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This seems to be a common motif in puratan Sikh art. I'm pretty sure iv read a translation of gurbani about the Deer fleeing away from the Tiger.  Think the Deer represent ego/pride while the tiger represents the destroyer of ego/pride.  interesting 

 

At Hazur Sahib

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Hazur Sahib

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Bottom right corner, at Hazur Sahib

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very old photo of Harmandir Sahib taken by the British. you can see the same image at the bottom right corner. A lot of the old marble has been removed at Harmandir Sahib  so i i dont know if its still there.

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Maharaja Ranjit Singhs sword

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Shield from Sikh empire

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21 hours ago, puzzled said:

This seems to be a common motif in puratan Sikh art. I'm pretty sure iv read a translation of gurbani about the Deer fleeing away from the Tiger.  Think the Deer represent ego/pride while the tiger represents the destroyer of ego/pride.  interesting 

 

At Hazur Sahib

W1YfMdKAPh0F_468_738.jpg.0a46cb1d71d6bc4ae90793f1ccc998ad.jpg

Hazur Sahib

687931296_hazursahib.jpg.97f36baa6480fe22d9d43a62cf0bf69f.jpg

 

Bottom right corner, at Hazur Sahib

hazur.jpg.4ff1be7afb99a620b09b80a57732a605.jpg

 

very old photo of Harmandir Sahib taken by the British. you can see the same image at the bottom right corner. A lot of the old marble has been removed at Harmandir Sahib  so i i dont know if its still there.

6abbb550675222a2ff82d965f0a4722b.jpg.c5e3d86211bcdedb28c4fec47511a4bc.jpg

 

Maharaja Ranjit Singhs sword

44491995_358183924923572_2248659556936712192_n.jpg.5580feed9aa1914f268fd6e2e06a157b.jpg

 

41039906_183254432492485_1964709977382097819_n.jpg.066733d54ff6f93a0c2713a6dbd9a534.jpg

 

Shield from Sikh empire

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Interesting there is sun emblem on the shield 

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47 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Interesting there is sun emblem on the shield 

This was a common motif/symbol in Sikhi and is still utilised by the Dal Panth. The Surya or Suraj is a reference to the dynasty (Suryavanshi) which Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji and therefore the Khalsa Panth belongs to as mentioned in Bachittar Natak and other texts.

ਜਾਂ ਦਿਨ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਛਕਤ ਯਹਿ, ਰਹਤ ਨ ਪਿਛਲੀ ਜਾਤਿ ।

On that day when you take Amrit [Khandey Di Pahul], the commandment is that you do not have a previous Caste.

ਜ੍ਯੋਂ ਭ੍ਰਿੰਗੀ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਕੀਟ ਤੈ, ਤ੍ਯੋਂ ਸਿਖ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਗੁਰੁ ਜਾਤਿ ॥੨੪॥

In the same way a Bhringi, which transforms a [low] insect into a beautiful butterfly, a Sikh turns [beautiful] and adopts the Gurus Caste.

ਸੂਰਜ ਬੰਸੀ ਦਸਮ ਗੁਰੁ, ਛੱਤ੍ਰੀ ਭਏ ਪ੍ਰਸਿੱਧ ।

The Tenth Guru is from the Suraj Bans (Surya Vansh Lineage), the famous Kshatriya caste.

ਯਾਹੀਂ ਤੇ ਸਭਿ ਖਾਲਸਾ, ਛੱਤ੍ਰੀ ਬਰਣ ਅਬਿੱਧ ॥੨੫॥

In this way all the Khalsa turn into one of Kshastriya.

[Naveen Panth Prakash, pg. 1581, Vol. 3]

 

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^ a Surajmukhi emblem being carried with Guru Sahibs entourage.

 

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^ The same emblem being used by the Nihangs today

 

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^ On the hilt of a Sikh Shastar

 

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^ A battle standard from the Sikh Empire with a Surya

 

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^ Surya logo

 

Gurbar Akaal!

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16 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

This was a common motif/symbol in Sikhi and is still utilised by the Dal Panth. The Surya or Suraj is a reference to the dynasty (Suryavanshi) which Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji and therefore the Khalsa Panth belongs to as mentioned in Bachittar Natak and other texts.

ਜਾਂ ਦਿਨ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਛਕਤ ਯਹਿ, ਰਹਤ ਨ ਪਿਛਲੀ ਜਾਤਿ ।

On that day when you take Amrit [Khandey Di Pahul], the commandment is that you do not have a previous Caste.

ਜ੍ਯੋਂ ਭ੍ਰਿੰਗੀ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਕੀਟ ਤੈ, ਤ੍ਯੋਂ ਸਿਖ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਗੁਰੁ ਜਾਤਿ ॥੨੪॥

In the same way a Bhringi, which transforms a [low] insect into a beautiful butterfly, a Sikh turns [beautiful] and adopts the Gurus Caste.

ਸੂਰਜ ਬੰਸੀ ਦਸਮ ਗੁਰੁ, ਛੱਤ੍ਰੀ ਭਏ ਪ੍ਰਸਿੱਧ ।

The Tenth Guru is from the Suraj Bans (Surya Vansh Lineage), the famous Kshatriya caste.

ਯਾਹੀਂ ਤੇ ਸਭਿ ਖਾਲਸਾ, ਛੱਤ੍ਰੀ ਬਰਣ ਅਬਿੱਧ ॥੨੫॥

In this way all the Khalsa turn into one of Kshastriya.

[Naveen Panth Prakash, pg. 1581, Vol. 3]

 

516072801_ShamsherPitaSuryavanshi.jpeg.6183cff346006bf29c52f7e6c60b540c.jpeg

 

^ a Surajmukhi emblem being carried with Guru Sahibs entourage.

 

801841945_SuryavanshiDalPanth.jpeg.e820e3628ba011e49e3f502970963f43.jpeg

 

^ The same emblem being used by the Nihangs today

 

508311583_SuryavanshiKirpanGoldDetail.jpeg.47b0a2f5a87d65ffb2c3821f80eebdfa.jpeg

 

^ On the hilt of a Sikh Shastar

 

21980255_SuryavanshiKhalsaNishan.jpg.acbed5a68ad27c90f35abf233408e8c8.jpg

 

^ A battle standard from the Sikh Empire with a Surya

 

surya.jpg

^ Surya logo

 

Gurbar Akaal!

Very interesting it's just used a lot by others like the sun disk of Egypt etc. Have not seen it myself used in Sikhi before today.

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Tiger chasing Deer on marble on the floor at harmandir sahib

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sun on the ceiling of Harmandir Sahib

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Samadhi of Maharaja Ranjit Singh with sun/surya on the ceiling 

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ceiling of gurdwara tarn taran sahib,  flower or sun?

Ceiling detail of Gurudwara Shri Tarn Taran Sahib - captured this April with my phone . . . . . . #artandculture #artphotography #mural #goldentemple #sikhheritage #sikhi #gurudwara #gurugranthsahib #beautiful #mobilephotography #travelphotography #travelindia #backpacker #solotravel @natgeo #amritsar #realgold #design #delhibloggers @oneplus_india #travelgram #indiagram #punjab #punjabi

tarn taran

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surya on hazur sahib ceiling 

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sun at baba khem singh bedi haveli in pakistan

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11 hours ago, puzzled said:

Tiger chasing Deer on marble on the floor at harmandir sahib

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sun on the ceiling of Harmandir Sahib

Image result for golden temple art and architecture

 

Samadhi of Maharaja Ranjit Singh with sun/surya on the ceiling 

Image result for sikh samadhi art

Image result for sikh samadhi art

ceiling of gurdwara tarn taran sahib,  flower or sun?

Ceiling detail of Gurudwara Shri Tarn Taran Sahib - captured this April with my phone . . . . . . #artandculture #artphotography #mural #goldentemple #sikhheritage #sikhi #gurudwara #gurugranthsahib #beautiful #mobilephotography #travelphotography #travelindia #backpacker #solotravel @natgeo #amritsar #realgold #design #delhibloggers @oneplus_india #travelgram #indiagram #punjab #punjabi

tarn taran

Image result for sikh frescoes sun

 

surya on hazur sahib ceiling 

Image result for hazur sahib flickr surya

 

sun at baba khem singh bedi haveli in pakistan

Image result for sikh frescoes murals

 

Nice brov, never seen sun emblem with a moustache though lol

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3 hours ago, Redoptics said:

Nice brov, never seen sun emblem with a moustache though lol

lol  he looks funny init 

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Just now, puzzled said:

lol  he looks funny init 

Like I said interesting didn't think we held on this type of stuff, I have done a lot research in regards to motifs that re occur , always thought we were unique 

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2 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Like I said interesting didn't think we held on this type of stuff, I have done a lot research in regards to motifs that re occur , always thought we were unique 

a lot of old gurdware and old sikh havelis have motifs and symbols which will look odd in a sikh building in todays time. 

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5 minutes ago, puzzled said:

a lot of old gurdware and old sikh havelis have motifs and symbols which will look odd in a sikh building in todays time. 

Thanks for pointing it out, will research as if you type tiger hunting deer into google brings up Muslim dreams 

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YOU ALL are being duped by this MrDoaba guy. These ppl see patterns in everything, even where there is not. A circle with lines radiating outwards is a common design pattern found in roof of many historical buildings, including churches and mosques.

It has nothing to do with surya devta . These people do the same with Taj Mahal 

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1 hour ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

YOU ALL are being duped by this MrDoaba guy. These ppl see patterns in everything, even where there is not. A circle with lines radiating outwards is a common design pattern found in roof of many historical buildings, including churches and mosques.

It has nothing to do with surya devta . These people do the same with Taj Mahal 

It's just art  

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1 minute ago, puzzled said:

It's just art  

This is how you destroy monuments, by first claiming your art work is present on walls and ceilings and then slowly insidiously claim the building and say "you took it from us" 

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3 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

This is how you destroy monuments, by first claiming your art work is present on walls and ceilings and then slowly insidiously claim the building and say "you took it from us" 

You're being a drama queen dude. 

It's art. Appreciate it for what it is, and explore any potential symbology.  And if any symbology crosses over different cultures - it's not anything to get your kashera in a twist about. 

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2 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

You're being a drama queen dude. 

It's art. Appreciate it for what it is, and explore any potential symbology.  And if any symbology crosses over different cultures - it's not anything to get your kashera in a twist about. 

I used to call people 'drama queens' and 'paranoid crazy people' before who might bring such things in front of me earlier, 

but you have to understand the level on which our enemies operate. I don't have anything against the average hindu. What I am against is the kind of hindu zionism that is spreading lately and how facts are being twisted to further their assimilation objective.

Are you aware they even lay similar claims to the Taj Mahal ? that it was a shiva temple before by exploiting its art features and vaguely trying to connect it to hindu symbols , and now they're doing same with Harmandar sahib by showing us  puratan paintings and twisting the stories 

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