Naamdharis Given Air On Sangat Tv

[ks55 77]

Not sure anyone noticed - SANGAT TV gave air to naamdhari for an hour yesterday evening

What is going on - have we lost the plot totally????

[Singh900 3]

Not sure anyone noticed - SANGAT TV gave air to naamdhari for an hour yesterday evening

What is going on - have we lost the plot totally????

[Singh900 3]

Have Already complained to sangat tv by phone and have e-mailed them. Please also e-mail sangat tv with your complaints at apsmann@sangattelevision.org. Before the namdhari pakandi chatanga lies again, the Akal takht has excommunicated the namdhari kukas from the Khalsa panth

[jpsingh2 93]

Stop hating Naamdharis they do more rass kirtan than most of us and still have respect for SGGS we are only those who are against SGGS please please pleaje they are not our enemies their main aims are to be better Sikhs themselves and they play no role in the politics. Thanks

[Singh900 3]

The root of all the pakandis are the namdharis. Pakhandis look at them and think if they can get away with their fake gurudoms then they can away with whatever they want to.They are the true enemies of the sikki and directly oppose Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

[ks55 77]

This is not about hating them - this is simple fact as stated above they have been excommunicated by the Akal Takht and sangat tv gives them space - i will pull my donation if they don;t apologize to sangat on air for airing such excommunicated individuals.

[Cisco_Singh 564]

Has anyone got a link or copy of the official akal takht hukamnama where it states naamdharis are excommicated from the Sikh panth ? I've never seen the official order although I know a lot of Gurdwaras do not allow naamdharis to perform kirtan on stage due to their belief in a dehdari Guru... A bit of a loss really as naamdharis skill in gurmat sangeet, raag vidiya and kirtan is vastly superior to the majority of mainstream Sikhs.

[sat 542]

Aps maan and sangat tv are now getting desperate to get financial support, before they gave the so called Ravidassis a lot of air time but that seems to have fizzled and now kooka community.

Aps maan himself is a trim singh so what do you expect, irrespective of how much kirtan the kookas do they break the main rule of sikhi as defined by the Akaal takht, they worship a deh tari (bodily) guru and do not acknowledge SGGS JI as the everlasting holder of Guru Nanaks ji's jyot, they maybe be good people and i am not against them but to say they are sikhs of SGGS JI is incorrect, they are the sikhs of there deh tari guru.

Until they do not acknowledge SGGS JI as the only Guru they can not be part of the Khalsa panth (main reason why the can not be part of the panth) also they do Amrit sanchar differently with men saying Wjkk Wjkf and women saying bole so nihal when receiving amrit ? and marriages with havans and other ceremonies which SGGS ji's Sikhs do not.

but their is no reason to hate them live and let live, we can be one and should welcome them back with open arms but not until they have allegiance to SGGS JI only and no other and then retake amrit as per Akaal Takht maryada and keep Rehat accordingly .

[Singh900 3]

There is no ras in their kirtan. They sing to their pakandi baba. The only ras in kirtan is if you the praises of Waheguru and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. I think the thakan need break ties with these people even if they are their relatives

[Cisco_Singh 564]

There is no ras in their kirtan. They sing to their pakandi baba. The only ras in kirtan is if you the praises of Waheguru and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. I think the thakan need break ties with these people even if they are their relatives

Really..do you want to provide any evidence, videos etc of naamdharis singing shabads praising their own Guru..or is this another rumour with no evidence to back it up...

I have seen various youtube videos of Naamdhari kirtan...I dont see any shabads where they are singing to their own pakhandi baba as you state...

[sachasoorma 4]

Watched that whole programme and it was not giving naamdharis any qudos......infact they were asked why they dont just call they're "guru" sant or baba like many sant samaaj people.

Also they were asked why they dont help sikh victims of 1984 genocide.

That presenter is a new guy who seems to be asking good questions from a sikhi view point.

He has asked good questions to sikhs for justice and seva84.......and premiered they're documentary on survivours of delhi massacre.

He has interviewed castewatch uk aswel and put the caste issue in right terms of culture as opposed to sikhi.

This encounters programme seems like a breathe of fresh air.

[sat 542]

if they are singing the praises of the guru then it has to be their deh tari guru it can not be SGGS JI otherwise why have a deh tari guru in the first place ?, also we need to stop making excuses for the kookas they are what they are devotees of a deh tari guru full stop. They are not part of the khalsa panth who has only allegiance to SGGS JI the jyot of the ten Gurus.

[Toofana 51]

Sangat television are a disgrace. They had Nirankaris on the week before too. May be a deeper rooted conspiracy behind it all. AP Mann is pathetic.

[sachasoorma 4]

I watch sangat quite alot and dont remember ANY narakdharis on there.......deeper rooted conspiracy??? Maybe you should prove the fact by saying which show and presenter had narakdhari on it.....hopefully its not the second pic you posted, as thats the naamdhari that was on this monday.

Also the pic of aps maan is pretty old as i have seen it before ages ago........or are people not allowed to make mistakes in life.

Judge only when you can be sure you're personally worthy.

Which is never.

[Guest]

Namdharis,nirankaris,radhaswamis,neeldharis,etc they are all in the same boat. and they are all headed to dehdhari guru land.Just follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji sache patshah.