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Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Daas wanted to know if Bhagti was inherited, because when pregnant mothers do lots of Bhagti while they are expecting the child usually becomes a person of higher Gurmat; however, there are some mothers who didn't do a lot of Bhagti and their children still turned out great, in terms of Gurmat. Also what can the father do to assist the child's Bhagti before the child is born, because it always seems like the mother's responsibility for Pre-Birth Simran? Also don't bring-up the issues of Mahapurukhs since many are sent by Vaheguru, and have been Pre-Mukt before they came, even Gurbani says they are exceptional. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

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Guru Nanak Dev jis parents performed a lot of bhagti in their past life for a pious son. That is why Guru Nanak Dev ji was born to them. Bibi Nanki was with Guru Nanak Dev Ji in many past lives as wel

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So Mata Sulkani did not do any bhagti is that why Guru Nanak Nirankars sons' did not follow the path of their father the Lord God...?? such nonsense.   

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When a spiritual soul comes down to Maat-lokh those from SatchKhand look for a worthy womb. They will wait until a mother also of high spiritual level is available and send the soul down to her. So it

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How many bhagtann mothers have you heard of in this day and of maha/ghorr kalyug where 99.99 per cent of the women population are surrounded with the likes of bollywood, hollywood, pop scenes, songs with filthy innuendos, sitcoms and drama series? Have you not noticed, gurdwara Sangat is packed with chuggalkhorrs?  I have not come across any and neither have I heard of many.  

Most of them have become coconuts, atheists with hippy lifestyles to be honest.  Even if there are 3 such women, read my lips now, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT the 100 percent or the rest of the women population, only, minuscule!

Stop fantisizing and day dreaming. 

Daas doesn't expect that you understand the point trying to get across, the difference is not that the mother is a Bhagat, but does Bhagti for before the child is born, (while she is pregnant), not on their daily normal lives. Also Daas was asking a question about the proper way for the mothers, not what humanity is going through right now, but rather an ideal.

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How many bhagtann mothers have you heard of in this day and of maha/ghorr kalyug where 99.99 per cent of the women population are surrounded with the likes of bollywood, hollywood, pop scenes, songs with filthy innuendos, sitcoms and drama series? Have you not noticed, gurdwara Sangat is packed with chuggalkhorrs?  I have not come across any and neither have I heard of many.  

Most of them have become coconuts, atheists with hippy lifestyles to be honest.  Even if there are 3 such women, read my lips now, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT the 100 percent or the rest of the women population, only, minuscule!

Stop fantisizing and day dreaming. 

the whole hateful speech you gave has zero to do with addressing the question ...try learning to think before speaking . A Sikh doesn't disparage women just cos he wants to ...if you are worried about outside influences complain about the fathers of these girls/women who don't take their parental roles seriously when they have to deal with teaching gurmat to their daughters whilst they are growing . Dhiley fathers produce dhiley children. 

you wouldn't hear a bhagatan or see one as you seem to pay more attention to the people that are not and a bhagtan would hardly mix with them. besides you do not need to be a brahmgiani just nitnemi khalsa bibi to be better than the people you have a problem with .

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Also what can the father do to assist the child's Bhagti before the child is born, because it always seems like the mother's responsibility for Pre-Birth Simran?

Guru Nanak Dev jis parents performed a lot of bhagti in their past life for a pious son. That is why Guru Nanak Dev ji was born to them. Bibi Nanki was with Guru Nanak Dev Ji in many past lives as well. 

Our past bhagti and the reason for which we perform that bhagti will greatly influence the results which we get - no matter what gender you are. 

Bhagti cannot be inherited, however we are born to people who have similar avasta to ours. So we have been with our families for quite some time even before this janam. Slowly we changed as families to turn to Gurmat or away from it. Even one person who turns to Gurmat will save the whole family. This is because slowly - the mental attitude of all will start to change and turn to Gurmat. However this will happen over a repeated number of births - it is a slow process. ape beej ape hi kao

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23 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Daas wanted to know if Bhagti was inherited, because when pregnant mothers do lots of Bhagti while they are expecting the child usually becomes a person of higher Gurmat; however, there are some mothers who didn't do a lot of Bhagti and their children still turned out great, in terms of Gurmat. Also what can the father do to assist the child's Bhagti before the child is born, because it always seems like the mother's responsibility for Pre-Birth Simran? Also don't bring-up the issues of Mahapurukhs since many are sent by Vaheguru, and have been Pre-Mukt before they came, even Gurbani says they are exceptional. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

This is complete and utter nonsense. This is like the Catholicism belief we are all born with sin, then how can we be free and be redeemed? no one but I/You has any control over how much bhagti is done, we are the ones who can steer ourselves, the parent is the teacher, should he/she put them on the path they may follow it, some fall off it and some do so of their own accord. Saying that no harm will come from any amount of Simran done by the mother. Sikhi is so easy and clear to follow but people make it so difficult with nonsense beliefs of their own and preaching this that and the other. 

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Guru Nanak Dev jis parents performed a lot of bhagti in their past life for a pious son. That is why Guru Nanak Dev ji was born to them. Bibi Nanki was with Guru Nanak Dev Ji in many past lives as well. 

Our past bhagti and the reason for which we perform that bhagti will greatly influence the results which we get - no matter what gender you are. 

Bhagti cannot be inherited, however we are born to people who have similar avasta to ours. So we have been with our families for quite some time even before this janam. Slowly we changed as families to turn to Gurmat or away from it. Even one person who turns to Gurmat will save the whole family. This is because slowly - the mental attitude of all will start to change and turn to Gurmat. However this will happen over a repeated number of births - it is a slow process. ape beej ape hi kao

So Mata Sulkani did not do any bhagti is that why Guru Nanak Nirankars sons' did not follow the path of their father the Lord God...?? such nonsense. 

 

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So Mata Sulkani did not do any bhagti is that why Guru Nanak Nirankars sons' did not follow the path of their father the Lord God...?? such nonsense. 

It can be outrightly dangerous to make your own conclusions about things that have not been stated at all. if you feel you want to into a deep trench then dont take others with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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