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Jhoot is there everywhere.... You drink milk which is a Jhootan of calf. Yoy drink water which is jhootan of aquatic animal. When you were in th womb of your mother, you were actually eating her

Shabash pa ji shabash. I am sure that our Guru Sahibs, who taught us to be the dust of the feet of all, who taught us that it is better to eat with the poor and righteous than eat with the rich and gr

If u love to argue hana and do kintu on rehat do so but don't go to me and my belifs okay! I'm sick of all you lot doing this, "this rehets wrong!" "This banis wrong!" Etcetc! Just leave us alone, if

I think issue is NOT - avoid jhoot as rehit/stay suchuam with bibek buddhi but rather issue is people have blown this concept out of proportions- applying it blindy everyone towards non amritdharis just by using few examples from history and making those examples as precedence (ignoring circumstances, intent, inner state of mind of person) regarding avoiding jhoot from non amritdharis...people have made this into amritdharis vs non amritdharis than negative vs positive vibes/energy affecting mind at certain stage.

This type of extreme approach is contrary to bibek buddhi as one simply apply jhoot/suchum rehit by looking at external garb* of an individual and if cautioned is not paid it can turn perception of hum nahi change bura na koi to reverse and bring duality and self righteousness mixed with ego and pride....and thats where we have to watch out- this rehit is wonderful like other rehits... most divane and dane mahapursh - maryada purushtam mahapursh kept it but didn't follow it to extreme lengths, follow it based on individual cases...there is a beautiful sakhi of sant kartar singh bhindranwale hugging mastana fakir who was not a amrtidharis whose clothes were dirty with mud sitting on the road, sevadars asked sant ji what happened to bibek and suchumta aspect he goes there are levels of bibek and suchumta...when to apply them, depends on avastha, state of mind.

As sat said, its extremely important to incorporate sri guru granth sahib teaching first then and while performing these rehits otherwise perception of an individual mind can easily turn this into dogma and karam kaand-fookat karma as dasmesh ji talking about. This is to ensure sri guru granth sahib teaching - hum nahi change bura na koi, bisar gaye sab tat paraie, sabh gobind hai sabh gobind hai is not in clash course with individual person perception external rehit such as suchumta/avoid jhoot etc.

When mahapursh avoid jhoot as general rule, they do it involuntarily sehaj savab/also look at intent of an individual be it amrtidhari or not- but when we do it we bring self righteouness mixed with ego/pride in us which causes more hindrances in spirituality.

*Giving merit to an person (jhoot rehit ) automatically by looking at the external garb only is flawed logic, its in direct conflict with Gurmat sidhant.

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There are plenty of inner rehits/hakum in gurbani which no one seems to follow as its harder and its do with the mind..people always follow easy outer rehits and ignore inner rehit- look for easy way, cop out ..its for them to justify their own existence/shortcoming /boast their own self righteousness mixed with ego and pride....we are becoming like mullahs who use religion as fear mongering tool to control sheep mindset of people...they similarly also pay more attention to hadiths (equilvent to rehitnamas) than quran itself.

Outer rehit such as sucham/avoid jhoot were initially meant as aid to build a framework/base strong for an individual so negative vibe cannot pentrate while beginneer start doing abhyaas but people turned them into karam kaands- fookat karam by not following inner rehit/hakum (bisar gayi sab tat praie, hum nahi change bora na koi) hand in hand- so it start having adverse effect on people as people made them into road blocks so to de-toxicy people or destroy those road blocks-

How about we follow inner rehit/hakum first listed in gurbani then outer rehit such as sucham/avoid jhoot will come automatically as involuntarily action/sehaj sava (mahapursh nature) as avastha can sense negative and positive vibes from food more efficiently and effectively not confined to external garb

No one is rejecting rehit of avoid jhoot/suchumta rehit just advising to apply it with bibek buddhi and avoid going extreme lengths following it.

All dharams have four layers/stages- shariat, tariqat , marfat and hakikat...here is guru maharaj giving ultimate updesh intially to idiolized/stuck shariapanthi muslims , but since gurbani is for everyone..it applies to everyone.

Ang- 1083
saraa sareeath lae ka(n)maavahu ||
Let your practice be to live the spiritual life.
thareekath tharak khoj ttolaavahu ||
Let your spiritual cleansing be to renounce the world and seek God.
maarafath man maarahu abadhaalaa milahu hakeekath jith fir n maraa ||3||
Let control of the mind be your spiritual wisdom, O holy man; meeting with God, you shall never die again. ||3|
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There are plenty of inner rehits/hakum in gurbani which no one seems to follow as its harder and its do with the mind..people always follow easy outer rehits/easy way or cop out way- ignore inner rehit for them to justify their own existence/shortcoming /boast their own self righteouness mixed with ego and pride....we are becoming like mullahs who use religion as fear mongering tool to control sheep mindset of people...they similarly also pay more attention to hadiths (equilvent to rehitnamas) than quran itself.

Outer rehit such as sucham/avoid jhoot were initially meant as aid to build a framework/base strong for an individual so negative vibe cannot pentrate while beginneer is doing abhyaas but people turned them into karam kaands- fookat karam so it start having adverse effect on people so to de-toxicy people or destroy those road blocks- How about we follow inner rehit/hakum first listed in gurbani then outer rehit such as sucham/avoid jhoot will come automatically as involuntarily action/sehaj sava (mahapursh nature) as avastha can sense negative and positive vibes from food more efficiently and effectively not confined to external garb

No one is rejecting rehit of avoid jhoot/suchumta rehit just advising to apply it with bibek buddhi and avoid going extreme lengths following it.

All dharams have four layers/stages- shariat, tariqat, marfat and hakikat...here is guru maharaj giving ultimate updesh intially to idiolized/stucked shariapanthi muslims , but since gurbani is for everyone..it applies to everyone.

Ang- 1083
saraa sareeath lae ka(n)maavahu ||
Let your practice be to live the spiritual life.
thareekath tharak khoj ttolaavahu ||
Let your spiritual cleansing be to renounce the world and seek God.
maarafath man maarahu abadhaalaa milahu hakeekath jith fir n maraa ||3||
Let control of the mind be your spiritual wisdom, O holy man; meeting with God, you shall never die again. ||3|

again why are you questioning panj pyaare?

simple as that .

i would say nothing but manmatt,

western singhs will not grab the concept of jhooth and sucham at all , there might be little exception but mostly people will not get this idea .

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again why are you questioning panj pyaare?

simple as that .

i would say nothing but manmatt,

western singhs will not grab the concept of jhooth and sucham at all , there might be little exception but mostly people will not get this idea .

I am not questioning panj pyares but rather people who have idiolized outer rehits and ignore inner rehits...i am talking about those.

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rehat pyaari mujhko sikh pyaara nahi

rehat bina na sikh kehlave

rehat bina dar thokar khave

agreed but

if panj pyaare tells you not to eat jhooth you will question them and not take the hukam and follow?

rehat is really important of mann and out body

rehat pyaari mujhko sikh pyaara nahi

rehat bina na sikh kehlave

rehat bina dar thokar khave

I am not questioning rather i m adding to or clarifying concept of jhoot/suchum in grand scheme of things- on a larger scale so its not on clash course with gurmat sidhant....once people start talking/following inner rehits/taking inner rehit seriously along with outer rehit -when they flaunt rehit pyaari mujhko like jevoh witness/mullah fearmongering tool..i will take them seriously.

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when they flaunt jevoh witness/mullah fearmongering tool..i will take them seriously.

rehat is very serious and should be taken , hukam of panj pyaare is hukam .

when panj pyaare say , it will break amrit or will make you tankhaiya people should heed advice and adhere to it .

people nowadays try to clarrify things they think was correct according to their manmatt .

and do not go by gurmat as well.

sucham is really important for spiritual and as rehat too

and patshahi 10vi loves that person who no matter what doesnt sacrifice rehat .

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rehat is very serious and should be taken , hukam of panj pyaare is hukam .

when panj pyaare say , it will break amrit or will make you tankhaiya people should heed advice and adhere to it .

people nowadays try to clarrify things they think was correct according to their manmatt .

and do not go by gurmat as well.

sucham is really important for spiritual and as rehat too

and patshahi 10vi loves that person who no matter what doesnt sacrifice rehat .

Same Dashmesh ji giving cautionary warning in sri akaal ustat without reciting naam/imbued in naam 24/7 everything including karam and dharam are all foookaaaaaat

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that is what i mentioned above

sucham in mann and outter body both

At body Sure at certain stage as long as one knows with bibek Buddhi when to apply not to apply and does not take it to extreme lengths otherwise if caution is not paid in the mindset it can turn into fookat karam or an hindrance. In advance stages there is no perception of mind and or body both cease to exist.

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everything is defined in puratan rehatnama's just go by it and everyone will be fine.

Puratan rehitnamas are circumstantial due to those times (cannot be applied blindly 100% in all circumstances) and we have many different rehats different dietary/different life style understandably so (there are many different rehitnamas for different orders nirmale-sudharan maryada, sevapanthis, udasi, nihangs - rajo/tamo/satoguni life style within khalsa) but ultimately gurbani is atal and its not circumstantial in that sense. I would follow rehitnamas as long as natural perception its not in clash course with gurbani as soon as my natural perception feel its in clash course and let gurbani takes precedence over it..!!!

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VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Choraan jaaran randiaan kutiarniaan deebarn vaedeena ki dosti vaedeena kaa khaan. Sifti saar naa jaarnani sadaa vasai Shaitan.

Please refer to teekae in Punjabi to its meaning. It is from Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib JI. With emphasis on vaedeena ka khaan.

Ang 790.

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