Elections

[raul gonzalez]

BUSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! :wub: :D :doh:

[atl singh]

KEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

who cares people their both stupid in their own ways. :wub: :D :doh:

[JSingh]

yea, they are both different in their ownn ways and people will decide what they want. if they liked George Bush, they will vote for him, and if they want to taste something different, just out of curiosity, they'll vote for Kerry. I think there is nothing right or wrong in this.

[JSingh]

Welcome to the forum Raul Gonzalez!

[Ikonkar Kaur]

fateh

and also before the 9-11 attack, bush knew it was gonna happen like a month early, and he didnt do anything about it. and wen the attack was happening, he was at an elementary school and he was informed about the attack, and he didnt do anything. he just sat there for like 30 more min and kept reading a book to the kids. then wen the tv reporters came and asked him questions, he started acting all sorry and sweet. so thats one of the reasons y im not going for bush. another reason is that he doesnt do any work; he spent 40% of his presidency on vacation.

fateh

[Rupinder Kaur]

grand daughter of guru teghbahad,

First off, media was already in the classroom. And, there was ONLY VAGUE talk of the threat of potential hijackings and this issue had been recurring in U.S. intelligence data. However, no one had speculated about the usage of an airplane as a bomb or a weapon, and no specific, credible information about the possibility of a hijacking of any sort was available. The intelligence reports that were released before and after 9/11 were general and raised the possibility of strikes on the United States or its interests overseas, but had no specific information about potential targets. Therefore, there was no specific information the government could have acted upon!

Had you been in President Bush's place (..expecting to have a good day, a pleasant moment reading to Flordian children, etc..)..on September 11, what would you have done? A lot of people are peculiar about President Bush's actions on Septemberr 11, however it is important to note that your response to such an action varies from person to person ..(..that is if you think of it on psychological and psychiatric bases)..Varying on person to person, some of us require time to absorb in the situation, realize what has happened, and think about it again, and then decide. It can be a long thought out process (longer than fifteen minutes) if it is in response to a non-expecting incident (..like in the case of 9/11)....Had President Bush outraged in the classroom full of Kindergarteners and went something like this "holy smokes!..what the ..happened.."..would that have done any good? Then, how would you explain to a classroom full of kindergartners who merely have the c

apability to understand who they are...what terrorists are/why'd President Bush went on a rage..etc? I believe it was very wise of President Bush to allow sometime to absorb such an horrific incident and then decide the affirmative action. Instead, of going "hallejuah- let's go bomb who ever is behind it" at the very moment.

And lets imagine that Bush did jump up right away and decide to bomb everybody based on some crazed impulse, everyone would be yelling at him for that too... not only that, some INSANE people would even say that showed that he had EXPECTED the attacks to take place... nothing can please some people... Bush must always be wrong for some people no matter what he does.

It is crucial for a president to be near the Oval Office, however that does not mean the president has no-life outside of the White House. Bush is a natured-type of person, hence he has a ranch in Crawford, ...the vacation time is not like its reserved for anything but White House related policies, however thanks to modren technology, the president continues to be briefed on developments and considers major policies during his time of vacation. For example, during his one month vacation to Crawford, President Bush was considering whether to allow federal funding for research using embryonic stem cells.

Vicky Singh, I wish I could respond to your post as well.only if I could figure out what you were trying to get at...Urgh :wub: @

In regards to my location, I meant to include sarcasm in my comment, but then edited my post to say I was from Boston, Mass...and I only know Mehtab Singh, we have no brotherly or sisterly connection...you've got the wrong Rupinder in mind.

[S1ngh]

raul gonzalez

Nice to know that lots of ppls from BC area are joining in.. just like voting on other thread :wub: :TH:

Not my personal views.. only facts :

Bush and International Relations:

Among the litany of international agreements Bush has dashed or ignored is the Antiballistic Missile Treaty with Russia. He pulled out in order to clear the stage for building a national missile defense shield. On this, Bush didn't bother getting Senate approval.

Add our withdrawal from the Kyoto protocol on controlling greenhouse gases and the way Bush has ignored world trade rules by imposing tariffs on steel imports and raising agricultural subsidies, and a profile emerges of a leader who cares little about our nation's prior commitments.

Violation of Geneva Conventions:

There are nearly 600 prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. In determining their fate, the administration has flatly refused to follow the Geneva Conventions, which gives each person captured on a battlefield presumptive prisoner-of-war status and requires individual hearings to determine otherwise. According

to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, none of the Guantanamo detainees qualifies as a POW based solely on the administration's say-so. Vienna Colucci, a program director at Amnesty International, says if the remaining prisoners are not POWs then they have rights under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, a treaty we ratified in 1992. The covenant gives all people, under any circumstances, the right to be informed of the charges against them and the right to challenge the lawfulness of their detention. Colucci says the administration is playing "pick and choose," claiming we are in a war but saying the rules of war do not apply. At this moment, some of the Guantanamo prisoners, dubbed "the worst of the worst" by Rumsfeld, are being released because they were found to be not dangerous or guilty of any crime.

Violation of Vienna Convention:

We have also been flouting the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. Ratified in 1969, the convention guarantees imprisoned foreign nationals immediate access to their consulates and vice versa. Yet civil rights groups have documented numerous cases where foreign nationals detained after Sept. 11 were denied contact for weeks.

Examples : In the case of Maher Arar, a Canadian citizen of Syrian descent, who was detained on Sept. 26 as he was changing planes in New York, our government has simply refused to tell Canada anything about his whereabouts. As reported by St. Petersburg Times writer Susan Taylor Martin, after spending nearly two weeks in a Brooklyn detention center, Arar was deported, apparently to Jordan, without any word to his consulate. He was then taken by Jordanian authorities to Syria where he is now being held. Canada has filed a formal protest against the United States over the treaty violation.

b) The immigrants picked up in the U.S. in the sweep after Sept. 11 have also been denied their rights under the covenant. At least 36 detainees were held without charge for 28 days or more. One, a Saudi Arabian,

wasn't charged for 119 days.

Bush and his brain on Israeli/plastinian issue:

Bush inflamed the world-wide terrorist network to action. Just seventeen days after Bush's inaugural (January 20, 2001), Ariel Sharon rode into power. What was Bush's response to Sharon's attacks on Palestinians? He praised Sharon and christened him the "Man of Peace" in the Middle East ( Bush: Sharon A 'Man Of Peace' (washingtonpost.com) - extolling Israel's Prime Minister after he had desecrated Muslim holy places CBC News - Sharon desecrates Muslim holy place), reignited the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to a new high, bulldozed hundreds of Palestinian homes, fired missiles into Arab villages killing hundreds of innocent civilians, and discarded the pro-peace precedents of predecessors who negotiated in good faith with Palestinian counterparts.

Terrorism is contemptible no matter what form - whether suicide bombings committed by desperate Palestinians or state-sponsored terrorism committed by Israel using American weapons to pulverize villages, massacring harmless villagers. Why is America forced to take one side or the other?

Why can't the U.S. truly be the "honest broker" [as so claimed] between the two so that a long-term settlement can be reached? Why? Because Bush knows where his bread is buttered and is incapable of acting on principle, but rather must act for the sake of political expediency. Follow the money to Bush's heart, friends. There you will discover what inspires the man! American fundamentalists and corporate moguls decide Bush's direction and they've now got a lock on the nation.

Terrorism before 9/11?

Not only did George Bush agitate the passions of terrorists world-wide, he discarded Clinton's plans to combat terrorism. Sandy Berger's research and blueprints to eliminate Osama bin Laden were canned when Bush first arrived. Sandy Berger's strategies to combat terrorism).

The August 6, 2001

intelligence memo to Bush (while on month-long Crawford vacation) warning of Al Qaeda terrorists soon to hijack airliners, crashing them into buildings was somehow bleeped from the congressional 9/11 report. (The August 6, 2001 Intelligence Briefing to Bush: WARNING of terrorist attacks with hijacked planes ) "National security reasons," Bush lamely explained.

Bush & Ladens

George Bush was also connected with the bin Laden families of Saudi Arabia - spanning decades of financial entanglements. Beginning in 1976, Salem bin Laden, brother of Osama, was George's primary investor in Bush's first failed business, Arbusto Energy of Midland, Texas.

Four of Bush's business ventures failed, but the bin Ladens inexplicably invested at each step despite losses. There was obviously more to the arrangement than met the eye, although Bush's father was at first congressman, then CIA Director, and later Vice-President of the United States - plus had close ties with Saudi royalty through oil company connections and later political interests. (Bush & Bin Laden - George W. Bush Had Ties to Billionaire bin Laden Brood)

Bush's contempt for Clinton was only one influencing factor to disband Sandy Berger's anti-bin Laden project. The other one was more compelling: The close ties between the Bush and bin Laden families. In brief, the U.S. let its guard down on Bush's watch.

The report about Bush lifting flight restrictions on September 13, 2001 to allow the bin Laden families to fly from the United States to Saudi Arabia is also somehow censored. ( The Bushes And The Bin Ladens: HOW BUSH LIFTED THE FLIGHT RESTRICTION TO ALLOW BIN LADENS TO FLY TO SAUDI ARABIA ) "National security"? Yeah, right. CYA, George.

Conclusion:

Bush went immediately about the business of destroying long-established international treaties and dissolving the foreign policy of stability perfected through global commerce and socio-economic and educational interaction. In their p

lace would rise his policy of militancy and intimidation - alienating both friend and foe in its wake.

The world now hates the U.S. government worse than at any other time in history - the direct product of the Bush Administration and a lasting legacy never to be expunged [like his four D.U.I.s and TX Air Nat'l Guard AWOL] from Mr. Bush's record.

[doctor_mani]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Vote for BUSH!!!

He's a good putt. He wont allow gay marriages unlike Kerry who will.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Gurpreet Singh]

u guys are big campaigners now

[moorakh mugadh]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

kerry :wub: