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What of atheist extremists that are often part of western government's and corrupt atheist regimes that murdered millions over recent years in illegal unjust invasions and attacks?

I think there is no difference between atheist extremists and abrahmic / islamic extremists both as violent mental as each other. And I noticed alot of indians are atheists by belief they dont believe in their fairy tales hinduism or ravidassism or other pagan cultist beliefs any more but believe in something called "hindu atheism".

Superkaur, you have made a valid point but can you answer the following:

Can you please give an example of an atheist extremists? And Which Western governments have they influenced?

I didn’t know they had an upper hand in this matter.

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Superkaur, you have made a valid point but can you answer the following:

Can you please give an example of an atheist extremists? And Which Western governments have they influenced?

I didn’t know they had an upper hand in this matter.

Although this question was directed towards Super Kaur JI, but examples of mass murdering athiests, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jon II. Just one of these mass murdering athiests, Stalin has killed more human beings than all the extremist Muslim invaders combined. He killed more people than even Hitler and Gengish Khan

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Although this question was directed towards Super Kaur JI, but examples of mass murdering athiests, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jon II. Just one of these mass murdering athiests, Stalin has killed more human beings than all the extremist Muslim invaders combined. He killed more people than even Hitler and Gengish Khan

Then we can make the same argument about religious leaders, Muhammed, who killed countless to achieve his goal. The great crusades, war in the name of God.

The great invasion of Muslim empire across the east

Here is the list of “religious wars”:

Albigensian Crusade

Almohad Conquest of Muslim Spain

Anglo-Scottish War (1559–1560)

Arab Conquest of Carthage

Aragonese-Castilian War

Aragonese-French War (1209–1213)

First Bearnese Revolt

Second Bearnese Revolt

Third Bearnese Revolt

First Bishop’s War

Second Bishop’s War

Raids of the Black Hundreds

Bohemian Civil War (1465–1471)

Bohemian Palatine War

War in Bosnia

Brabant Revolution

Byzantine-Muslim War (633–642)

Byzantine-Muslim War (645–656)

Byzantine-Muslim War (688–679)

Byzantine-Muslim War (698–718)

Byzantine-Muslim War (739)

Byzantine-Muslim War (741-752)

Byzantine-Muslim War (778-783)

Byzantine-Muslim War (797- 798)

Byzantine-Muslim War (803-809)

Byzantine-Muslim War (830-841)

Byzantine-Muslim War (851–863)

Byzantine-Muslim War (871–885)

Byzantine-Muslim War (960–976)

Byzantine-Muslim War (995–999)

Camisards’ Rebellion

Castilian Conquest of Toledo

Charlemagne’s Invasion of Northern Spain

Charlemagne’s War against the Saxons

Count’s War, Covenanters’ Rebellion (1666)

Covenanters’ Rebellion (1679)

Covenanters’ Rebellion (1685)

Crimean War

First Crusade

Second Crusade

Third Crusade

Fourth Crusade [Footnote reads “Just being generous here. See Chapter XII”]

Fifth Crusade

Sixth Crusade

Seventh Crusade

Eighth Crusade

Ninth Crusade

Crusader-Turkish Wars (1100–1146)

Crusader-Turkish Wars (1272–1291)

Danish-Estonian War

German Civil War (1077–1106)

Ghost Dance Uprising

Siege of Granada

First Iconoclastic War

Second Iconoclastic War

India-Pakistan Partition War

Irish Tithe War

Javanese invasion of Malacca

Great Java War

Kappel Wars

Khurramite’s Revolt

Lebanese Civil War

Wars of the Lombard League

Luccan-Florentine War

Holy Wars of the Mad Mullah

Maryland’s Religious War

Mecca-Medina War

Mexican Insurrections

War of the Monks

Mountain Meadows Massacre

Revolt of Muqanna

Crusade of Nicopolis

Padri War

Paulician War

Persian Civil War (1500–1503)

Portuguese-Moroccan War (1458–1471)

Portuguese-Moroccan War (1578)

Portuguese-Omani Wars in East Africa

Rajput Rebellion against Aurangzeb

Revolt in Ravenna

First War of Religion

Second War of Religion

Third War of Religion

Fourth War of Religion

Fifth War of Religion

Fifth War of Religion

Sixth War of Religion

Eighth War of Religion

Ninth War of Religion

Roman-Persian War (421–422)

Roman- Persian War (441)

Russo Turkish War (1877–1878)

First Sacred War

Second Sacred War

Third Sacred War

Saladin’s Holy War

Schmalkaldic War

Scottish Uprising against Mary of Guise

Serbo- Turkish War

Shimabara Revolt

War of the Sonderbund

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (912–928)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (977–997)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1001–1031)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1172–1212)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1230–1248)

Spanish Christian- Muslim War (1481–1492)

Spanish Conquests in North Africa

Swedish War

Thirty Years War

Transylvania-Hapsburg War

Tukulor-French War

Turko-Persian Wars

United States War on Terror

Vellore Mutiny

Vjayanagar Wars

First Villmergen War

Second Villmergen War

Visigothic-Frankish War.

Stalin was not an atheist, he was a communist who strongly supported Russian orthodox church. When Lenin took power, first thing he did was to abolish power from the Russian orthodox church and Stalin was the one to reverse the decision.

Just blaming these issues on just their believes as atheists is not valid. Yes, these people were atheists, I'm not denying that but it takes more to kill then just being an atheist.

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Then we can make the same argument about religious leaders, Muhammed, who killed countless to achieve his goal. The great crusades, war in the name of God.

The great invasion of Muslim empire across the east

Here is the list of “religious wars”:

Albigensian Crusade

Almohad Conquest of Muslim Spain

Anglo-Scottish War (1559–1560)

Arab Conquest of Carthage

Aragonese-Castilian War

Aragonese-French War (1209–1213)

First Bearnese Revolt

Second Bearnese Revolt

Third Bearnese Revolt

First Bishop’s War

Second Bishop’s War

Raids of the Black Hundreds

Bohemian Civil War (1465–1471)

Bohemian Palatine War

War in Bosnia

Brabant Revolution

Byzantine-Muslim War (633–642)

Byzantine-Muslim War (645–656)

Byzantine-Muslim War (688–679)

Byzantine-Muslim War (698–718)

Byzantine-Muslim War (739)

Byzantine-Muslim War (741-752)

Byzantine-Muslim War (778-783)

Byzantine-Muslim War (797- 798)

Byzantine-Muslim War (803-809)

Byzantine-Muslim War (830-841)

Byzantine-Muslim War (851–863)

Byzantine-Muslim War (871–885)

Byzantine-Muslim War (960–976)

Byzantine-Muslim War (995–999)

Camisards’ Rebellion

Castilian Conquest of Toledo

Charlemagne’s Invasion of Northern Spain

Charlemagne’s War against the Saxons

Count’s War, Covenanters’ Rebellion (1666)

Covenanters’ Rebellion (1679)

Covenanters’ Rebellion (1685)

Crimean War

First Crusade

Second Crusade

Third Crusade

Fourth Crusade [Footnote reads “Just being generous here. See Chapter XII”]

Fifth Crusade

Sixth Crusade

Seventh Crusade

Eighth Crusade

Ninth Crusade

Crusader-Turkish Wars (1100–1146)

Crusader-Turkish Wars (1272–1291)

Danish-Estonian War

German Civil War (1077–1106)

Ghost Dance Uprising

Siege of Granada

First Iconoclastic War

Second Iconoclastic War

India-Pakistan Partition War

Irish Tithe War

Javanese invasion of Malacca

Great Java War

Kappel Wars

Khurramite’s Revolt

Lebanese Civil War

Wars of the Lombard League

Luccan-Florentine War

Holy Wars of the Mad Mullah

Maryland’s Religious War

Mecca-Medina War

Mexican Insurrections

War of the Monks

Mountain Meadows Massacre

Revolt of Muqanna

Crusade of Nicopolis

Padri War

Paulician War

Persian Civil War (1500–1503)

Portuguese-Moroccan War (1458–1471)

Portuguese-Moroccan War (1578)

Portuguese-Omani Wars in East Africa

Rajput Rebellion against Aurangzeb

Revolt in Ravenna

First War of Religion

Second War of Religion

Third War of Religion

Fourth War of Religion

Fifth War of Religion

Fifth War of Religion

Sixth War of Religion

Eighth War of Religion

Ninth War of Religion

Roman-Persian War (421–422)

Roman- Persian War (441)

Russo Turkish War (1877–1878)

First Sacred War

Second Sacred War

Third Sacred War

Saladin’s Holy War

Schmalkaldic War

Scottish Uprising against Mary of Guise

Serbo- Turkish War

Shimabara Revolt

War of the Sonderbund

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (912–928)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (977–997)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1001–1031)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1172–1212)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1230–1248)

Spanish Christian- Muslim War (1481–1492)

Spanish Conquests in North Africa

Swedish War

Thirty Years War

Transylvania-Hapsburg War

Tukulor-French War

Turko-Persian Wars

United States War on Terror

Vellore Mutiny

Vjayanagar Wars

First Villmergen War

Second Villmergen War

Visigothic-Frankish War.

Stalin was not an atheist, he was a communist who strongly supported Russian orthodox church. When Lenin took power, first thing he did was to abolish power from the Russian orthodox church and Stalin was the one to reverse the decision.

Just blaming these issues on just their believes as atheists is not valid. Yes, these people were atheists, I'm not denying that but it takes more to kill then just being an atheist.

As Jonny101 Ji pointed out a whole range of crimies against humanity has been committed by atheists and to this day its going on. I think its pretty conclusive by all intelligent and educated people that stalin was an atheist for the most part, if you say he was a supporter of the russian orthofdox church he certainly wasnt following a religious Christianity doctrine. He was following a nationalist expansionist atheist agenda for mother russia he didnt care what religion you was if you got in the way he would have you killed and didnt justify it with a verse from some holy book. A person of religious conviction would do everything in his power not to harm fellow adherents.

As for muhammad we all know about him and his quranic verses justifying war against the kufr. So thats a given and no one is arguing for Team Islam here we are against islamic religious violence more than atheists like yourself.

However overall it is pretty conclusive that atheists are the most violent people on earth as most politicians and soldiers in western nations are atheists look ath death and destruction they caused in recent years. If you look at the prison statistics and you will see those of the no faith vastly out number those who have a religion in jail. The 2nd largest criminal group are the Muslims and thats a given we all know what their like and their willing to commit violent crime and disorder against in "non-muslim" lands.

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Then we can make the same argument about religious leaders, Muhammed, who killed countless to achieve his goal. The great crusades, war in the name of God.

The great invasion of Muslim empire across the east

Here is the list of “religious wars”:

Albigensian Crusade

Almohad Conquest of Muslim Spain

Anglo-Scottish War (1559–1560)

Arab Conquest of Carthage

Aragonese-Castilian War

Aragonese-French War (1209–1213)

First Bearnese Revolt

Second Bearnese Revolt

Third Bearnese Revolt

First Bishop’s War

Second Bishop’s War

Raids of the Black Hundreds

Bohemian Civil War (1465–1471)

Bohemian Palatine War

War in Bosnia

Brabant Revolution

Byzantine-Muslim War (633–642)

Byzantine-Muslim War (645–656)

Byzantine-Muslim War (688–679)

Byzantine-Muslim War (698–718)

Byzantine-Muslim War (739)

Byzantine-Muslim War (741-752)

Byzantine-Muslim War (778-783)

Byzantine-Muslim War (797- 798)

Byzantine-Muslim War (803-809)

Byzantine-Muslim War (830-841)

Byzantine-Muslim War (851–863)

Byzantine-Muslim War (871–885)

Byzantine-Muslim War (960–976)

Byzantine-Muslim War (995–999)

Camisards’ Rebellion

Castilian Conquest of Toledo

Charlemagne’s Invasion of Northern Spain

Charlemagne’s War against the Saxons

Count’s War, Covenanters’ Rebellion (1666)

Covenanters’ Rebellion (1679)

Covenanters’ Rebellion (1685)

Crimean War

First Crusade

Second Crusade

Third Crusade

Fourth Crusade [Footnote reads “Just being generous here. See Chapter XII”]

Fifth Crusade

Sixth Crusade

Seventh Crusade

Eighth Crusade

Ninth Crusade

Crusader-Turkish Wars (1100–1146)

Crusader-Turkish Wars (1272–1291)

Danish-Estonian War

German Civil War (1077–1106)

Ghost Dance Uprising

Siege of Granada

First Iconoclastic War

Second Iconoclastic War

India-Pakistan Partition War

Irish Tithe War

Javanese invasion of Malacca

Great Java War

Kappel Wars

Khurramite’s Revolt

Lebanese Civil War

Wars of the Lombard League

Luccan-Florentine War

Holy Wars of the Mad Mullah

Maryland’s Religious War

Mecca-Medina War

Mexican Insurrections

War of the Monks

Mountain Meadows Massacre

Revolt of Muqanna

Crusade of Nicopolis

Padri War

Paulician War

Persian Civil War (1500–1503)

Portuguese-Moroccan War (1458–1471)

Portuguese-Moroccan War (1578)

Portuguese-Omani Wars in East Africa

Rajput Rebellion against Aurangzeb

Revolt in Ravenna

First War of Religion

Second War of Religion

Third War of Religion

Fourth War of Religion

Fifth War of Religion

Fifth War of Religion

Sixth War of Religion

Eighth War of Religion

Ninth War of Religion

Roman-Persian War (421–422)

Roman- Persian War (441)

Russo Turkish War (1877–1878)

First Sacred War

Second Sacred War

Third Sacred War

Saladin’s Holy War

Schmalkaldic War

Scottish Uprising against Mary of Guise

Serbo- Turkish War

Shimabara Revolt

War of the Sonderbund

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (912–928)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (977–997)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1001–1031)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1172–1212)

Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1230–1248)

Spanish Christian- Muslim War (1481–1492)

Spanish Conquests in North Africa

Swedish War

Thirty Years War

Transylvania-Hapsburg War

Tukulor-French War

Turko-Persian Wars

United States War on Terror

Vellore Mutiny

Vjayanagar Wars

First Villmergen War

Second Villmergen War

Visigothic-Frankish War.

Stalin was not an atheist, he was a communist who strongly supported Russian orthodox church. When Lenin took power, first thing he did was to abolish power from the Russian orthodox church and Stalin was the one to reverse the decision.

Just blaming these issues on just their believes as atheists is not valid. Yes, these people were atheists, I'm not denying that but it takes more to kill then just being an atheist.

Stalin(and everyone else I listed) was an atheist. Stalin once said:

"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God... all this talk of God is sheer nonsense"

you have given a very long list of Islamic invasions wars spanning 1400 years of their long history which no doubt has caused a lot of death and suffering. But just one hundred years of atheist history beats that by leaps and bounds. The Indian saying:

"Sau Sunaar Ki, Ek Lohaar Ki' fits this perfectly.

Just one smash of the Lohaar is equal to a hundred small hits of a Sunaar. (Lohaar=Atheists and Sunaar=Muslims). 100 years of atheist history is many times more bloody than 1400 years of brutal Islamic history. No one can match the brutality of the atheists, not even the Muslims.

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Stalin(and everyone else I listed) was an atheist. Stalin once said:

"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God... all this talk of God is sheer nonsense"

you have given a very long list of Islamic invasions wars spanning 1400 years of their long history which no doubt has caused a lot of death and suffering. But just one hundred years of atheist history beats that by leaps and bounds. The Indian saying:

"Sau Sunaar Ki, Ek Lohaar Ki' fits this perfectly.

Just one smash of the Lohaar is equal to a hundred small hits of a Sunaar. (Lohaar=Atheists and Sunaar=Muslims). 100 years of atheist history is many times more bloody than 1400 years of brutal Islamic history. No one can match the brutality of the atheists, not even the Muslims.

Just one smash of the Lohaar is equal to a hundred small hits of a Sunaar. (Lohaar=Atheists and Sunaar=Muslims). 100 years of atheist history is many times more bloody than 1400 years of brutal Islamic history. No one can match the brutality of the atheists, not even the Muslims.

Where did you get this from? This is based on your opinion not fact.

So Islam is not a religion?

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Where did you get this from? This is based on your opinion not fact.

So Islam is not a religion?

Islam is more than just a religion. It is also a political system which is why it's so dangerous. Like communism, it's also an ideology, a financial system but based on the 7th century where as communism was more modern. Communism to some extent was it's match and Atheistic leaders of communism even surpassed Islamic rulers in brutality in causing human suffering.

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it is misleading to state that athiests have killed vast numbers of people or killed more people than people that believe in god.

1. there is a far greater ability to kill people in modern times than it was in the past, the point being that had religious wars had atomic weapons and missiles then many more people would have died.

2. there are more people these days, population growth has exploded. greater numbers of people in a fixed place is likely to lead to increased wars/fighting

3. not all religious kings/generals/leaders killed people because of their religion. some people just want to rule and have power and they will doing anything to achieve that

4. athiest leaders who have killed large numbers of people did not necessarily do so because they hate religious people and want to wipe them out, as with point 3 above, some people want to rule others and they dont care how they get to the top and they dont care who they kill.

5. following your logic would lead to statements like this:

the men that killed the most number of people over the last 5000 years usually had moustaches therefore we need to condemn moustache sporting men

the men that killed the most number of people over the last 5000 years usually had brown hair therefore we need to condemn brown haired men

the men that killed the most number of people over the last 5000 years usually were men therefore we need to condemn all men

we should all be careful before stereotyping whole groups of others, many people on here would be the first to complain when being grouped together with others eg. asians, indians, pakistanis, hindus, muslims

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Someone once said Muslims are the first victims of Islam.

How does Islam came into this?

Lord's Resistence Army has murdered thousands in Africa in name of Christianity.

I don't see anyone blaming Christianity...

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Lord's Resistence Army has murdered thousands in Africa in name of Christianity.

I don't see anyone blaming Christianity...

You just started...

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How does Islam came into this?

Lord's Resistence Army has murdered thousands in Africa in name of Christianity.

I don't see anyone blaming Christianity...

Are you not seeing because you don't want to?

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