Free Will, Hukam, Karam?

[Guest]

To tell you the truth In my opinion it is Waheguru telling Waheguru not to believe in itself.Its weird to understand but if you think about it it's true.We are all Waheguru and we are no other.It is Waheguru telling itself to worship or not worship itself.Waheguru can do anything even contradict itself in my opinion.

[jaspreet1]

Read my post properly.I disagreed with what you said that Waheguru is only good.

To correct you I said Waheguru only DOES good. .

[Guest]

To correct you I said Waheguru only DOES good. .

I get what your saying now.When Waheguru does bad that is also good.

[scali]

Our True Being precedes everything. 21st pauri Sukhmani sahib. We are all in all just like GOO. Out of that all we pick and choose what we want to experience. An athiest chooses to not believe and creates an experience of Ego and experiences that to the max (very painful per Gurbani). Repeated thought brings forth an experience in physicality. Thats why Naam Simran is the core of Sikhism, breaking illusion of separation and merging in the source by choice (free will)

[jaspreet1]

I get what your saying now.When Waheguru does bad that is also good.

Yes

However in his play he has shown two paths to human's. One that leads to Waheguru which is prescribed in Gurbani and other is without Gurbani (Guru Sahib) in your life and the soul ends up without Waheguru. Yet he controls which one a person takes and where the person ends up. His mystery is so wonderful that he can make a person follow the the path without Gurbani and then in the last breath make them utter Gurbani and by his command the soul becomes jivan mukht.

The more ardas we do in our lives the more we progress in Sikhi. The less ardas we do in our lives the more we say I can do it no problem. It is not hard to complete so and so task I have done it many times before. This increases ego and takes us away from Waheguru. When reading Gurbani many ardasian are done, but only a few hear them to realize how powerful single ardas is.

[N30S1NGH]

Japji sahib along with 21st asthapadi of sukhmani sahib is really a key to understand deep gurmat theology. I first got a graceful chance/opportunity to look at it deeply via sant gyani gurbachan singh khalsa bhindranwale gurbani katha after listening to gurbani katha i keeping getting drawn into 21st asthpadi of sukhmani sahib, couple of months ago gracefully had a chance to listen to 3.5 hrs katha on it. It's very deep and profound- put everything into perspective.

[Guest dasguruka]

Japji sahib along with 21st asthapadi of sukhmani sahib is really a key to understand deep gurmat theology. I first got a graceful chance/opportunity to look at it deeply via sant gyani gurbachan singh khalsa bhindranwale gurbani katha after listening to gurbani katha i keeping getting drawn into 21st asthpadi of sukhmani sahib, couple of months ago gracefully had a chance to listen to 3.5 hrs katha on it. It's very deep and profound- put everything into perspective.

Neo Ji which Katha is this? The lareevar by Gurbachan Singh Ji or the other one ?

[N30S1NGH]

Neo Ji which Katha is this? The lareevar by Gurbachan Singh Ji or the other one ?

Lareevar, also i have glanced through teeka of sukhmani sahib as well its quite deep and quite long.