Amritdharis marrying hair-cut spouses - <banned word filter activated> Jagmeet Singh ?

[GurjantGnostic 1,364]

Last question regarding this. Do they say Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh or no?

[Sukhvirk1976 288]

On 18/01/2018 at 4:19 PM, monatosingh said:

Why don't you check Akal Takth Maryada (seeing as that what he is probably following) and find if he is doing anything bad?

Can you please clarify what the akal takht maryada you accept is.. This is a leading question so please let's do this 

[TheeTurbanator 308]

5 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Do they say Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh or no?

Some might, but most don’t. This is mainly because they reject the authority and beliefs of the Khalsa, otherwise they would have the dignity not to create their own Gurus. 

[GurjantGnostic 1,364]

6 minutes ago, TheeTurbanator said:

Some might, but most don’t. This is mainly because they reject the authority and beliefs of the Khalsa, otherwise they would have the dignity not to create their own Gurus. 

I noticed the phrase conspicuously absent. Thank you ji. 

[TheeTurbanator 308]

No problem, you’re a cool person, keep up the good vibes. 

[TheeTurbanator 308]

On 2018-01-19 at 8:54 PM, Guest Singh said:

When Jagmeet was running for party leader, the first thought that came to my mind was that it’s going to be our own people that try to bring him down.  That’s exactly what happened.  First the moderate sikhs went to the media and tried to paint him as a terrorist as he was trying to get the 1984 massacre recognised as genocide.      Then Indian politicians turned on him and basically said he should mind his own business and not be concerned with what goes on in Punjab. When people thought he was single, the goray thought it was normal but the apnay started spreading rumours that he was gay.  Now people are saying he needs to be brought down because he’s not marrying and amritdhari?  

It’s easy to be critical, but I’m just happy he found someone to marry because at 38 it’s not an easy thing to do.  

👌

I 100% agree with you, and couldn’t  have said it better myself. It’s truly sad then Sikhs fight other Sikhs for petty reasons, and can’t even put aside their differences.

It is well documented that when Sikhs run out of enemies to fight, they fight each other, but today we have clear enemies and can’t even put aside our differences for them. This kind of infighting is exactly what lost us the Sikh Kingdom. When will we learn? 

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Can you please clarify what the akal takht maryada you accept is.. This is a leading question so please let's do this 

http://old.sgpc.net/CDN/Sikh_Rehat_Maryada_English.pdf

[LightofNaam 45]

On 18/01/2018 at 5:50 PM, jkvlondon said:

somebody should explain to the two of them that amritdhari sikhs should also have likewise spouses irregardless of gender of amritdhari person . As far as his cringeworthy proposal vid shows (released today ) she shaves her pits, does her eyebrows, trims her hair also and probably her legs as she is in the phashion trade.

Didn't u just post a video about Nindya? 

Is this post really sikh like? 

[GurjantGnostic 1,364]

It's not my place to speak on this.

We all have little foibles or slips. 

I feel that sister jkvndon got off that horse a few days ago. 

I think it is a sensitive issue for her, because she, possibly like many amritdhari women, felt under valued by mainstream sikh beauty ideals contemporarily.  

Here they are being amritdhari, but it doesn't appeal to male lust in the modern age. 

Without pointing fingers at anyone else, maybe a better way to focus the issue would be a topic worded "honoring the beauty and value of our amritdhari women"

If all the women only seemed attracted to shaved men, we would see a decrease in amritdhari men and the men who still chose to be amritdhari might have hurt feelings and feel passed over. 

I agree with you LightofNaam, I said something very similar. Afterwards however I found out she's been heavily trolled on this site, and tried to look at it from her point of view and I felt a little guilty. The hurt she is speaking from is probably shared by many others, but as you pointed out when we speak out of hurt against another its not our best moment. 

[Akalifauj 900]

2 hours ago, LightofNaam said:

Didn't u just post a video about Nindya? 

Is this post really sikh like? 

Her post is according to Sikhi.  However your post in the other thread on what is nindiya is not Sikh like.  

Judgements etc are false.

Such blanketed statements are false.  

Gurus taught us to live n let live.

Why did Sri Guru Nanak dev ji go to mecca and point his feet at the kaaba.  Live and let live Sri Guru Nanak dev ji.  They want to bow to a stone, let them live Sri Guru Nanak dev ji.  There is more examples but I only need one to show the fallacy in your belief.  

We don't force our views on others, we simply teach.

And she is teaching the young gullible people what jagmeet Singh fiance mistakes are and jagmeet's. You want to preach but you can't even teach.  

Always look at and better yourself before judging others.

There was no judging.

Make sure you take the advice in the video before u tell anyone else to, that's important. Gurbani says that hypocrisy isnt compliant with Sikhi.

Guru sahib says to be a man and address the person directly instead running around doing  nindiya.

Start off by not slandering people on this forum and by not judging others.

So you need to stop being a hypocrite.

[Akalifauj 900]

35 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Here they are being amritdhari, but it doesn't appeal to male lust in the modern age.  

So you are saying amritdhari women are upset because they don't appeal to male lust in the modern age?

I know couple of women who would let you know very quickly if you ever spoke to them in this manner.  This is the problem here.  Any person off the internet can vomit up their puke and then you have like minded people cheering them on. There is no Guru based knowledge in their post.  They pretend on how they want to learn, but only vomit on this forum.  

[GurjantGnostic 1,364]

19 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

So you are saying amritdhari women are upset because they don't appeal to male lust in the modern age?

I know couple of women who would let you know very quickly if you ever spoke to them in this manner.  This is the problem here.  Any person off the internet can vomit up their puke and then you have like minded people cheering them on. There is no Guru based knowledge in their post.  They pretend on how they want to learn, but only vomit on this forum.  

Kind of lost me ji. What I was trying to say is it seems to me, from what little I have read here, that amritdhari women may feel underappreciated and passed over for western looking cut females. 

Is the vomit talk necessary?

[Akalifauj 900]

1 minute ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Kind of lost me ji. What I was trying to say is it seems to me, from what little I have read here, that amritdhari women may feel underappreciated and passed over for western looking cut females. 

Now go back and delete the slander you directed at jkvlondon by saying she feels a certain way.  Its blatantly obviously you are making fun of her.  

[GurjantGnostic 1,364]

2 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Now go back and delete the slander you directed at jkvlondon by saying she feels a certain way.  Its blatantly obviously you are making fun of her.  

I'll delete anything jkvlondon asks me to, or at least apologize for. 

Naam

Water

Bhang

Repeat until symptoms subside. 

I'm in no way making fun of anyone ji. 

What's next? You going to tell me to go back to my own country?

[N30S1NGH 3,147]

As a  politician he doesn't owe  to any particular group of people, he owes to his constituents and his constituents are vary diverse group of people. Just because many sikhs may have voted for him or may be part of his party donor list does not mean they will now dictate his personal life. With that being said, he did made his engagement as photo up by inviting media so i guess its fair game if people don't like what they are seeing. They are entitled to voice their opinions. I've seen reactions from wider Canadian audience too both positive and being thrown off comments who invites media in personal family event -very tacky at the very least.

As a amritdhari singh if he falls in love with non amritdhari and marries non amritdhari, thats between her, Guru and sikh gyani who administer their anand karaj where she be encouraged to adapt Gursikhi life style and thats up to them since it be done in front of hazoori of Guru maharaj its between him/her and Guru, so again its none of our business as him being regular baptised sikh* (he is not a jathedar of misal, sikh leader) he is not really answerable to fellow sikhs but rather panj pyare and or sikh gyani who administers their anand karaj. So if you have sikhi related issue with him, take it up to panj pyares.

He has done tremendous work for wider Canadian community including sikh community, none can take that away from him.

*Wonders* if he was a regular baptised sikh not famous canadian politican would he be subjected to this type of scrutiny ? I didn't think so.

Now as far being him being gursikh role model goes, is he claiming to be role model. If people wrap their head around personality worship and bunch of human pointers and consider him to be role model thats their prerogative not his. Heck, its not like its emanating from him that he is role model, its not like he is declaring every where he goes that he is role model.

I've find people to have unrealistic expectations from others and put them on pedestal and get all disappointed if they don't meet our standards.

Would you be guys be satisfied if her fiance waters down amrit like many akaalis and sgpc leaders have done- them and their spouses taking amrit just for sake of getting seat and position in sikh panth.

I wish them best of luck.