Bigotry, Racism And Intolerance

[N30S1NGH]

Not only we punjabis are racist but quite ungrateful ( fighting over small stuff/nitty/gritty stuff- always missing greater picture and bigger picture, feel that everyone owe us something, feel sense of entitlement) and hot headed too (may be because of diet as we only eat either rajas or tamas). Thanks to sikh forums on web that we actually can hold civil senstive conversation on underlining issue, trivial issue, sensitive issues in the panth without actually taking out kirpana and without swearing- bhen di, ma di..our sensors like- how we hyperventilate, anti hindu paranoia, anti muslim paranoia, anti panthic, manmat-gurmat- black and white, calling rss/bjp/congress blah blah blah are set quite high..!!!!!

We are quite paranoid bunch..lol

[Singh559]

Not only we punjabis are racist but quite ungrateful ( fighting over small stuff/nitty/gritty stuff- always missing greater picture and bigger picture, feel that everyone owe us something, feel sense of entitlement) and hot headed too (may be because of diet as we only eat either rajas or tamas). Thanks to sikh forums on web that we actually can hold civil senstive conversation on underlining issue, trivial issue, sensitive issues in the panth without actually taking out kirpana and without swearing- bhen di, ma di..our sensors like- how we hyperventilate, anti hindu paranoia, anti muslim paranoia, anti panthic, manmat-gurmat- black and white, calling rss/bjp/congress blah blah blah are set quite high..!!!!!

We are quite paranoid bunch..lol

Wasn't there a song that went something along the lines of, "Thora thora ja paranoia jaroor chaida"

..oh wait or was it...,"Thora thora ja hassna jaroor chaida".

Can't remember which. :lol2:

[N30S1NGH]

hahahaha ..lol good one singh ji :excited:

[N30S1NGH]

Because of punjabiyat, we could never have our own intelligence agency or secular/successful democratic country. Wait a minute, i m just trying to picture how our intelligence agency will look like- board of directors, employee all sound and fine, but when it comes to kick start- people in intelligence agency will run around like chickens with their head off fighting amongst themselves on policy of intelligence agency itself rather than focusing on outside projects!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And when it comes to running secular/successful democratic country, we won't even shake hands with diplomats of other countries, take part in dinner because of suchamta..lol

sorry above may be exaggeration but had to put it out there..!! lol

[N30S1NGH]

Here is another one guys:

Got this one from someone on facebook:

How spot a punjabiyat fanatic control freak hid behind sikh garb .

1. They will judge you on superficial things

2. They will always have some political agenda

3. Underneath they are materialistic

4. They have no heart only ideas

5. They divide and rule and fish for personal information

6. Gossip is one of their great skills.

7. They will demonise certain people or groups.

8 Hypocritical

9. They are there to 'save' you.

10. They want to own people - they will make your life a misery - Keep away from them -they are out of balance and untrue to themselves.

[VanHelsingh]

The Force is Strong In This One ^^^^ ... :biggrin2:

[DalbirSingh]

If we really want to preserve the sanctity of anand karaj and maharaj should we stop all sehajdharis from marrying or all monehs all punjabis and reserve anand karaj only for amritdharis if people denounce sikhi by cutting there hair further drinking and so on. Isn't a moneh a non sikh anyway. Maharaj in dasam bani is suggesting ekta of dharams.

There is a difference between a bigot and a racist you can be either one or both or neither they are mutually independent.

why have we been so late to stop this marriage, marriages like this have been happening for a very long time from baba khem singh bedi marrying his daughter into the bachans and so on till today and we promote them infront of children who carry on doing them. Are we wrong to stop that shouldn't sikhi be a choice as is with the children of such marriages to choose sikhi later on.

[DalbirSingh]

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How spot a punjabiyat fanatic control freak hid behind sikh garb

1. They will judge you on superficial things

Have to say it's a result of perfectionism, everyone can be critical sometimes just calling someone judgemental is a sign of not being able to take critcism

2. They will always have some political agenda

I think everyone has some form of political stance conservative, liberal, etc. some don't like poltics some do while others see polticis intertwined with sikhi from miri-piri concept hence the khalistan stand.

3. Underneath they are materialistic

Materialism someone has to put food on the table and pay the bills sadly money is the way things work. We shouldn't let it take over our life nor should we neglect finances, it's important to have financial security and stability but to avoid greed to the point one starts stealing kirt karna earning your honest living is good it's okay to earn your material.

4. They have no heart only ideas

Sometimes caring too much can hurt, feeling everyones pain can be a burden, it's good to have ideas they can help people. Mediocre minds speak about people great minds speak about ideas. But we need not only to speak about ideas but implement them as well they have more value then.

5. They divide and rule and fish for personal information

I think we can all be selective in people, in choose the people we need for the time and place we are in. Sangat is important and staying away from "bad" sangat to avoid bad ideas but it can awful what we may see as bad.

6. Gossip is one of their great skills.

What one might call gossip another calls news, sending news is important sikh sangat forum could be seen as a gossip station while others may see it as a constructive forum and platform to speak sikh issues, news and ideas we shouldn't frown upon it, it's where we have to stand for our determiniation and future.

7. They will demonise certain people or groups.

Demonising or "profiling" is done by everyone all the time sometimes doesn't work and we need redefinitions to it, generalisation is something we do no mater how much we deny it.

8 Hypocritical

Hypocrisy is done by all it's hypocrisy in itself to deny it, we can try to mend our ways for the better only we know what we do wrong and we shouldn't be in denial if we accept it only then can we hope to improve ourselves.

9. They are there to 'save' you.

The saviour attitude is everywhere I think sometimes we all look for a saviour and a role model, for some of us we didn't have role models so we try to shape ourselves as one to help others. It's okay not to judge them and to see what we can learn how they can help us to provoke thought.

10. They want to own people - they will make your life a misery - Keep away from them -they are out of balance and untrue to themselves.

When anyone makes your life a misery you need to walk away but only we control our own minds and we do it to ourselves, we have to right to read a book to watch a movie in our own freedoms. Unbalance is everywhere finding equilibrium is a lengthy process.

[Borat]

Here is gurbani address to the above:

ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ ॥

प्रभाती ॥

Parbẖāṯī.

Prabhaatee:

ਅਵਲਿ ਅਲਹ ਨੂਰੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਕੇ ਸਭ ਬੰਦੇ ॥

अवलि अलह नूरु उपाइआ कुदरति के सभ बंदे ॥

Aval alah nūr upā▫i▫ā kuḏraṯ ke sabẖ banḏe.

First, Allah created the Light; then, by His Creative Power, He made all mortal beings.

ਏਕ ਨੂਰ ਤੇ ਸਭੁ ਜਗੁ ਉਪਜਿਆ ਕਉਨ ਭਲੇ ਕੋ ਮੰਦੇ ॥੧॥

एक नूर ते सभु जगु उपजिआ कउन भले को मंदे ॥१॥

Ėk nūr ṯe sabẖ jag upji▫ā ka▫un bẖale ko manḏe. ||1||

From the One Light, the entire universe welled up. So who is good, and who is bad? ||1||

ਲੋਗਾ ਭਰਮਿ ਨ ਭੂਲਹੁ ਭਾਈ ॥

लोगा भरमि न भूलहु भाई ॥

Logā bẖaram na bẖūlahu bẖā▫ī.

O people, O Siblings of Destiny, do not wander deluded by doubt.

ਖਾਲਿਕੁ ਖਲਕ ਖਲਕ ਮਹਿ ਖਾਲਿਕੁ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਸ੍ਰਬ ਠਾਂਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

खालिकु खलक खलक महि खालिकु पूरि रहिओ स्रब ठांई ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Kẖālik kẖalak kẖalak mėh kẖālik pūr rahi▫o sarab ṯẖāʼn▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o.

The Creation is in the Creator, and the Creator is in the Creation, totally pervading and permeating all places. ||1||Pause||

ਮਾਟੀ ਏਕ ਅਨੇਕ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਕਰਿ ਸਾਜੀ ਸਾਜਨਹਾਰੈ ॥

माटी एक अनेक भांति करि साजी साजनहारै ॥

Mātī ek anek bẖāʼnṯ kar sājī sājanhārai.

The clay is the same, but the Fashioner has fashioned it in various ways.

ਨਾ ਕਛੁ ਪੋਚ ਮਾਟੀ ਕੇ ਭਾਂਡੇ ਨਾ ਕਛੁ ਪੋਚ ਕੁੰਭਾਰੈ ॥੨॥

ना कछु पोच माटी के भांडे ना कछु पोच कु्मभारै ॥२॥

Nā kacẖẖ pocẖ mātī ke bẖāʼnde nā kacẖẖ pocẖ kumbẖārai. ||2||

There is nothing wrong with the pot of clay - there is nothing wrong with the Potter. ||2||

ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਸਚਾ ਏਕੋ ਸੋਈ ਤਿਸ ਕਾ ਕੀਆ ਸਭੁ ਕਛੁ ਹੋਈ ॥

सभ महि सचा एको सोई तिस का कीआ सभु कछु होई ॥

Sabẖ mėh sacẖā eko so▫ī ṯis kā kī▫ā sabẖ kacẖẖ ho▫ī.

The One True Lord abides in all; by His making, everything is made.

ਹੁਕਮੁ ਪਛਾਨੈ ਸੁ ਏਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ਬੰਦਾ ਕਹੀਐ ਸੋਈ ॥੩॥

हुकमु पछानै सु एको जानै बंदा कहीऐ सोई ॥३॥

Hukam pacẖẖānai so eko jānai banḏā kahī▫ai so▫ī. ||3||

Whoever realizes the Hukam of His Command, knows the One Lord. He alone is said to be the Lord's slave. ||3||

ਅਲਹੁ ਅਲਖੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ਲਖਿਆ ਗੁਰਿ ਗੁੜੁ ਦੀਨਾ ਮੀਠਾ ॥

अलहु अलखु न जाई लखिआ गुरि गुड़ु दीना मीठा ॥

Alhu alakẖ na jā▫ī lakẖi▫ā gur guṛ ḏīnā mīṯẖā.

The Lord Allah is Unseen; He cannot be seen. The Guru has blessed me with this sweet molasses.

SGGS ANG 1349-1350

I'm sorry DalbirSingh but I strongly object to the inclusion of any mention of Allah in the Sikh scriptures. Muslims have siezed on this and used this as some sort of proof that Sikhs should convert to Islam because they acknowledge Allah.

Allah is a fabrication made by a peadophile, rapist, thief, warlord (Muhammad), purely to further his own materialistic and political desires.

It is a mockery of all things Sikh to include anything associated with such a despicable person.

[HKaur16]

I'm sorry DalbirSingh but I strongly object to the inclusion of any mention of Allah in the Sikh scriptures. Muslims have siezed on this and used this as some sort of proof that Sikhs should convert to Islam because they acknowledge Allah.

Allah is a fabrication made by a peadophile, rapist, thief, warlord (Muhammad), purely to further his own materialistic and political desires.

It is a mockery of all things Sikh to include anything associated with such a despicable person.

Allah is a name for Akal Purakh Waheguru Ji.

ਬਾਬਾ ਅਲਹੁ ਅਗਮ ਅਪਾਰੁ ॥

Bābā alhu agam apār.

O Baba, the Lord Allah is Inaccessible and Infinite.

Ang 53

ਅਲਾਹੁ ਅਲਖੁ ਅਗੰਮੁ ਕਾਦਰੁ ਕਰਣਹਾਰੁ ਕਰੀਮੁ ॥

Alāhu alakẖ agamm kāḏar karanhār karīm.

He is Allah, the Unknowable, the Inaccessible, All-powerful and Merciful Creator.

Ang 64

ਅਲਹੁ ਗੈਬੁ ਸਗਲ ਘਟ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਲੇਹੁ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥

Alhu gaib sagal gẖat bẖīṯar hirḏai leho bicẖārī.

Allah is hidden in every heart; reflect upon this in your mind.

Ang 483

ਕੋਈ ਸੇਵੈ ਗੁਸਈਆ ਕੋਈ ਅਲਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Ko▫ī sevai gus▫ī▫ā ko▫ī alāhi. ||1||

Some serve Him as 'Gusain', others as 'Allah'. ||1||

Ang 885

ਏਕੋ ਅਲਹੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥੫॥੩੪॥੪੫॥

Ėko alhu pārbarahm. ||5||34||45||

The Muslim God Allah and the Hindu God Paarbrahm are one and the same. ||5||34||45||

Ang 897

Therefore that is quite an ignorant thing to say. Allah and Waheguru are the same. You may disagree with Islam and Muhammad but Allah is another name for Waheguru. Muslims may use Allah for different purposes. But for a Sikh, Allah is another word for Waheguru like God, Ram etc. So its disrespectful to say anything towards the name Allah.