The Sikhs of Shanghai

[Amit12]

7 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

 Proud??

Fighting for the racist British government? Its these same people that carried out the jalan wala bagh and other countless atrocities 

The only time Sikhs should be proud is when we though as the khalsa against the mughals

But they also fought for some innocent british People ( Women and children included ) who were getting Bombed by zeppelins, isn't it ?

[dallysingh101]

3 hours ago, Amit12 said:

But they also fought for some innocent british People ( Women and children included ) who were getting Bombed by zeppelins, isn't it ?

Yeah, and the brits really fought alongside us when our women and children were getting raped and killed during partition.....

So you think zeppelins were used to bomb england?!?!? lol!! 

[Amit12]

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yeah, and the brits really fought alongside us when our women and children were getting raped and killed during partition.....

So you think zeppelins were used to bomb england?!?!? lol!! 

So you must not be proud of the current sikhs who are serving in U.K army, right ?

[JSinghnz]

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yeah, and the brits really fought alongside us when our women and children were getting raped and killed during partition.....

So you think zeppelins were used to bomb england?!?!? lol!! 

And to make matters worse the pommies who were ruling Pre partion India still had the army which could have stopped the massacre of millions of Sikhs but they chose not to. Till date there has been no apology from the pommies for this inaction which resulted in indescribable suffering of our people. 

[JSinghnz]

29 minutes ago, Amit12 said:

So you must not be proud of the current sikhs who are serving in U.K army, right ?

The Sikhs serving UK army today  are UK citizens.Tbey are not serving as slaves. 

[Amit12]

Okay. 

[Torontobboi]

They didn't pave the way for the Diaspora for crap. The Diaspora communiy especially in Canada came about in the 1980s that's when many Punjabis started immigrating to Canada . It wasn't just Jatts either lots of Rajputs and sainis too . My parents didn't even know about the Sikh pioneers I learnt about them in school and they r pretty insignificant as the community really started to develop in the 90s not 100 years ago as some like to belive. Also in Canada lots of Punjabis came from Hoshiarpur and Moga aswell not just Jalandhar 

[Guest jigsaw_puzzled_singh]

1 hour ago, Torontobboi said:

They didn't pave the way for the Diaspora for crap. The Diaspora communiy especially in Canada came about in the 1980s that's when many Punjabis started immigrating to Canada . It wasn't just Jatts either lots of Rajputs and sainis too . My parents didn't even know about the Sikh pioneers I learnt about them in school and they r pretty insignificant as the community really started to develop in the 90s not 100 years ago as some like to belive. Also in Canada lots of Punjabis came from Hoshiarpur and Moga aswell not just Jalandhar 

Torontobboi. You live in Toronto. That should explain it all but let me elaborate. As an overwhelmingly Doaba Sikh community the UK Sikhs have blood, kith and kin with the west coast BC Sikh community....with one brother here and another there etc. Not with the Toronto Sikhs as they (you) are virtual fresh off the boats and predominately Malwais anyway. As mostly now 3rd and 4th generation western born the UK Sikhs share blood with the 3rd and 4th generation west coast Canadian Sikhs. Not you Toronto Sikhs. When it comes to talking about diaspora histories then.....the subject of Toronto Sikhs should only really be discussed when talking about other fairly new diasporas, such as the Italian Sikhs. It's irrelevant in this discussion. This discussion is about the Sikh pioneers in the west coast of Canada and America circa late 1890s to early 1900s.  The malwais of Toronto, arriving from the late 1980s onwards,  have no involvement in any of this. It will take a 100 years of catching up to do before the subject of Toronto will be of even the slightest of interest to anyone outside of the Toronto area. 

You see, the subject of history aside, the trouble with Toronto is that it is a city that is so desperate to see itself as a great world class city that it has convinced itself that it is, not realising that the rest of the western world sees it as a city on par with cities such as Geneva, Dallas and Stokholm, only a lot more boring. When Europeans, including UK Sikhs, talk about how beautiful Canada is they are talking about BC. The mountains, the scenery, the landscape. Not Toronto. When it comes to historical discussion of diasporas then, the 3rd and 4th generation UK Sikhs are talking about the 3rd and 4th generation BC and California Sikhs. Not the 1st generation Toronto Sikhs. Toronto is of very little interest to anybody anywhere generally...but especially when it comes to discussing history.

[dallysingh101]

9 hours ago, Amit12 said:

So you must not be proud of the current sikhs who are serving in U.K army, right ?

I'd be more proud of a Sikh 'gang member' in the UK whose actually made effort to protect vulnerable members of the community against grooming or race attacks than any soldier poster boy. 

At least the former has done something to help his community. 

[dallysingh101]

10 hours ago, Torontobboi said:

They didn't pave the way for the Diaspora for crap. The Diaspora communiy especially in Canada came about in the 1980s that's when many Punjabis started immigrating to Canada . It wasn't just Jatts either lots of Rajputs and sainis too . My parents didn't even know about the Sikh pioneers I learnt about them in school and they r pretty insignificant as the community really started to develop in the 90s not 100 years ago as some like to belive. Also in Canada lots of Punjabis came from Hoshiarpur and Moga aswell not just Jalandhar 

Jigsaw comes from a long line of unskilled workers. It hurts him to realise that some of us have skilled forefathers whose skills and hard work opened up doors for them all over the world. With Jigsaw's grandfather, he had to be content with some proper duffus unskilled factory work (like a sullah) as a thank you for risking his ar5e for spreading colonialism. We've spoken about this before yet he still persists in his fallacy.