Patiala "royal" family

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1 hour ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Kartarpur sahib was built by patiala family . And I am sure they've done other such historical gurdwaras in past. which unfortunately makes them the grey area. The black area would be someone who never did any good at all for sikh qaum ,maybe someone like meer maanu, lakhpat rai, etc 

I think you'll find they only reformed the site , as there has been a gurdwara there for centuries prior, it's like saying Ranjit Singh made Harmandir Sahib

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2 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Kartarpur sahib was built by patiala family . And I am sure they've done other such historical gurdwaras in past. which unfortunately makes them the grey area. The black area would be someone who never did any good at all for sikh qaum ,maybe someone like meer maanu, lakhpat rai, etc 

Doesnt change the fact that they've been traitors and supported genocide of punjabis by abdali and supported the invasion of sikh homeland by the british.  That's no grey's area that's black as it gets 

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21 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

Simranjit Singh Maan also has the same family background.  His maternal grandfather (Naana) presented the keys of Harmandir Sahib to the British.  Simranjit Singh Maan also shares the same in-laws as Captain Arminder, they are Saandus.

To understands how this game has played out in the hands of these families, you need to look back at the creation of India and Pakistan.  Freedom was not won through a war with the British Empire, the British Empire decided to abandon their campaign in India/Pak and handed over the administration to the families which were most loyal to the crown (sellouts/traitors).  This system started with the handout of Jagirs to touts and traitors who provided valuable information to British. These sellouts had the titles of Jagirdaars and Jaildaars.  They rewarded them handsomely with land and status.  The odd thing is that the descendants of these sellouts view themselves as people of high status because of their wealth.  The same families, still to this day are controlling the Political scene in Punjab, whether that be Congress, Akali Dal or Maan Akali Dal.  The situation is the same in Pakistan.  We can thank the British for the problems in Punjab but the masses of ordinary people need to take responsibility for electing these sellouts and not questioning their source of wealth.  I know many Jaildaar families who have zero complex about their family history and shamefully boast about their wealth and status.  

The whole script needs to be re-written and the shameful leaders of these sellout families need to uprooted, never to be allowed to participate in any role in the Politics of Punjab. 

I remember a few years back when Jagmeet Singh (NDP Canada) was invited to accept World Sikh Award in Amritsar.  Captain Arminder spoke out to block his Visa for being anti-India and a Khalistan sympathiser .  On one hand you have Captain Arminder who’s family worked with the British to destroy Ranjit Singhs Sarkaar-e-Khalsa.  On the other hand you have Jagmeet Singh who’s great grandfather is Seva Singh Theekriwala who was a famous freedom fighter during the Independence Movement of India.  How can Captain Arminder be allowed to point fingers at any Sikh.  

People of Punjab need to wake up and educate themselves on the history of Punjab.  We need a complete awakening and need to really look at how we have ended up in such a mess.  More importantly who is responsible?

 

That's the thing  people are unaware of their history and unaware of the history of these so called punjabi elite families. These traitors have white washed their past.  Its important to dig deep into the past to see the real faces of these corrupt people. 

Pakistan was also created by elite muslims families from utter pradesh for their own financial benefit, punjabi pakis and sindhis didn't even create pakistan. And to this days it's those same elite muslims from UP that are ruling over pakistan today. No one else has actually benefited from the creation of pakistan. 

[Guest GuestSingh]

how long does 'treachery' need to go on for until it stops bein called 'treachery'?

in everyday life, we consider a traitor as someone whos cheated their 'own', their 'loved ones', their 'ppl' n abandoned em for an outsider/enemy etc. depending on personality/severity, it can only need to happen once for us to completely disassociate from tht person n c em in the same way as the outsider/enemy.

well badal, cm amarinder etc have been cheatin sikhs for several decades n abandoned the ppl of panjab for their enemies a long time ago. they attack sikhs thru malicious yet meticulously planned acts aganst sikhs. they r complicit in the rape, torture, murder n injustice against sikhs. they do nothin to serve or protect sikhs. so y do we still consider/regard/treat em as sikh? cuz they have a sikh name n sikh appearance? tht means nothin. these ppl foreit their proclaimed identity a long time ago.

a traitor doesnt keep bein a traitor. they become the enemy afta becomin a traitor.

they r panjabi hindus who like to serve their hindu masters in sikh disguise.

so lets call em tht instead.

[simba1]

the patiala raja and also rajas of jind and naba helped britain in the 1857 revolt .The revolt had important characters as jansi ki rani ,mangal panday.etc