Should we choose a faction or remain factionless

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, Thanatos said:

I lost interest after the second book in all honesty, Seems like there's a nice trend going on in post-apocalyptic society based books. Makes me wonder if people are finally thinking a bit. 

nah it's programming to expect the dytopian model to become the norm ... anyway Guru Sahiban have already told to expect it and worse and to conquer it through sikhi

[Guest Jacfsing2]

3 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Why are you guys so obsessed with caste.

This topic is not about caste based divisions 

"Faction before blood/lineage"

It is about choosing a particular stream.

Like joining Akhand Kirtani Jatha to learn Kirtan or studying Santhiya from Damdami Taksal or learning Martial Arts from Nihangs.

Being skilled in only one thing isn't the best ideal either, since you got the idea from Divergent you would notice she could choose any of 3 castes, (factions), among 5 total. In an ideal society, nobody would only get 60% of the choices, (if they got choose), she was born in the caste, (faction), Abnegation, but changed her caste, (faction), at least 2 times.

[jkvlondon]

3 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Why are you guys so obsessed with caste.

This topic is not about caste based divisions 

"Faction before blood/lineage"

It is about choosing a particular stream.

Like joining Akhand Kirtani Jatha to learn Kirtan or studying Santhiya from Damdami Taksal or learning Martial Arts from Nihangs.

all sikhs have to learn to do shudh paat, be knowledgeable in dharam, do kirtan , be shastardhari (holding is not the same as being able to use effectively) each sikh represents the parents and the panth - besides all those jathebandis would all say we are sikhs not flanna flanna sikh , we are sikhs of Guru Granth sahib ji and Guru Panth Sahib ji

[singhbj singh]

10 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Being skilled in only one thing isn't the best ideal either, since you got the idea from Divergent you would notice she could choose any of 3 castes, (factions), among 5 total. In an ideal society, nobody would only get 60% of the choices, (if they got choose), she was born in the caste, (faction), Abnegation, but changed her caste, (faction), at least 2 times.

Did you read about "Factionless".

"There is one more group that is not part of the social classes or factions. These are the Factionless. These are the people who failed to complete their initiation into whatever faction they chose and live in poverty, doing the work no one else wants to do."

In reality people belonging to similar faction or jatha get preferential treatment.

Akj's marry akj, Ddt's help in placements of ddt religious workers abroad.

 

[singhbj singh]

10 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

all sikhs have to learn to do shudh paat, be knowledgeable in dharam, do kirtan , be shastardhari (holding is not the same as being able to use effectively) each sikh represents the parents and the panth - besides all those jathebandis would all say we are sikhs not flanna flanna sikh , we are sikhs of Guru Granth sahib ji and Guru Panth Sahib ji

"Jack of all king of none"

That is the reason system has not produced Khalsa but khasis, pappu's & chakkas !

Where are the dauntless when you need them ?

[jkvlondon]

I think the point of the movie escaped you , the heroes and rescuers were the multitalented i.e. people who couldn't be put into a box. Besides that little idiom you posted has nothing to do with sikhi , which is the path of the masters.

[singhbj singh]

I'm not concerned with what happened in the book or movie.

Just interested in the factions concept.

Take the case of Bhindranwale, trained to be a Granthi & Pracharak changed faction from Erudite to Dauntless.

Got misused by politicians (both punjab & center) due to superficial knowledge of politics, created chaos that ended in disaster.

De Facto, generalist-divergent ideology didn't work.

 

[jkvlondon]

10 minutes ago, singhbj singh said:

I'm not concerned with what happened in the book or movie.

Just interested in the factions concept.

Take the case of Bhindranwale, trained to be a Granthi & Pracharak changed faction from Erudite to Dauntless.

Got misused by politicians (both punjab & center) due to superficial knowledge of politics, created chaos that ended in disaster.

De Facto, generalist-divergent ideology didn't work.

 

oh so that's your game , Sant ji bashing get F out of here ... take your warped views and scram

[pardesanbibbi2]

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[muscleman]

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