Why are very unclothed girls running university sikh societies?

[Sat1]

On 8/18/2020 at 2:54 AM, Jonny101 said:

Sat1 ji, I don't see what kuldip ji said that you would consider sexist. A Gurdwara is not a place for inappropriate dressing sense. Bani has made it clear that a woman who is proud of her body and shows off her body by dressing inappropriately is a Gavaar since that body will one day be turned to ash. This is not sexist, it is the truth.  Does it make sense to wear skintight leggings in a Gurdwara and matha tek in front of the congregation? Your concept of equality between the sexes is that a woman should be able to do all the things (good or bad) that a man does and in this way you justify women dressing inappropriately. This is post modern nihilism of the west. We don't subscribe to this line of thinking. A Sikh lives according to Maryadha. The ideal dress for a Sikh is Bana, but if one wears something other than Bana it should not be inappropriate.

What a ridiculous post.
 

These women are not walking around naked. Humans have far too much time to try and find silly faults with others and judge them rather than focus on their own paths. This is the reason why hardly anyone is living in a state of Jivan mukht. Post Modern Nihlism of the west? What about the women wearing the tiniest saris in the east? You’re living in the past and you have a very Islamic mindset. A lot of people on here do. Materialistic and shallow, judging the external so harshly and unfairly.
 

You claim not to be part of the false and shallow Image Obsessed society, but you’re deep down stuck in it. 

[Sat1]

On 9/24/2019 at 11:41 PM, Ranjeet01 said:

I wonder what our women think about these hipster beards, now with all these western men growing long beards.

For years they have been.stating their preference for clean shaven.

Are beards suddenly attractive now that white guys are growing theirs?

Who cares what they think. Again, shallow. 

[Ranjeet01]

10 minutes ago, Sat1 said:

Who cares what they think. Again, shallow. 

No, it is important to see what the words are and what the actions are.

[Sat1]

On 8/20/2020 at 1:40 AM, Not2Cool2Argue said:You are right. This is internal rehit. Where one controls thoughts and vikaars. 

This is very important on the spiritual path. 

But there is also external rehit. And there is also the worldly path. As sikhs we are meant to be successful in both. 

You cant tell spiritual beginners, that nothing matters. Everything and Everyone is one. 

It will not enlighten them but leave them lost and defenseless against maya and the predatory ppl. 

This is what the west is doing, telling kids there is no gender, its all a man made construct. This leaves kids lost and confused. 

Money is also a man made concept. But very real and important. 

Once kids understand gender, money and how it works in the world. Only then can you explain its real value is nothing and how ephemeral it is. 

Similarily, external rehit is important. It helps with the internal rehit esp in the beginning when the internal rehit is weak. The states you are talking about are goal posts where we hope to be someday. Seeing everyone as brother, sisters, seeing the one in all. They are not the beginning. Of course we should strive for that, but we will fail many times. 

Many sakhis illustrate that the gurus encouraged external rehit even in spiritually advanced people.

1. Baba Budha ji had reached brahmgian and sikhs complained that baba budha ji no longer came to the river to do ishnaan. Guruji showed the sikhs that ganga itself came to bathe babaji. But still guruji told babaji  that he should still go to the river to fo ishnaan. even though he did not need it, rehit was important to keep up. So as to not discourage other sikhs on the paath and to follow the gurus hukum. 

2. The third guru had outlawed veils for woman. And stated all women must uncover their face when doing darshan. Some princess did not follow this rule and she faced dire consequences. (From what i remember she went crazy). So you see the Guru did care about personal appearances. And telling women not to wear a veil was huge as it was common in hindus and muslims.

Lest you think this supports your view:

3. When Mata Bhago reached brahm gian, she woukd wear a kasher and nothing else. Guru ji also commanded her to cover herself, even though she was beyond the body and had no care of it. Guruji said its important to cover up. 

Also, while we control our lust, evolve our psychology and move forward, its important to get young people to ask themselves why they are following harmful societal trends. Why they think dressing inappropriately is important to them, what motivated them?

Because we have a duty to not only our soul, but to the panth as well. To help it stay niara (unique) from society and in chardi kaka ( uplifted from the maladies that affect normal society)

For a spiritual beginner, the first law is speak the Truth, and Nirboah and Nirvair. Fear no one and Hate none, because Hes everyone everything everywhere, All Pervading. Fear and hatred will be replaced with an Unconditional Love. 
 

Without the application of these basic laws, we’re lost. Before you don clothing Claiming to be a Sikh, accept this gyan. Or there’s no point....You’re living in Ego from the get go. 

[OnieFaltoo]

Men in the west prefer to look like women, have soft hairless faces, whereas women are the opposite! They prefer to look like men with very short hairstyles and macho behaviour, also known as the ladettes of the west.  It’s a topsy-turvy world we live in!

[Akalifauj]

1 hour ago, Sat1 said:

For a spiritual beginner, the first law is speak the Truth, and Nirboah and Nirvair. Fear no one and Hate none, because Hes everyone everything everywhere, All Pervading. Fear and hatred will be replaced with an Unconditional Love. 
 

Without the application of these basic laws, we’re lost. Before you don clothing Claiming to be a Sikh, accept this gyan. Or there’s no point....You’re living in Ego from the get go. 

Can you answer the question, which was asked, couple of days ago.  Can you read and understand Gurbani in Gurmukhi?  This question is very important because English translations of Gurbani do not do justice to what Gurbani is saying.  Before running away out of frustration and anger you refused to answer this question.  Also in your rage you disrespected Gurbani by joining two separate panktis, which are on completely separate angs into one. Since you are back.  We would like you to answer this question.   

[Akalifauj]

The girls that choose to wear clothing that reveal the body also have to do another thing that is against gurmat.  They remove hair from the body.  All these girls wearing sleeveless tops are removing armpit hair.  They use various methods to remove body hair to fit into their new western society.   Yet they want to run Sikh societies in universities.  The most simplest requirement to be a Sikh is let the hair grow.  You don't have to do anything. However,  these girls go out of their way to make sure the most simplest requirement of being a Sikh is not followed.  They hate the very hair on their body.  How can such girls teach others to not be hateful.  They fear society response to keeping hair.  They fear wearing respectable clothing by Gurbani standards because that's dressing like a extremist muslim.  When did Gurbani standards become the Muslim way! The simplest truth is to accept that the body has hair.  

[GurjantGnostic]

On 8/17/2020 at 6:17 PM, Sat1 said:

I’m tired of trying to reason with insecure sexist men on here, it’s such a waste of time and energy.

See but it's all Oneness.  Those men are you.  Just be One and they won't bother you.