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[SunSingh]

Singh ji, I'll tell you straight up, that spending time in sangat builds up sharda very quickly. That energy from sangat provides a great deal of support.

Also, if you do 7 hours of simran in amritvela, and another person goes to Guru's hazoori and does one hour of amritvela simran japping naam with 15 other Gursikhs, who do you think gained greater spiritual benefit???

Ring up one of those sants, tell them everything openly and honestly. Share your frustrations. I know it can be frightening, but if you don't do it you may look back a year from now and regret how much time you wasted not knowing what to do.

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I also wanted to add, that there is a GIANT difference between casually asking simran questions from a sant and having them help manage your simran. If you find ONE to help manage your simran you can move forward faster. Ask that sant for a simran jugti to help you progress faster.

[Guest Moorakh]

Misconceptions about Gurbani teachings are widely spread throughout the Sikh community. All these misconceptions of Gurbani are spread because there is a lack of dedication and strive to read and understand what the Gurus and Bhagats have written in Gurbani. The person who started the thread has been on the correct track of complete focus on Gurbani. In Gurbani, we are told to develop a deep yearning for the experience of seeing Vaheguru. Another yearning Gurbani tells us to have is for seeing his Hukam.

Looking at the misconceptions from the Sikh community, they have not even begun to understand what his Hukam and what Vaheguru is. They rise up and go out into the world thinking they are following Gurbani as they did not "hide" in a room and do bhagti. Before a child can walk, he needs to learn what walking is. The Sikh community has completely missed this first step and rather have told the Gurus what they think walking is.

Those who sit in a room for years to understand Gurbani are stronger as they are not afraid of what Gurbani will tell them to do against their minds wishes. Those who have gone out in the world. How many of you have lied to cover the truth? How many have cheated to get ahead? How many have gone against the teachings of Gurbani because it was the easy way out of a situation? You have not stepped out into the world, if you had then you would not have lied, cheated, and gone against the teachings of Gurbani. What you have done is made a false impression that you have gone into the world. Guru Nanak Dev ji did not go out in the world and lie, cheat and go against Shabad Guru and neither did he tell the Sadhus to go out in the world to lie, cheat, and go aganst Gurbani. History says the Gurus did a lot of bhagti before walking in the world. History also tells us the Gurus and Bhagats got others to do bhagti along with them. What filth can you clean out in the world when the filth in you is your guide?

A blind man needs a guide before he can walk out of his room successfully.

[2128]

Kojath Kojath sunee eih soe, Saadh sangat bin tareyoh n koee

By searching and seeking, I have heard this news.

That without doing the sangat of sadhu, the company of the holy, no one swims across.

[Guest sikh]

to get true bhagti you need to follow guru sahib as bani says without the satguru you cant do bhagti. Now folliowing guru sahib means following his hukams, one of those is to do kirtat (earn an honest living) (obviously you would include studying in this). You have not followed this crucial hukam of satguru, so how can your bhagti be parvaan (accepted)? Guru Sahib is most impressed with those who can do bhagti while they live in this world, working to earn money to live and to help others. I heard a gursikh once say something along the lines that bhagti done where there are less gursikhs/ less good conditions for doing bhagti, counts as more weighty than bhagti done in conditions where bhagti is easy. So you should show guru sahib you can do bhagti in difficult circumstances, eg. working in a job/studying.

ਘਾਲਿ ਖਾਇ ਕਿਛੁ ਹਥਹੁ ਦੇਇ ॥

Ghaal Khaae Kishh Hathhahu Dhaee ||

घालि खाइ किछु हथहु देइ ॥

One who works for what he eats, and gives some of what he has

ਨਾਨਕ ਰਾਹੁ ਪਛਾਣਹਿ ਸੇਇ ॥੧॥

Naanak Raahu Pashhaanehi Saee ||1||

नानक राहु पछाणहि सेइ ॥१॥

- O Nanak, he knows the Path. ||1||

[2128]

Dhan Dhan Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji has told us to do sangat twice a day. To obtain something, it is very essential to do sangat atleast once a day. Maharaj sits hajar najar waiting for his child everyday, but his child is so busy that he hardly comes once a week just for 2 hours, more likely it looks like that his child just comes for formality. Therefore how can the child gain spiritual wisdom from his beloved. This is just an example, it does not apply to everyone, I know many gursikhs who do sangat everyday so do many on this forum.

Singh Ji, I respect and bow down to your kamai and the discipline you had kept towards your daily abiyaas.

I remember a bachan of a sadhu, he was telling that when you first come to guru granth sahib ji akaal purkh and when you start understanding gurbani, maharaj gives direction to go and meet a puran sadhu, then the puran sadhu guide you through your spiritual path and tells you how to connect to guru granth sahib ji akaal purkh with pure love. Pure love is taught by a sadhu, etc.

It maybe seeming funny to you, but maharaj actually tells us that, go and meet a sadhu who understands me, a sadhu who will guide you on the spiritual path and he will make you so strong that your duality will be gone by that time. A puran sadhu will never tell you to follow him, he will always tell you to bow infront of sahib sri guru granth sahib ji maharaj.

So its like you go to >Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj, then Maharaj Ji Sends you to >a sadhu, then after a sadhu guides you on the spiritual path and tells you about all the obstacles and harmful thing you can face while do bhagti, then > after you merge with waheguru sadhu will tell you, my job is done and he will send you to > sahib sri guru granth sahib ji. When I say, a sadhu will send you to maharaj ji, I meant that after giving all teachings of the spirtual path the Sadhu then sends you to > Maharaj Ji.

[2128]

I Agree with Sunsingh

[jio]

These are the best adives I've ever heard!!!!!!!!!

Mushrrom Ji Just like sunsingh said ask one sant to help you how tell them what your planing to do or your mind wants you to do, yes its hard and youll feel ashamed but whats the worse thing that could happen. THEN do ardass

dont just give up bro no point !!!!

[jio]

Wow you are an abhiasee, that is very rare nowadays. You have been so committed unitil now so don't let anything in the world put you off. I will tell you why you haven't had darshan yet. Nobody, not you or me or anyone, NOBODY knows how much 'filth' we had in our last lifetime. The more filth/gandgi you had in the last life, the more time it will take to wash it. I have heard people who start seeing stuff in 8months, and others up to lifetimes. It can take however long maharaj wants it to take, 6months/1 year/10years/50years.....Don't rush okay, you have been blessed to be given the jugti of abhiaas which is so and people like me do not even have the wish/hope to do it, yet you have the thirst, which is also a great blessing so take it thankfully, and continue to do so until one day you do get darshan. Also, to help you slightly, sometimes going to Amritsar sahib/hemkunt sahib has helped peoples avastha so maybe you could try that too., the best of luck to you

THIS IS TRUE TOO BRO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you might have alot of flith on you