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It's bit of reverse psychology we may want to try it as we have already tried other venues, at this point- worst thing we can do against missionary dhunda/anti dasam is protest in the gurdwaras against him as it gives dhunda enough ammu to use for his advantage- play victim and exploit the whole situation and ultimately gain credibility in ignorant masses. I think this poster above with list of gurdwaras speaks for itself- just look at it- the way so many gurdwaras are promoting him speaks volume- he is living legend to them.. Had we just ignored this fool, gave him no attention whatsoever we wouldn't have seen such crazy revolt spike of gurdwaras promoting him, he clearly playing victim role, he was able to exploit the whole situation and gain sympathy and gain backing- because we let him with our useless personal attacks against him as opposed to his idea, because of outright sheer parchar against him which made him look like victim and he was able to change public opinion, gain sympathy...!!!

And that goes out to all situations when any cult leader is attacked, they gain 100 times more credibility in masses, its a fact- as any cult leader or its followers- use that character assassination attack to play victim, gain sympathy and credibility ..they are able to change wind course (change public opinion) to their advantage.

Our best best- ignore this fool- avoid any interaction with him, use all our energy keep lobying sri akaal takth sahib jathedar, among other takth jathedars and sgpc against him and try to invoke statement from sri akaal takth jathedar and other takth jathedars against him and keep encouraging sgpc/sri akaal takth jathedars to own a sikh media to become one sikh voice for all- owning media changes everything slowly and surely will change public opinion....!!!!!!!!

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for how long will it be chase after dhunda ? every country he goes singhs have to do a morcha....im from CA, all the Cali sangat get together and inform all those you know to protest against such rouge missionaries......well in india ppl seem to not care look at this mans fb page https://www.facebook.com/NIRVAIL ...all the support hes getting hundreds of likes.......he was on a stage in novemembr and out of all ppl nihang baba nihal singh ji tarna dal wale harien belan were on stage with him sitting behind and they also did katha their the photo is below, nihangs were in sangat

any tips from UK sangat on dealing with these situationsm....contacting the gurdwaras, emailing, gathering sangat for a protest, what were the lessons to be learned from UK ?

we can not let him on the stages of california,,,not many people know hes coming yet causing a lack in protest....and his presence gathers support for him and his sweet posion will be awaiting the sangat soon after then

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Looking at the photos above....it doesn't seem like Dhundha would've spoken against Sri Dasam Granth Saheb infront of so many Nihung Singhs.

I do not think they are Nihung singhs. California especially northern california has a tradition not let such heretics to address sangat in gurdwaras.

Gurcharan jeonwala could not address sangat even in a mountain mike pizza joint and he had to run away.

Dhundha has committed major sins by criticizing

Jaap sahib with a stick by hiding his face like a coward which he is

He has passed very bad remarks on kirtan from Darbar sahib.

http://sikhsangat.org/2009/dasam-granth-detractors-fail-to-hold-seminar-in-california/

Dasam Granth Detractors Fail To Hold Seminar In California6

SSNews August 24, 2009 America, OP-ED

Bay Area, California: It was announced by some missionaries of bay area that an anti dasam Granth seminar was being held at Hayward, California today Aug 22, 2009.

Keynote speaker was one Gurcharan Jeonwala and Parminder Parmar who use filthy language for banis of Dasam pita. A large number of Gursikhs gathered at Gurudwara sahib Fremont and were to march to the venue of seminar for protest. Kala afghana cult sensed that and they changed the venue at last minute to a restaurant in San Jose, CA a distance of 15 miles from Hayward. Singhs reached there and found they did not turn up there as well.They were contacted on the phone and said they had canceled the seminar due to massive opposition.

Singhs wanted to speak to Gurnindak Jeonwala but they were keeping him in hiding. This was a miserable failure for anti Sikh cult to hold a seminar after calling the speakers from Canada. It shows that these people are internet tigers and have no following on ground. May waheguru bless Gursikhs who resisted the attempt of these heretics to denounce bani of tenth master.

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It was announced by some missionaries of bay area that an anti dasam Granth seminar was being held at hayward, California today Aug 22, 2009.

Keynote speaker was one Gurcharan Jeonwala and parminder parmar who use filthy language for banis of Dasam pita. A large number of Gursikhs gathered at Gurudwara sahib Fremont and were to march to the venue of seminar for protest. Kala afghana cult sensed that and they changed the venue at last minute to a restaurant in San jose, CA a distance of 15 miles from Hayward.Singhs reached there and found they did not turn up there as well.They were contacted on the phone and said they had cancelled the seminar due to massive opposition.

Singhs wanted to speak to Gurnindak Jeonwala but they were keeping him in hiding. This was a miserable failure for anti sikh cult to hold a seminar after calling the speakers from canada. It shows that these people are internet tigers and have no following on ground. May waheguru bless Gursikhs who resisted the attempt of these heretics to denounce bani of tenth master.

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The best route to stop these people from coming is to get straight to youth (kids) of those who attend places like Dakota Gurdwara where committee keep doing besti of sangat by calling people like darshan, afghana and bhupinder.

Send the message to the youth that these people are spreading hate, spewing venom against bani and causing divisions in the panth and they will also realize that these old pindoo people the ones who are wrong by calling these people.

Some of these people call people like darshoo and dhunda just because they find it funny that Singhs are protesting and like to "annoy" people.

This is ridiculous and I knew this would happen./

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Rather than just protesting or showing frustration, what are other good ways to bring awareness to our people?

Rather than targeting managements, how can we educate our people about this controversial preacher?

Dhunda is showing up in Stockton historical gurdwara, Fremont (SF bay gurdwara) and tracy gurdwara which is few miles away from Damdami taksal US headquarters.

*our people = regular folks who are at beginner level of Sikh religion.

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Rather than just protesting or showing frustration, what are other good ways to bring awareness to our people?

Rather than targeting managements, how can we educate our people about this controversial preacher?

Dhunda is showing up in Stockton historical gurdwara, Fremont (SF bay gurdwara) and tracy gurdwara which is few miles away from Damdami taksal US headquarters.

*our people = regular folks who are at beginner level of Sikh religion.

We need to get youth who are cool minded to form peaceful jathas and approach the Gurdwaras. Once the discussion starts in Punjabi all the uncles jump in and do their usual bull.

If we can talk in English very cooly and logically portraying ourselves as being educated and level minded we can have the best chance to convince the sangat against these heretics.

We should have information with exactly what the facts are surrounding the blasphemous remarks and an iPad or computer there with speakers to show people easily what they say.

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califronia singhs contact all other sevadars, friends, local leaders that you know,

first contact the comitees that alloud him keyar them.....ask them why have they brought those individuals who cause violence, problems, issues and disturbance wherever he makes his presence and for the safety of the community and our temlpes he should not be aloud

then which ever city he goes to, go to the police stations there launch a complaint and work in getting the police contacting the gurdwara and working in a shut down of the event.....explain to them the tense situation

arrange protest in which gurdwras have coaches going to down protest, flyers, online propaganda all needs to be done

ALL CALIFORNIA SINGHS READING THIS RIGHT NOW MESSAGE ME AND CONTACT YOUR PEERS ETC AND GURDWARAS TO STOP THIS----CALL THE GURDWARAS SPONSERING HIM, EMAIL THEM GO TO THEIR FACEBOOK PAGES, ILL ADD ALL THEIR INFO UP ON HERE AND WE MUST DO THIS FOR THE RESPECT OF OUR GURU

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Does anyone near fresno know why selma gurudawra invites such heretics.Earlier ragi darshan also was invited by them.

In my view some disgruntled elements of sikh youth like jaswant hothi are instrumental in calling him to stcokton.There are stauch singhs of taksal at this gurudwara but they are simple folks and new president is friend of hothi.

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Paaji.. Why dont you get a singh well versed in adi granthvand dasam granth and debate him.....if you have no one then challenge him to a date and we can sponser someone from uk to debate with him....to be honest im from a poor family but i can give 50 pounds for a gursikh to go challenge him and if 10.ppl can give same anount thats enough for ticket... And youbsinghs in america can giv that person accomodation....

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well the calmest way to do it is - to just put a really smelly stinkbomb up in his kurta or something as he's about to go on stage - and detonate the stink bomb remotely-. simple really - forget about protests that makes you and us look like fools in the eyes of the general public.

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well the calmest way to do it is - to just put a really smelly stinkbomb up in his kurta or something as he's about to go on stage - and detonate the stink bomb remotely-. simple really - forget about protests that makes you and us look like fools in the eyes of the general public.

MEGA LOL...CLASSIC BRO..!!! :lol: :lol:

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