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Is it okay for a Sikh to marry a mixed Sikh? The person is half white but was raised as a Sikh and is a strong believer in Sikhism. Our Rehit says that a Sikh must marry a Sikh, but does it say anything about mixed race?

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Is it okay for a Sikh to marry a mixed Sikh? The person is half white but was raised as a Sikh and is a strong believer in Sikhism. Our Rehit says that a Sikh must marry a Sikh, but does it say anything about mixed race?

Of course lol if the person is a Sikh then you are completely fine. No discrimination against whatever type of race in Sikhi. Remember that.

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remind me of the teacher who insisted my kids were half sikh and half brasilian ...honestly people PLEASE one is a faith the other a nationality ...my kids are fully Sikh and so is your other half if he does practise Sikhi only

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remind me of the teacher who insisted my kids were half sikh and half brasilian ...honestly people PLEASE one is a faith the other a nationality ...my kids are fully Sikh and so is your other half if he does practise Sikhi only

I'm interested jkvlondon, how did it come about that you married a Brazilian man ?

I mean, was it that you were both Sikhs and found each other as Sikhs, or did Sikhism come to both of you later in the relationship ?

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I'm interested jkvlondon, how did it come about that you married a Brazilian man ?

I mean, was it that you were both Sikhs and found each other as Sikhs, or did Sikhism come to both of you later in the relationship ?

I have always been sikh and it was my Sikhi that intrigued my husband , and so he came onto our way of thinking about the universe ... our kids are amritdhari but although he has kept his kes, goes Gurdwara , only eats/lives as an amritdhari would in our home ,he has not got to the point of sanchar readiness himself and I am waiting for him although I do my duties as per normal in Sikhi.

In the meantime , have to do the right thing and get the kids battle-ready they are going to see a very anarchaic time in their lives when the fossil fuels peter out, food shortages due to toxicity of soils and of course worldwide Caliphate attempts. Bani and warrior training...

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I have always been sikh and it was my Sikhi that intrigued my husband , and so he came onto our way of thinking about the universe ... our kids are amritdhari but although he has kept his kes, goes Gurdwara , only eats/lives as an amritdhari would in our home ,he has not got to the point of sanchar readiness himself and I am waiting for him although I do my duties as per normal in Sikhi.

In the meantime , have to do the right thing and get the kids battle-ready they are going to see a very anarchaic time in their lives when the fossil fuels peter out, food shortages due to toxicity of soils and of course worldwide Caliphate attempts. Bani and warrior training...

I can see you're on the right path now....that much is clear...But how did it come about in the first place for you, a Sikh girl, to fall in love with and marry, a Brazilian fella ?

Are you an example of the numerous threads we have here about 'sikh girls running off with black and white men' ?

I ask because if you are you are a wonderful example of what great things might possibly result from such a relationship with regards to Sikhi.

Reagrding your kids......don't scare them. I'm guessing yours are round about the same age as mine and I think its more important we fill their heads with the wonderful nature of Waheguru's creation...i.e how wonderful life, the trees (even xmas trees), the grass, the bees etc are rather than negativity. Teach them how the definition of a Gursikh is to be good, caring human beings and the fight for justice and truth will naturally follow.

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I can see you're on the right path now....that much is clear...But how did it come about in the first place for you, a Sikh girl, to fall in love with and marry, a Brazilian fella ?

Are you an example of the numerous threads we have here about 'sikh girls running off with black and white men' ?

I ask because if you are you are a wonderful example of what great things might possibly result from such a relationship with regards to Sikhi.

Reagrding your kids......don't scare them. I'm guessing yours are round about the same age as mine and I think its more important we fill their heads with the wonderful nature of Waheguru's creation...i.e how wonderful life, the trees (even xmas trees), the grass, the bees etc are rather than negativity. Teach them how the definition of a Gursikh is to be good, caring human beings and the fight for justice and truth will naturally follow.

no ...I believe in the truth and live by it ...we were in university together but before anything progressed I told my folks, and of course they said No so I waited until they had met him so they could be aware of his personality and thinking . He never said run away he totally agreed that parents had give blessings on both sides . They could see that he was not like the other western guys and so placed a year's wait before thinking about engagement we waited meanwhile I worked and lived with them and he lived his life. In the meantime Dad had gone to India and asked Mahapurakh about situation and bachan was Angelo would become a Gursikh, so Dad was happy to go ahead with the Magni but again put another year wait condition that went smoothly and we had Anand Karaj where we both wholeheartedly agreed to bring up or children in SIkhi .

So you see I knew him and his personality and viewpoints on life for 6 years before getting married and we have been married now 19 years this month. We've had tough times but Waheguru's kirpa has always been on us , my kids ask me and I tell them truthfully it is too hard a path to take successfully unless you really are as one on life direction, you can be from two different colours/cultures but you need to have Sikhi in common to make it work.

I keep that info about future challenges to me , they only know that Mum's teaching them bani, Punjabi and signing us up for martial arts

The worse thing we can do is leave them unable to cope with the world gone to hell, they need to be resourceful and able.

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The worse thing we can do is leave them unable to cope with the world gone to hell

The world has not 'gone to hell'.

The previous generation (my dad) used to share bottles of sharab at the outside langar hall of the old Havelock Road Gurdwara in Southall every Sunday afternoon. Now, that new rebuilt Gurdwara on the same site is a world famous bastion of Sikhi. WE HAVE GONE AWAY FROM HELL.

The previous generation (my mum) were too uneducated to even know the difference between Sikhism and Hinduism and so had Hindu practices in their everyday Sikhi. We don't see that no more. WE HAVE GONE AWAY FROM HELL.

In the second generation of UK born 'Sikhs' (me) , hardly any of us were taught anything about Sikhi...hardly any of us were taught kirtan, gatka etc. Now, this 3rd generation (my children) is putting us to shame. WE HAVE GONE AWAY FROM HELL.

Please sis, please don't ever pass that negativity of yours on to your kids. If anything, teach them of the importance of chardi kala. It is human nature to think things today are worse than they used to be. The fact is they seldom are when one looks at it with clear eyes. Always remember that many here on this website look at your example of how how your adult life took shape and lament "oh how things have gone to hell". Just as you, and not them, know that it was in actual fact 'heaven' we have to understand how one man's heaven is another man's hell. When we bear that in mind the only thing left for us to do is try and follow in the footsteps of Guru ji. One of who rose above these limitations and insecurities of man.

The fact is, life is truly wonderful. Life is better today than it has ever been before. Truly wonderful.

Water table finishing ? Gas supplies running out ? Our governments making constant wars ? Yes, all are true but these are not problems that can't be solved by our children if they embrace education, fight for truth and reach positions of power.

We have gone from hell into heaven with this current generation of very young Sikhs.

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I have always been sikh and it was my Sikhi that intrigued my husband , and so he came onto our way of thinking about the universe ... our kids are amritdhari but although he has kept his kes, goes Gurdwara , only eats/lives as an amritdhari would in our home ,he has not got to the point of sanchar readiness himself and I am waiting for him although I do my duties as per normal in Sikhi.

In the meantime , have to do the right thing and get the kids battle-ready they are going to see a very anarchaic time in their lives when the fossil fuels peter out, food shortages due to toxicity of soils and of course worldwide Caliphate attempts. Bani and warrior training...

WJKK WJKF

Bhen ji, it's great to hear your personal story, it sets a excellent example of sikhi being raceless. Unfortunately, if many of our own panjabi Sikhs understood that sikhi was also casteless, the panth would move forward quicker and more united. However as you see on this site, many so called Sikhs who declare their ancestry in pride act like their beacons of the faith at the same time indulging manmatt and living by their own personal maryada, yet in individual cases people like your father show what a true Gurmukh would do!

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Is it okay for a Sikh to marry a mixed Sikh? The person is half white but was raised as a Sikh and is a strong believer in Sikhism. Our Rehit says that a Sikh must marry a Sikh, but does it say anything about mixed race?

Kudos to you for asking if you don't know. However, some where along the way you like so many others have been failed by us miserably in being taught Sikhi basics. This is a huge problem in punjabi culture.

That kind of thought process is worthy of white supremacists and KKK, It is completely opposite to Sikh thinking and should be blasted a million miles out of sight. It can not remain on a Sikh site as merely advised upon. 'Half white', meaning from the waste up? What were were the original races again? Caucasian, Mongloid, Negroid and Punjaboidiot. So sorry people, but when fail our kids and insult our guruji's like this, someone needs to yell from the rooftops!!

If Sikhs were true to Sikhi, it would be the most mixed race faith in the world with the most diverse languages spoken. Instead we are mostly a indo/hindu mush. somewhat self hating, somewhat hating all others, somewhat not having a clue...all wrapped up in a comfortable "proud punjabi".

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ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ, ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ

The world has not 'gone to hell'.

Bhaji, with respect, we think you may have mistakenly taken the comment out of context. Perhaps, bhenji's point was emphasizing the need to educate young Sikhs.

However, we also understand your point about how much Sikhi has made (and is making) progress. We see and hear this a lot. And yes, Chardi Kala is a fundamental concept.

ਕਲਿ ਕਾਲਖ ਅੰਧਿਆਰੀਆ ॥ In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, there is only pitch darkness.

~ Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji

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