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He was gonna get beat regardless, so in my opinion he should have tried defending himself with his kirpan instead. Would have hurt the mob as well then.

PS:Probably the kirpan he was wearing was probably a blunt novelty

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I can't believe he gave up his only means of defence so easily what did he think , that he could turn his back on a baying crowd and no one would hurt him ? It really beggars belief , even if the kirpan was blunt it was sufficient cause for pause for them .

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On 5/28/2018 at 7:12 PM, Singh123456777 said:

He was gonna get beat regardless, so in my opinion he should have tried defending himself with his kirpan instead. Would have hurt the mob as well then.

PS:Probably the kirpan he was wearing was probably a blunt novelty

do you carry a 5ft sharp kirpan? have u ever used it? if no then why dont you? easy to cuss others.

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2 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

do you carry a 5ft sharp kirpan? have u ever used it? if no then why dont you? easy to cuss others.

Did i say he needed a 5 foot sharp kirpan? I said that his kirpan was probably blunt novelty. Khalsa fauj should carey a shastar that is actually sharp and usable, such. As pech kabaz etc

if he carried a 5 foot sharp kirpan, he wouldnt be in this predicament. Unless he wanted to hand that to the mob as well

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2 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

do you carry a 5ft sharp kirpan? have u ever used it? if no then why dont you? easy to cuss others.

Come on, man, you must surely know that a full size kirpan is 3ft, not 5ft!

It doesn't matter if he's ever "used it". If you are walking around with a 3ft kirpan, you in all likelihood will never need to use it because nobody will bother you.

Finally, even a small kirpan has a huge deterrent effect, if actually used.

As the other posters have highlighted, he might as well have put up a fight when he had a weapon. It's kind of like what they say about kidnappings: you are advised to put up a fight right at the point where you're being kidnapped. If you are moved to another location, your chances of surviving go way down.

Similarly, while there's no guarantee, it should be quite obvious that the guy's chances of prevailing would be higher with a weapon.

Are you seriously going to argue that his chances of prevailing would have been higher without a weapon?

A guy with a sharp knife waving it around is not someone who will easily be approached by the average person. Nobody wants to be the "first guy" to receive knife wounds. You can quite easily wound, and even kill, with a knife.

I applaud the posters in this thread because they are encouraging Sikhs to man up.

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20 hours ago, Singh123456777 said:

Did i say he needed a 5 foot sharp kirpan? I said that his kirpan was probably blunt novelty. Khalsa fauj should carey a shastar that is actually sharp and usable, such. As pech kabaz etc

if he carried a 5 foot sharp kirpan, he wouldnt be in this predicament. Unless he wanted to hand that to the mob as well

in that case is yours sharp? what faujiyah wala kaam have you done? my point being is brother we all quick to diss people like this, but we aint all exactly warriors ourselves lol. yeah i agree Singhs should be ready to fight whoever no matter the numbers, but sadly that isnt the case

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19 hours ago, BhForce said:

Come on, man, you must surely know that a full size kirpan is 3ft, not 5ft!

It doesn't matter if he's ever "used it". If you are walking around with a 3ft kirpan, you in all likelihood will never need to use it because nobody will bother you.

Finally, even a small kirpan has a huge deterrent effect, if actually used.

As the other posters have highlighted, he might as well have put up a fight when he had a weapon. It's kind of like what they say about kidnappings: you are advised to put up a fight right at the point where you're being kidnapped. If you are moved to another location, your chances of surviving go way down.

Similarly, while there's no guarantee, it should be quite obvious that the guy's chances of prevailing would be higher with a weapon.

Are you seriously going to argue that his chances of prevailing would have been higher without a weapon?

A guy with a sharp knife waving it around is not someone who will easily be approached by the average person. Nobody wants to be the "first guy" to receive knife wounds. You can quite easily wound, and even kill, with a knife.

I applaud the posters in this thread because they are encouraging Sikhs to man up.

and have you manned up now? do you now carry a 3ft, 5 ft or 7 ft siri sahib now? 

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4 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

in that case is yours sharp? what faujiyah wala kaam have you done? my point being is brother we all quick to diss people like this, but we aint all exactly warriors ourselves lol. yeah i agree Singhs should be ready to fight whoever no matter the numbers, but sadly that isnt the case

Yes i keep a sharp shastar on me at all times, and i train in yudh vidya such as boxing just in case i cannot use my shastar. I train in shastar vidya as wel but yudh vidya such as boxing is much more easier to utilize especially in the western world.

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3 hours ago, monatosingh said:
5 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

and have you manned up now? do you now carry a 3ft, 5 ft or 7 ft siri sahib now? 

There are 7ft Sri Sahibs?

No, bro, of course there aren't! He's just being hyperbolic.

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5 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:
On 5/30/2018 at 4:41 PM, BhForce said:

Come on, man, you must surely know that a full size kirpan is 3ft, not 5ft!

It doesn't matter if he's ever "used it". If you are walking around with a 3ft kirpan, you in all likelihood will never need to use it because nobody will bother you.

Finally, even a small kirpan has a huge deterrent effect, if actually used.

As the other posters have highlighted, he might as well have put up a fight when he had a weapon. It's kind of like what they say about kidnappings: you are advised to put up a fight right at the point where you're being kidnapped. If you are moved to another location, your chances of surviving go way down.

Similarly, while there's no guarantee, it should be quite obvious that the guy's chances of prevailing would be higher with a weapon.

Are you seriously going to argue that his chances of prevailing would have been higher without a weapon?

A guy with a sharp knife waving it around is not someone who will easily be approached by the average person. Nobody wants to be the "first guy" to receive knife wounds. You can quite easily wound, and even kill, with a knife.

I applaud the posters in this thread because they are encouraging Sikhs to man up.

and have you manned up now? do you now carry a 3ft, 5 ft or 7 ft siri sahib now? 

And thereby having refuted exactly zero of the arguments presented by me or the other posters.

In regards to encouraging Sikhs to "man up", that was used in the sentence "I applaud the posters in this thread because they are encouraging Sikhs to man up." And what they encouraged the guy to do was to not relinquish the kirpan on him (which was a small kirpan). 

All that the poster @Singh123456777 said is the guy should have used his kirpan (small). You're the one who if a Sikh dares to encourage a Sikh to use his kirpan, that you're going to demand of him whether he carries a 5ft kirpan.

Arguments you have not even bothered to refute:

-That most of the time, you'll never have to use a 3ft kirpan.

-You should not relinquish your weapon voluntarily.

-You have a better chance of prevailing with a weapon than without.

-Even small knives have a deterrent effect.

-No one wants to get a knife wound.

-You can kill with a knife.

 

I would really like to see your answers to these. Would they be like the following?

-If you carry a 3ft kirpan, Hindus/Muslims are more likely to accost you.

-If a thug demands you remove your kirpan, you should just hand it over.

-You have a better chance of prevailing without a weapon.

-Small knives have no deterrent effect.

-People actually want to get knife wounds.

-You can't kill with a knife. (That's why Sadiq Khan wants to ban knives, right? Because knives are harmless.)

 

I don't even know what or who you're angry with. Angry with Guru Gobind Singh ji? It's Guru Sahib's command not to be without a weapon, not a bunch of posters on sikhsangat.com

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in Meghalaya sikhs are being targeted by mobs

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/army-put-on-standby-in-violence-hit-shillong/599094.html

in UP, Gurdwara Sahib and sikh homes attacked

we need to wake up as a kaum and send help to these isolated sikhs  , interesting how social media and internet was shut down in areas of attack 'to prevent false news'

 

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