AmritDhari IM THINKING ABOUT DRUGS

[Gurpreet14]

Suppose some girl falls in luv with u.....but u dont luv her

She tries hard to convince u about how much she luv u.... She does whatever u like ....

One fine day u also starts luving her....but that till that time girl looses her patience n she decides to move away from u

Her heart broken n she starts doing all wrong stuffs

One day when u finally decide to tell her that yes u also luv her.... But unfortunately after seeing the condition of that girl ur heart brokes

So now what will u do or think????? Let me know what will be ur reaction....compare this with luv not god....

Now what step u will take...leave her or will still luv her??

[luckysingh99]

Mushrooms or mescaline are all good short term fun.

yes, with some acid you will have an experience and it does wake up neurons in your brain that have never been stimulated.

Some even feel more spiritual and connected when they have them and I remember feeling that.

But they don't ever just stop there.

I have NEVER ever known anyone who has no regrets for ever taking drugs.

They fool you at first and then they slowly take over you like the devil.

I can't stop you trying them , but Guruji warns us not to take anything that affects our mind and senses.

The mind is victim to the 5 thieves even when it is completely sober or soffee.

it is never ever worth it.

You are getting this feeling out of anger because you feel God owes you one for all your simran effort.

Now, that you have not experienced anything you feel betrayed and like a loser.

In Sikhi the relationship with God is NOT about give and take.

It is not like you need to be rewarded.

You really need to read Gurbani to understand.

If you don't understand now, you will in months or years to come if you go away and play with your body.

You will enjoy the short term highs and hits and then eventually God will make you realise your foolishness and you will be begging him for forgiveness.

Then you will come back and realise what I am saying here.

It's up to you to choose your path, but I can guarantee you will come back to this same starting point and wish you had not taken it.

Guru Nanak ji advised that we shouldn't be doing bhagti whilst locked away from the world.

He made it clear that one should be finding the Lord within whilst living in society as a householder who studies, works and earns.

The other problem you have is that you have locked yourself away and you don't even know yourself anymore.

If you went back out into the real world, you will come across people who are left behind,

Then you will realise how the meditation and simran has put you ahead with some understanding that they don't get !!

Go out and try it !

[Guest seiker]

To the original OP,

If you provide me more details regarding your sadhana, we might be able to help you. I am hinting at how strong your rehat was, did you maintain utmost brahmcharya etc etc.

Have you noticed a change in your thought pattern?

How were you doing bhagti, what were you chanting etc.

Dont say that your time has been wasted, saying waheguru for a split second doesnt go waste, you have spent two years. Tell more about your experience those two years. Sometimes, you get subtle signs.

And read some jeevans of Mahapurakhs to learn bit about ego/ahankar and handle it as well

[simran345]

Yep lucky paji is right, gristhi jeevan also.

Op you sound like me locked away, but me without the bhagti bit or the yoga bit. God has given you wat you need to do in this life, why are you locking yourself away especially in this day n age, you are young too so should be happy not lock yourself away from the world.

You have the chance to sit in sangat, go and do that you will enjoy it. Maybe hard to adjust to, but slowly you will adapt.

Take small steps, then few bigger ones to mix back again into the world. I remember when i didn't go out for 5yrs out the house and a lady used to come to take me out first for 5mins, then 10, then half hour every time she came. It was very hard but i did it. That's wat you will need to do, dont hibernate it will be harder the longer you leave it. Sangat is important too, dont deny that if you are able to partake in it.

[Guest baaj]

Rick strassman MD psychatrist did research on DMT where most of the volunteer subjects had temporary high only last 15-30 min after injecting. Most of the volunteers after 2years of follow up for change in quality of life ended up back in therapy meaning back to shrink probably for life.

[SunSingh]

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ, ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤੇ|

I am 19 years old, I dont have a job I dont study. When i finished school 2 years ago I wanted to start my bugty and achieve something I always since i was a kid wanted to excperience something something beatiful, experience Waheguru ji if you want to say that.

I gave up Uni and my parents made a room for me to do simran in. I told them after 2 years if idont achieve anything ill become whatever they want me to become.

I have done simran for 2 years now as i said . I havent talked to anyone havebt watched tv just stayed in my house. Not even gudhwara sahib. I woke up at 1:30 did eshnaan and did simran till 3pm 13hrs a day and had 3 hours rest 6pm ill do rehras ansd do yoga exerise plus simran to keep body well and start simran untill 8pm then sleep.

I can with high spirits say I HAVE HAD NOTHING NO EXPERIENCE. I am going to do Mushrooms for tge time i have wasted and experience something at least or im am going to smoke DMT. DMT is a big one I am going to do it

I am amritdhari so I want to stay disaplined i dont want to break my amrit but i want a experience i need one I cant explain it. Im REALLY DESPRATE otherwise its suicide thats my other choice NO JOKE!!!!!!!!

What do i do ????? (please dont judge me)

You have made some mistakes, but that is ok. You're young and clearly have a lot of discipline.

-The first mistake is thinking that high levels of spirituality = spiritual experience. That's not at all true. I know people who are at lower levels who have spiritual things happen and people who are at higher levels whose experience is gareebi. This reminds of of Sant Ishar Singh ji.

A person was repeatedly asking sant ji about what kinds of spiritual experiences they had. After a few requests Sant ji finally responded by placing his hazooria at that person's feet and saying 'gareebi'. True gareebi is one of the ultimate experiences on this path.

The avastha can be seen more by the lack of vikaars than by experiences.

-The second mistake is doing bhagti alone. When we go to have darshan of Guru Granth Sahib ji or a puran sant they adjust our spiritual energy and help us move forward much more quickly. Additionally, doing simran with sangat will let you move forward more quickly.

-3, when we don't do kirt than a big chunk of our kamai goes to those who are supporting us. You don't have to do it if you truly want to dedicate yourself 100% to bhagti, but i'm just mentioning this so you know. I've spoken to singhs living in deras and one of them mentioned that he has noticed people who live off of sangats' kirt kamai move forward much more slowly. Most people don't know this, but many sants living in deras do a great deal of seva, including doing their own kethi etc. Others actually do their kirt, or are retired from a lifetime of kirt. For example, Baba Thakur Singh ji Bhindrenvale used to do kethi as his kirt.

Another related thing, seva is incredibly important as it removes obstacles from the path of simran.

-4, do you have a sant to guide you? Did a purakh who is much further along on this path teach you how to simran in a more effective way (ie give you a jugti for simran)?? The guidance of a sant is exceptionally important on the advanced stages of this path. "Modern" people poo poo the idea just like those who are even more "modern" poo poo the idea of needing Amrit, but both are requirements if you wish to become one with God.

PM me if you have specific questions and want some more advice.

[Guest karm]

i completely agree with sunsingh! you should have a saint that guides you!

i think you need to look for a saint! i m sure he will help you.....

[sat]

U need to live/accept waheguru ji's panna (will), but by taking drugs you will clearly show that you do not accept his will that he does not want to give u darshan etc yet, its not a competition where you do so much meditation etc and you will win a prize.

Sikhi is about living under gods will and not looking for rewards in this world or the next , (Nishkam seva) but just loving his lotus feet !

[savinderpalsingh]

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa !! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh !!

Waheguru ji.

maybe you had lot of previous janams pararabdh and it reduced a lot in 2 years

keep going also do beant sewa and jap in sangat . sangat is most essential part dont miss out on it.

also smoking isnt going to help you . if you want to smoke . Smoke lords name

maybe he is testing you .

as i said lot of your karm's of previous life got cut. please keep going and stay with sangat + do simran while ur at it .

nishkam sewa you will get fal dont worry . just do not miss sangat

[Guest hhhh]

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