Mistreatment Of The Guru Granth Sahib

[Akal Warrior]

Veer ji

but if the PC had gandh in terms of file contents on it and the person used those files then are you saying that it is permissible/ to use gurbani in same PC just so long as you shut the gandh up at the time?

would you have peeps behave as massa ranghar one minute then shut that down and next minute start gurbani paat in same arena i.e. on the pc; surely it would be better to say don't do it ever if you can and try not to use any machine which you use to listen read gurbani on? Just wondering.

Your logic makes no sense at all. I'm trying to make a point here. According to your logic...last week was the Gurpurab of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. On TV they had a live 48 hour broadcast of the full Akhand paat sahib from a gurdwara in Toronto. According to your logic...the only way I could have listened to this Paat is by buying a brand new tv that is used solely for gurbani? Did I commit a sin by watching the broadcast on my TV which obviously has a lot of gandh on it?

I'm trying to make you think outside the box a little. I'm not going to feel guilty reading Paat on my laptop. I understand that there is gandh online... But I'm not watching that stuff... I'm reading Bani. When you guys do parchar like this, there's one thing you don't realize: you are breaking people away from Bani (not on purpose). You make reading Bani so difficult, that many people will not even bother, or feel guilty about doing so. Please open your mind and realize that when you write things like this, you could be influencing a lot of people to also live in a paranoid, guilt ridden state. Not a good way to live bro.

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Oh for the love of GOD, READ & UNDERSTAND GURBANI AND DO WHAT IT SAYS!!!!

Satkaar will come as your love develops and you need to listen to your inner self on this topic on what Satkaar and how to do Satkaar for electronic media. There are very good protocols on pothian, Gutka Sahibs, and other printed forms of Gurbani. Electronic media is a very grey area and Gursikhs really don't have a consensus on this topic. Some have made the plea to Akaal Takht Sahib to issue a clarification so there is a unified directive. If you have this much of concern for Satkaar (and there is nothing wrong with that), please gather support from the Sangat and put pressure on Akaal Takht Sahib to issue such a directive.

These arguments got as ridiculous as if you open a PDF of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, should you have a Rumalla Sahib, Chandoa Sahib and Chaur Sahib, with the computer parkash on a Takht Poash on a Manji Sahib for that PC. What if you memorize Gurbani and then see a magazine ad accidentally with a scantily dressed woman? What if you are reading the newspaper and there is an ad that you see that promises to fix your physical marital type problems? Your mind is also a computer that stores Gurbani in sectors - should we be advocating surgical deactivation of that sector of the brain???

Innocent, well meaning questions turn into platforms to attack each other and do NOTHING to answer the origional poster's question. Read Gurbani, do as much Satkaar as possible. And for the love of GOD, have some faith. If Dasam Patshah can give Darshan to a Kenyan to instruct him that he is not doing seva at a Gurdwara correctly, would he not instruct his devotees away from any beadbi?

[jkvlondon]

Your logic makes no sense at all. I'm trying to make a point here. According to your logic...last week was the Gurpurab of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. On TV they had a live 48 hour broadcast of the full Akhand paat sahib from a gurdwara in Toronto. According to your logic...the only way I could have listened to this Paat is by buying a brand new tv that is used solely for gurbani? Did I commit a sin by watching the broadcast on my TV which obviously has a lot of gandh on it?

I'm trying to make you think outside the box a little. I'm not going to feel guilty reading Paat on my laptop. I understand that there is gandh online... But I'm not watching that stuff... I'm reading Bani. When you guys do parchar like this, there's one thing you don't realize: you are breaking people away from Bani (not on purpose). You make reading Bani so difficult, that many people will not even bother, or feel guilty about doing so. Please open your mind and realize that when you write things like this, you could be influencing a lot of people to also live in a paranoid, guilt ridden state. Not a good way to live bro.

Veer ji,

I was saying that if you are in that frame of mind to use gandh (the original subject was porn) One should try to stay away from it altogether ...if you can't manage that, then don't do it in the same situation/place like veer's example his bedroom where you do Bani and try to keep that place shudh , I mean Puarantan Sewaks keep their Akhand path Raul clothes specifically for that sewa, they don't use those clothes for any other thing in their life. There is a reason for it , we need to keep clean inside our minds and outside in body and behaviour, and wearing those clothes help them stay focussed o their sewa.

If we know that we have that kaami content on the machine our mind which is dheeth will wander into thoughts which have no place when we are trying to do Simarna of Akal Purakh, it is hard enough to control the mind on shudh ucharan , gurbani vichar without knowingly put distraction/temptations in the way of our subconscious.

I don't want people to stop getting laaha I just want them not to be their own enemies and make it ten times harder