Disgraceful Behaviour By Thug Committee Member

[StarStriker]

Well sunny hundal has now released a Q&A of his beliefs on this whole sham marraige fisaco of the past 2 weeks. He has now confimed to me wat type of person he is, as a poster on his thread asks him "Sunny does this mean you consider your brother (jagraj singh from basics of sikhi) radicalised? He replies with "Absolutely"!! His brother is the man, whos single-handedly changed the sikh community and our knowledge of sikhi and will continue to do so in this country and worldwide, via multi-lingual parchar, yet this guy has the nerve to call his brother jagraj, as radicalised! Unbelivable!

I dont ever remember watchin a video of jagraj's, where he has urged all sikhs to start killing all non-believers!

https://www.facebook.com/sunnyhundalorg/posts/879516755451742

[Singh559]

The person who asked those questions has a fake profile/doesn't have a profile picture.

There is no talk of purest form that Sunny is parroting. The trolls on this website post exactly what he posted about making sure Sikhi is pure. He's looking for an excuse to create a demon out of nothing in order to legitimize himself in the public eye.

It's simple, someone who isn't a Sikh can't get an Anand Karaj and there are democratic and bureaucratic ways to ensure it won't happen. When this happens Sunny will probably try to find another angle on this issue. Right now his only legitimacy is fighting against force and violence which so far hasn't been an issue and most of us know that it won't be an issue.

[StarStriker]

Oh look who's got a bee in her crappy crusty OLD bonnet, its the secretly anti-sikh buddi, anita kapoor, talkin nonsense, n meddlin with sikh affairs AGAIN on bbc 4.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p030k8hd

[Jonny101]

Oh look who's got a bee in her crappy crusty OLD bonnet, its the secretly anti-sikh buddi, anita kapoor, talkin nonsense, n meddlin with sikh affairs AGAIN on bbc 4.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p030k8hd

Its one thing when you have uninformed Sikhs saying there should be inter faith anand karaj, but worst thing is when you have non-sikhs thinking they have a say in our internal matters as if our Gurdwaras are secular community centers.

[StarStriker]

Its one thing when you have uninformed Sikhs saying there should be inter faith anand karaj, but worst thing is when you have non-sikhs thinking they have a say in our internal matters as if our Gurdwaras are secular community centers.

Exactly man, i mean did u c the way, she kept referring to guru ji as "granth sahib"?! When shamsher singh was talkin of how the 1st verse of the 4 lavvan explains how u must renounce other dharams n believ in the guru, look at how she keeps shaking her head everytime the singh is explainin our dharam.

[proactive]

Shamsher Singh did really well but I think he should have challenged that old nut job kapoor about her constant referring to the Guru Granth Sahib as well as why is getting involved in the affairs of Sikhs.

[sikhstudent99]

Well sunny hundal has now released a Q&A of his beliefs on this whole sham marraige fisaco of the past 2 weeks. He has now confimed to me wat type of person he is, as a poster on his thread asks him "Sunny does this mean you consider your brother (jagraj singh from basics of sikhi) radicalised? He replies with "Absolutely"!! His brother is the man, whos single-handedly changed the sikh community and our knowledge of sikhi and will continue to do so in this country and worldwide, via multi-lingual parchar, yet this guy has the nerve to call his brother jagraj, as radicalised! Unbelivable!

I dont ever remember watchin a video of jagraj's, where he has urged all sikhs to start killing all non-believers!

https://www.facebook.com/sunnyhundalorg/posts/879516755451742

R sunny an jagraj real brother

[StarStriker]

R sunny an jagraj real brother

Yes.

[Ranjeet01]

Well sunny hundal has now released a Q&A of his beliefs on this whole sham marraige fisaco of the past 2 weeks. He has now confimed to me wat type of person he is, as a poster on his thread asks him "Sunny does this mean you consider your brother (jagraj singh from basics of sikhi) radicalised? He replies with "Absolutely"!! His brother is the man, whos single-handedly changed the sikh community and our knowledge of sikhi and will continue to do so in this country and worldwide, via multi-lingual parchar, yet this guy has the nerve to call his brother jagraj, as radicalised! Unbelivable!

I dont ever remember watchin a video of jagraj's, where he has urged all sikhs to start killing all non-believers!

https://www.facebook.com/sunnyhundalorg/posts/879516755451742

Me thinks that there is definitely some sibling rivalry/jealousy from Sunny.

[Singh, Mahan]

Sikh Federation UK Issues a Press Note

On

Negative biased and exaggerated media portrayal of Sikh Anand Karaj ceremony

Source: https://www.facebook.com/SikhFederationUK/posts/880632835358270

RESS NOTICE

Negative, biased and exaggerated media portrayal of those protesting to uphold the protocols for the sacred Sikh religious wedding ceremony, the Anand Karaj amounts to discrimination and needs to stop

London – 3 September 2015

We are increasingly concerned about the negative and biased mainstream media portrayal of those peacefully protesting to uphold the protocols involved with the sacred Sikh religious wedding ceremony, the Anand Karaj.

Use of terms like ‘militants’ and ‘thugs’ in headlines from two isolated incidences where protests have taken place, but when no violence on the part of protesters was involved and no charges or arrests were made is being blown out of all proportions by irresponsible media reporting.

The latest is an article earlier this week in the Daily Telegraph under the offensive headline of: 'Religious militants force mixed-faith couples to abandon wedding ceremonies'

This followed an article several weeks ago in the Independent under the headline: ‘Wedding between Sikh bride and non-Sikh groom stopped by 'thugs' at London temple’

In essence these two isolated cases involved internal disputes between those protesting that wanted the management of these Gurdwaras to uphold established protocols and not to give in to various pressures that naturally exist.

We estimate around three thousand Anand Karaj ceremonies have taken place in the last 5-6 weeks in Britain’s 250 or so Gurdwaras without any need for protests. Hundreds of couples and their families have been educated about the significance of the Anand Karaj ceremony before going through with it or amicably agreeing to on an alternative arrangement as the couple were not both Sikhs.

The media is failing to adequately explain that protests are very rare and are not targeting the couples but the management committees of Gurdwaras and are about those permitted to partake in the Anand Karaj ceremony. Mixed faith couples that wish to get married are free to do so through a civil ceremony or a religious ceremony that is acceptable and understood by the couple and sanctioned by the relevant authorities that govern the place of worship in question i.e. church, synagogue, temple or mosque etc. Where the bride or groom are Sikh they can still attend the Gurdwara and alternative blessings can be given where friends and family can be invited.

Those with an understanding of the Anand Karaj know it is based on established protocols established by the Sikh Gurus that have been in place for hundreds of years and that these are not subject to negotiation. The recent media headlines appear to have come about as a personal vendetta by a certain freelance journalist mentioned in both articles who has also introduced the highly offensive term Sikh 'Taliban’.

Several radio presenters, some are of Sikh origin, have continued with such abusive terms that in effect amount to racism. Such individuals who are of Sikh origin clearly do not agree with the teachings of the Sikh Gurus and believe they have a licence to use their positions and contacts in the media to offend and unnecessarily bring Sikh religious practices into disrepute.

Sikhs respect other religions, however our Gurus provided a distinct path in its own right with unique emphasis on the equality of all human beings. Sikhs are urged to live honestly, work hard and to look to the needs of their family and wider society. Sikhs believe in one God, the creator of all that exists and is beyond human understanding.

While many faiths share our belief in one God, their view of God is of someone having human attributes of gender, birth, favouritism, jealousy and anger. Sikhism uniquely is in favour of married life and this belief is central to the Anand Karaj ceremony in which the bride and groom affirm that they will henceforth be as one in mutual support and service to family and wider society.

Sikhism teaches that we should be open and honest in our behaviour, particularly in a Gurdwara, and it is therefore wrong for any couple to go through an Anand Karaj with no intention of living according to Sikh teachings as emphasised in the Anand Karaj ceremony. The four perambulations in the Anand Karaj ceremony around the Guru Granth Sahib, the Sikh Holy Scriptures, are a reminder of this.

There is considerable community frustration that important issues around human rights and identity discrimination continue to be largely ignored by the media, but there is some sort of obsession around the need for the Anand Karaj ceremony to be available to mixed-faith couples. This naturally raises some serious concerns around the motivation or intent with the continued pursuit of this issue from a negative, biased and exaggerated point of view.

The media have so far failed to compare Sikh practices with other major religions in this area, which are very similar if not more stringent. This kind of reporting targeting one particular religion and its sacred ceremonies and practices by those who do not understand, believe or follow the faith is discrimination and needs to stop.

Gurjeet Singh
National Press Secretary
Sikh Federation (UK)