh Sodhi followers!
    • We have lamp (or Jyot) the pure unscented candle for a reason. Traditionally, Patis used candle light (jyot), so they could read SGGS in darkness. Light, elec didn't exist. Dhoop is used to attract the "Good spirits" but also keep freshness where Maharaj will be.  Interestingly and coincidentally I heard Sakhi a few dsys ago. During Dasa Pitha's time these souls were roaming the Earth and even Sangat noticed. Maharaj asked them "y u here?" They replied during recitation of SGGS and making Degh they didn't bother lighting candle. THAT WAS THEE ONLY REASON NO GATI WAS GIVEN TO THEM!!!  AUTHENTICITY NOT CHECKED I heard once on YT like 2 days ago.  If u apply dhoop in one room of your house twice a week u will notice a difference esp in the smell and freshness of that room. 
    • Sangat ji, With the hot weather as per Guru's Hukm, how can we look after our kes?  First of all the beard! Working in Construction, factory and any other heated environment I UNDERSTAND! At my workplace it's over 32 degree celcius and sometimes we have to lift 20kg ALL! DAY! My tips, regularly shampoo the beard during ishnan. APPLY OIL! The technique of applying oil is by rubbing it thoroughly in the roots. Pay attention to the noise esp on the chin. You will hear this "crosh crosh" noise. Keep rubbing oil until u can't hear it no more! This means the oil has blended in properly.  Second tip on beard, keep an extra kanga in your pocket. Every two, three hours give your beard a proper comb down to get rid of any sweat or stickiness. SECOND BENEFIT! Do this all 12 months every single day your beard will look like it's been professionally groomed. TRY IT! People will ask you "What gel u use? How can yer beard be naturally like that?" You can say all I use is coconut oil or whaeva oil but just comb the beard every 2-3 hours for a minute.  As for the kes, morning time get rid of all the gronjra (or knots - forgotten English word), in the morning. However, during evening comb down make sure you get rid of small remaining gronjra and comb yer hair nice and straight. You will feel soooo so relaxed. Yes our hair will go unnoticed due to Dastar, but our hair demands time and self grooming!So proper combing down, spending a good 15-20 mins most evenings is an absolute MUST!  Most evenings I let my hair down and cover hair with my parna for 2-3 hours so it gets to relax from the tying up.  FINAL TIP! We are Sikhs so we keep fighting and remember this! The tradition of Dastar and uncut hair started in India, where the weather is twice as hot. Everytime we bring this thought in the mind, Guru ji will bless us and make us feel cooled down by a notch.  Fateh.       
    • Been so much nindya and attacking Shastarvidiya since the 2000s, however if we look at gatka now it's still mostly as poor and poorly taught as it was back then, still morris dancing moves and still behzti moves in BBC shows about sikhi and vaisakhi. If people were going to attack shastarvidiya, wouldn't have made sense to improve gatka instead and make it more effective? Additionally, the Nihang Singh presence has improved greatly now, and the cracks within the the SGPC and affiliated jatha jathebandis are showing more greatly as panth becomes more knowledgable with dasam bani and itihas day-by-day, so much gyaan which was lost within panjabi sikhs during colonial times. In the 2000s, the groups were able to talk down this bani and  gyaan by associating it with  RSS and hindus, brahminwaad etc. Not working so well now is it? However with gyaan it would be also good for us to try and preserve our martial arts and keertan vidiya as well! More and more crazy keertan videos are coming out from jatha members that are being made fun of and making sangat annoyed and upset, on tiktok and instagram reels.  
    • Author Posted April 24   On 4/21/2025 at 2:43 PM, ipledgeblue said: sirr should not be nanga because keski is usually worn.   Sikhs can sleep nanga-sirr if they choose to . Being from Punjab, almost every Sardaarji i know (amritdhari or not) sleeps/showers with their hair uncovered. I don't think Guru Sahib asked us to wear Dastar to sleep and I don't think it is in SRM.   The idea of "keski being worn to sleep" is cos in Bollywood films (Bachna Ae Haseeno) Sikh characters usually tie a gol parna when sleeping since the actor's usually Hindu. So they gotta cover his head somehow or he'd have cut hair. Same reason Diljit wore a pagg to bed in the El Sueno vid. Only time they didn't do that was in Gadar with Sunny Deol which just looked odd tbh   What in the world? What sikh or even a decent human would base their knowledge of their culture or religion on a movie industry, that too Bollywood?  Believe me, no sikh ever said, I must cover my head becasue an actor did so in a movie. I've been doing it all wrong, I must start covering mh head because the sikh in that movie did.  Just because every panjabi and sardaar you know, does something, also doesn't make it right..  Follow the guru. And if you have a medical condition, then exemptions can be made.  Just admit it, because of my medical condition, I am not able to follow this rehit. Why are you getting everyone else to drop to your level?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use