Sikh Girls Marrying Muslim Boys

[MisterrSingh]

If anyone is actually fascinated by bad boys, it is because they are similar in personality e.g. sex-driven, immature and bad-mannered. What kind of relationship can you possibly gain with a bad boy? These bad boys are laughable.

A female of a certain mindset who chases after the above type of guy thinks she'll be the one who finally "tames the wayward beast." It's a huge ego-trip in most cases, in terms of over-valuing her own feminine wiles and hoping the guy starts to behave himself under her so-called good influence. In other cases it's just raw animal attraction; the masculine power of the "rebel" is too much to resist for most women. Sure, she'll most likely be used and discarded like many before her, but she won't care that much. For the short while she's in a relationship with that type of guy it electrifies her entire existence.

[Big_Tera]

But one thing i dont understand is why do most the muslims sikh girls marry tend to be pakistani

Pakistanis tend to be on welfare low education marry there sisters as well dont have a history to be proud of

There ancestors were hindus converted by the sword

There is no one word answer for your question. Its a combination of various factors,

Its hard for you and I to comprehend why this is happening because we mostly relate these situations to ourselves.

alot of Sikhs come from single parent families where there is no father figure or come from unstable family backgrounds. These girls unfortunately just have not got that strong parental guidance that is needed and go astray.

Another is the population demographics of Muslims and Sikhs. I probably think that this occurs mostly in Muslim areas . Hence Sikh girls are going to universities and colleges around the country that is mostly populated by Muslims hence their frienship groups probably mostly consist of muslims I remember going to college and I was one of about 5 Sikhs in the whole college the rest was muslim. its alot to do with numbers. go to black dominated areas and what you will find is alot of white girls going with black guys. As there are hardly any white people in the area.

[Big_Tera]

A female of a certain mindset who chases after the above type of guy thinks she'll be the one who finally "tames the wayward beast." It's a huge ego-trip in most cases, in terms of over-valuing her own feminine wiles and hoping the guy starts to behave himself under her so-called good influence. In other cases it's just raw animal attraction; the masculine power of the "rebel" is too much to resist for most women. Sure, she'll most likely be used and discarded like many before her, but she won't care that much. For the short while she's in a relationship with that type of guy it electrifies her entire existence.

How can being with a muslim male electrify ones existence. it will probably lead to eating halal food and wearing a hijab. if that is an idea of happiness then these girls need their head testing.

[MisterrSingh]

How can being with a muslim male electrify ones existence. it will probably lead to eating halal food and wearing a hijab. if that is an idea of happiness then these girls need their head testing.

I know that and you know that, but in the head of a particular type of girl she's breaking all kinds of cultural and religious taboos. It excites her. She's not thinking long term about the implications of her apparent lust. It's all about the short term thrill.

For other girls it's not a long term pursuit at all, just a fling or a sordid tryst, one of many guys they're trying out for the sake of novelty. For others who fall in "love" it's the real deal.

[Balkaar]

A female of a certain mindset who chases after the above type of guy thinks she'll be the one who finally "tames the wayward beast." It's a huge ego-trip in most cases, in terms of over-valuing her own feminine wiles and hoping the guy starts to behave himself under her so-called good influence. In other cases it's just raw animal attraction; the masculine power of the "rebel" is too much to resist for most women. Sure, she'll most likely be used and discarded like many before her, but she won't care that much. For the short while she's in a relationship with that type of guy it electrifies her entire existence.

I'd bet if Satan the prince of darkness appeared on this Earth today, some woman somewhere would fall in love with him and convince herself that "I can change him".

Tame the wayward beast, quite literally.

[Ranjeet01]

I'd bet if Satan the prince of darkness appeared on this Earth today, some woman somewhere would fall in love with him and convince herself that "I can change him".

Tame the wayward beast, quite literally.

It's the same mentality you see with the women who marry prison convicts.

[JagsawSingh]

Before I say anything else let me state that I think it is very telling that we're making thread after thread about 'Sikh girls marrying Muslims' when the problem of 'Sikh girls marrying Christians' is 500 times bigger than this problem in America and Canada.

But, now this thread is here, lets contribute to it productively;

All this talk above about 'girls being attracted to bad boys' is a bit of a red herring. We all seem to be looking at the mirpuris of Balsall Heath, Bradford and Luton and the Bengalis of the East End and forming our judgements about all of them from that.

The reality, however, is that if you go for example to any Hospital in the UK and observe the student doctors etc, you'll see how common it is for Muslim girls in Hijabs and educated Muslim men to be there, and I'm talking about good decent muslim men.

What you will never find there however...NEVER....are dastar wearing Sikh girls. By and large we Sikhs have this problem where our dastar wearing Amritdharis tend to be uneducated types. It is almost the norm in our community for those that are not too interested or not too inclined towards study to go down the route of paath and simran. Our parcharaks don't help either because they like to quote Gurbani in justifying how it is futile to debate or intellectually discuss things. The result is that we now have, especially in the UK, a massive and growing young British born Amritdhari population of boys and girls but the common denonimator of most of them is the fact that they're not really into study but really really into doing path.

So, if you're a fairly average Sikh girl....not a bad person....not into drinking etc but at the same time not obviously that religious you will, when you go to University or start your medical placement etc, become friends with Muslims. Our boys in those places and in those situations are more or less into white girls and dastar wearing girls don't tend to be that eduacted in the first place. Therefore, you will work with, study with, socialise with and become friends with Muslims.

My point is that in my line, it is mostly 'sikh' girls that are very highly educated who are with equally educated Muslim men. In my experience the problem exists more in the higher ends than the lower 'bad boy - drug dealing' ends.

The root of the problem then, is our attitude and our parcharaks. We have this stereotype image of the hijab wearing Muslim girl being opressed and kept at home but the reality is that they, as a community, place an incredible value on education and the sciences and these hidden veiled women are reaching incredible positions of respect and power through education. We, on the other hand, have a very serious problem and its a problem that is going to haunt us in the future. Our problem is that our young who go amritdhari tend to be those that are not really that good at education and see the full-time path and simran lifestyle as a welcome alternative to the pressures of western education. The cornerstone of education is the willingness and ability to debate things....argue points....question things. Our parcharaks however, say Gurbani teaches us that only fools debate things, argue points, question things. The result is and will be a whole generation of people that can do excellent path and simran but are extremely badly educated. Trust me, it is mostly at this higher end where we're losing most of our Sikh girls to muslims. Thats all happening while most of you are still mistakingly fixated with the lower end bad-boy types.

[MisterrSingh]

Edit - I was in a rush. Wasn't making sense.

In summary, don't fall into the trap of assuming UK Muslims are ghetto dwellers and benefit claimants across the board.

[Balkaar]

The result is and will be a whole generation of people that can do excellent path and simran but are extremely badly educated. Trust me, it is mostly at this higher end where we're losing most of our Sikh girls to muslims. Thats all happening while most of you are still mistakingly fixated with the lower end bad-boy types.

I'd never thought about it that way. Excellent post Jagsaw.

It's the same mentality you see with the women who marry prison convicts.

I can only imagine that such women encounter great difficulty finding a man on the outside, and so they feel compelled to make advances upon a man who cannot escape them and who is probably very grateful for the attention. Combine these feelings of overpowering loneliness with the element of compassion, and the result is as you describe veerji.

[Ranjeet01]

Before I say anything else let me state that I think it is very telling that we're making thread after thread about 'Sikh girls marrying Muslims' when the problem of 'Sikh girls marrying Christians' is 500 times bigger than this problem in America and Canada.

But, now this thread is here, lets contribute to it productively;

All this talk above about 'girls being attracted to bad boys' is a bit of a red herring. We all seem to be looking at the mirpuris of Balsall Heath, Bradford and Luton and the Bengalis of the East End and forming our judgements about all of them from that.

The reality, however, is that if you go for example to any Hospital in the UK and observe the student doctors etc, you'll see how common it is for Muslim girls in Hijabs and educated Muslim men to be there, and I'm talking about good decent muslim men.

What you will never find there however...NEVER....are dastar wearing Sikh girls. By and large we Sikhs have this problem where our dastar wearing Amritdharis tend to be uneducated types. It is almost the norm in our community for those that are not too interested or not too inclined towards study to go down the route of paath and simran. Our parcharaks don't help either because they like to quote Gurbani in justifying how it is futile to debate or intellectually discuss things. The result is that we now have, especially in the UK, a massive and growing young British born Amritdhari population of boys and girls but the common denonimator of most of them is the fact that they're not really into study but really really into doing path.

So, if you're a fairly average Sikh girl....not a bad person....not into drinking etc but at the same time not obviously that religious you will, when you go to University or start your medical placement etc, become friends with Muslims. Our boys in those places and in those situations are more or less into white girls and dastar wearing girls don't tend to be that eduacted in the first place. Therefore, you will work with, study with, socialise with and become friends with Muslims.

My point is that in my line, it is mostly 'sikh' girls that are very highly educated who are with equally educated Muslim men. In my experience the problem exists more in the higher ends than the lower 'bad boy - drug dealing' ends.

The root of the problem then, is our attitude and our parcharaks. We have this stereotype image of the hijab wearing Muslim girl being opressed and kept at home but the reality is that they, as a community, place an incredible value on education and the sciences and these hidden veiled women are reaching incredible positions of respect and power through education. We, on the other hand, have a very serious problem and its a problem that is going to haunt us in the future. Our problem is that our young who go amritdhari tend to be those that are not really that good at education and see the full-time path and simran lifestyle as a welcome alternative to the pressures of western education. The cornerstone of education is the willingness and ability to debate things....argue points....question things. Our parcharaks however, say Gurbani teaches us that only fools debate things, argue points, question things. The result is and will be a whole generation of people that can do excellent path and simran but are extremely badly educated. Trust me, it is mostly at this higher end where we're losing most of our Sikh girls to muslims. Thats all happening while most of you are still mistakingly fixated with the lower end bad-boy types.

I know of quite a few well educated Amritdhari couples that are professionals , so I am not sure at what extent the amritdhari population is uneducated. You are making them sound as if they are like the ultra - orthodox jews.

I also know personally of a Sikh couple who are both in medicine, one is a GP and the other one is a surgeon.

Of course, you will see more muslims in University getting educated as they move up the food chain. Ironically, the universities are also big recruiting ground for a lot of the radicalisation that takes place.