Hard Kaur Hurts Sikh Sentiments, Turns Abusive At Chandigarh Show

[jandialvi]

It wont mean anything if she appoligises. Im sure her pr team will get her to do that depending on if any uproar arises. I would like to hear the views from artists such as Jazzy and Aman Hayer who have worked with her.

[sat]

Can someone explain to me why guys from UK are soo girly? Sorry, this is totally off topic.

I dont know the kind of guys you have met from the uk, but if i see her or her mother on soho road they will get a good slap thats for sure!! :angry2:

Just read the comments on facebook from hard up guys in india who cant get a woman, who see this tramp in tight trousers and high heels and there tongues come out like dogs !! :no:

https://www.facebook.com/officialhardkaurworld?hc_location=timeline

[Mehtab Singh]

Facebook ? What a place to apologize !

[JasSinghKhalsa]

I take a different approach to this matter. We have every right to be offended by her childish/offensive act but lets seek clarification on her intent- may be she was under influence of drugs..Lets try to see this from all angles. Even worst criminal on this planet deserve a fair trial, deserve to give their side and besides our own sikh faith have classic examples in our history -shows an potential of sinner turned saint even goodness takes over..worst sinners becoming saints by guru maharaj grace- kauda rakshash (cannibal demon), sajjan thug (theif), gangka papan (past /former kanjirir turned into saint).

We need to practice more restraint and be more collective, grounded, focused, calm in our response when pursuing such matters , not just because its politically correct thing to do but our whole faith founded on first principle of "dya" - compassion, here in this thread sadly we have shown anything but dya there are already calls to beat her, hoping she goes to narak etc.

If her intent are malicious and she compared sri guru gobind singh ji with someone to offend, she will get her share of bad karams, she will pay for it in her unique way but vahiguroo ji is not only garab gajinan (destroyer of ego and destroyer of sinner but also embodiment of dya- compassion) if offender repents and feel remorse for her actions she will forgiven in maharaj darbar as Guru Sada Bakshanda hai !!

Sure we can pursue legal means if worst comes to worst but first thing to do is to seek this matter sensibly to find out her intent and try her to integrate back into our sikh society.

And those who call her w hore , kanjiri and other labels just remember this, when tables are turned- we are all w hores in our own way when we seek worldly materials over guru maharaj love, bhagti-naam, gyan and seva..!!

Views Endorsed ... Well said ...

[JSinghnz]

Views Endorsed ... Well said ...

On one hand, " I am new to this topic, is there a Video of what all she did???" and nek minit,

"Views Endorsed ... Well said ...".

Always better to know the facts before endorsing any views.

[lsingh]

She is just one of the Punjab 'artist' that have degraded the culture of Punjab to filth, the whole lot need to think about what they do and say. Even the older artists glorifying drinking Sharab and equating it to the Punjab like Gurdas Mann and Dharminder sons , smoking and carrying out immoral acts in films.

The makers of Sadda Haq were told there was no market for a film that covered serious issues and that Punjabis only liked the nonsense films that are produced. How wrong they were. I am not against good films and songs , but degenerate lyrics and mocking Sikhs by alleged 'Sikhs' are not on.

Its sad that 'Hard Kaurs' father was murdered by a Hindu mob in the 1984 Genocide in the Indian City of Kanpur. She should know better

It would be good if the current awareness encourages some intelligent culture from the Punjabi community.

[MKaur89]

What she did and said is without a doubt 100% wrong and I am not condoning it in any way, but I just looked at the comments on her Facebook apology status and so many disgusting comments have been left by people who have 'Singh' in their name.

There are many ways to get your opinion across but since when do two wrongs make a right? There are 'Singhs' on Facebook using the most foul swear words, writing immoral things about her mother (and what they would do to her mother), someone (not a Singh) condoning the fact that Hard Kaur's ex-husband was physically abusive to her (that's never acceptable no matter the woman is like). One Singh suggested smashing up her mum's shop in Birmingham. What a joke.

What Hard Kaur did and said is gravely wrong, and a public apology on Facebook is not enough for her to wash her hands of this matter. But by people using the most vile swear words and talking in a derogatory way about her and her mother, she is not going to learn anything or repent. As a girl, it's so shameful to read some of the comments these Singhs have left.

All of us have mothers, sisters, daughters and just think if they made a mistake we would still not want anyone to talk down to them like that. Instead we would explain the error of their ways to them with love and humility. Another thing is that nowadays when anything happens, it's funny how Joe Public becomes judge and jury of everything.

Leave the judging and punishment-giving up to Guru Ji, for only he is worthy of this. As an aside, in the Bible it mentions "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" in reference to the story that a woman who committed adultery was sentenced to death by stoning and Jesus said whoever has not sinned shall cast the first stone and of course all those people present were, in some way or another, sinners and Christians believe it is only Jesus who is free from sin, so only he is worthy to cast the first stone. But he didn't and the woman was forgiven after she repented. Let's not turn this into a debate about Christianity or Jesus, as I follow neither path except the true path of Sikhi, I just wanted to back up the point I was making. Forget that this is a Christian story and just contemplate on the moral of the story, as this moral is applicable to people of all faiths and all mankind. Below are similar references from Gurbani.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji, ang 61:

ਭੁਲਣ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਅਭੁਲੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਕਰਤਾਰੁ ॥

Bhulan Andhar Sabh Ko Abhul Guroo Karathaar ||

Everyone makes mistakes; only the Guru and the Creator are infallible.

Bhagat Ravidas Ji, ang 93:

ਜਉ ਪੈ ਹਮ ਨ ਪਾਪ ਕਰੰਤਾ ਅਹੇ ਅਨੰਤਾ ॥

Jo Pai Ham N Paap Karanthaa Ahae Ananthaa ||

If I did not commit any sins, O Infinite Lord,

ਪਤਿਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਨਾਮੁ ਕੈਸੇ ਹੁੰਤਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Pathith Paavan Naam Kaisae Hunthaa ||1|| Rehaao ||

How would You have acquired the name, 'Redeemer of sinners'? ||1||Pause||

[jandialvi]

Her father was a sharabi that died due from alcohol. Her mother came to this country on asylum and made the story up about her husband. Ask those in the know. Its quite a well known fact even though kutti said in an interview that he was killed after the 84 aftermath. She doesnt say it was Hindus that killed him by the way either. So much bull flying around

[LegalSingh]

. She doesnt say it was Hindus that killed him by the way either. So much bull flying around

Pray tell, if it wasn't Hindus who killed Sikhs in '84 ?

Was it Bhuddists ?

Was it Rastafarians ?

Was it Chritians ?

But seriously I'm interested to know one thing from you. When the British govt and Courts looked at evidence of him being killed in the anti-Sikh genocide before granting hard core and her mum british political asylum how is it that you know he was a sharabi and died from alcohol poisining ? Did you conduct the autopsy ?

[jandialvi]

Go ask industry insiders. You probably dont have or need the connections but i do. No point argueing. Also even you must know that so many people fled Punjab under asylum in those days just to get to the UK yet their reasons where purely financial.

Hardly rocket science mate.