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I have no idea what is wrong with these people but something needs to be done about what they say and how they preach Sikhi. They've already been banned from Gurdware and use the excuse that we follow false Babe and that they are the enlighted rational thinkers who are here to save Sikhi from us. 

Here's them trying to be "rational" about the aftelife.

Here's them completely neglecting the whole Gurmat Karam philosophy and past lives using the caste system, destiny and oppression as a scapegoat to promote their thinking:

Now they put this title up of whisky baba so people think that they are right and that these Babe are the people perverting  95% of the panth

My question what should we do? they have 200k subs compared to Basics with 143k. How do we go about stopping their koor prachar? 

I'm not even sure if at this point they accept that Guru Nanak Dev ji is divine and sent from Vaheguru himself.

 

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😂😂😂 Is that now his new 9 to 5 job he was talking about? They are youtubers and  cannot survive a day out in real job market. Easy way milking money. 

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They're a virus that has been allowed to spread due to Sikh ignorance of their own religion and beliefs. If only people knew the contempt with which Dhadhri and his ancillaries are held by genuinely spiritual and decent Sikhs, those of the sangat who've been deceived but are ultimately decent people seeking spiritual guidance, would turn from these charlatans immediately. NKJ are digging themselves into a very deep hole from which they will not escape. 

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3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

They're a virus that has been allowed to spread due to Sikh ignorance of their own religion and beliefs. If only people knew the contempt with which Dhadhri and his ancillaries are held by genuinely spiritual and decent Sikhs, those of the sangat who've been deceived but are ultimately decent people seeking spiritual guidance, would turn from these charlatans immediately. NKJ are digging themselves into a very deep hole from which they will not escape. 

they have given the world proof positive that they do not believe in Guru Sahiban's bachan therefore they ARE NOT SIKH in word, thought or action.

As Bhai Raghbir Singh Bir explains this is the nishana of a sikh:

 

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

they have given the world proof positive that they do not believe in Guru Sahiban's bachan therefore they ARE NOT SIKH in word, thought or action.

As Bhai Raghbir Singh Bir explains this is the nishana of a sikh:

 

Is it just me or don't you find it a little insidious how they waited to establish a base of operations, by purchasing that building in Coventry, before they kicked into second gear and amped up the subversion to the next level? It's almost as if that was the plan all along. Gain a following by travelling up and down the country like modern day minstrels; ensnare clueless Sikhs with melodious tunes and surface appeal, then eventually the mask is allowed to slip - because they don't really care about keeping up the pretense - and they can now carry out what they always intended. There's a definite plan there if you stand back and break it down.

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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Is it just me or don't you find it a little insidious how they waited to establish a base of operations, by purchasing that building in Coventry, before they kicked into second gear and amped up the subversion to the next level? It's almost as if that was the plan all along. Gain a following by travelling up and down the country like modern day minstrels; ensnare clueless Sikhs with melodious tunes and surface appeal, then eventually the mask is allowed to slip - because they don't really care about keeping up the pretense - and they can now carry out what they always intended. There's a definite plan there if you stand back and break it down.

it is the model that worked for the Yogi bhajans and Bikrams of the past decades , start building a following under the radar, build own real estate base, mint it whilst ensnaring more on past fake 'humble' performances , then once secure start doing what you want to do , whether sexual abuse of groupies , fraud operations whilst pulling in daswand from local and foreign sangat .

These fake people are monetising on the pure sikhi of Sant Isher Singh ji and other mahapurakh  and I would hate to be in their boots when they have to answer for it in front of Dharamraj

p.s. isn't it what Ranjit did himself , building his own dera and sewadar band for langar , kirtan everything, so essntially a closed shop . Those who are above board gursikhs never meet with single folks especially bibian , only refer to Guru ji's mat for solutions and suggest doing your own ardas after doing sewa with own hands or simran of gurbani, rather than demanding paise/donation for ardas .

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2 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

These fake people are monetising on the pure sikhi of Sant Isher Singh ji and other mahapurakh  and I would hate to be in their boots when they have to answer for it in front of Dharamraj

That's an interesting observation and one that has merit. It does seem like a modern day progression from that earlier wholesome ethos of the likes of Sant Usher Singh, which has been cynically skewed to work in favour of these clowns. 

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On 2/16/2020 at 4:42 AM, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

 

 

This guy says, Gurbani says you will reap what you do.  Gurbani does say this but Gurbani also says on this topic, you will do as Vaheguru commands....nothing is in your hand, Vaheguru does all.  Gurbani also says on this topic, walk on the path of Gurmat.  To understand the concept, you will reap what you sow. The two connected topics also have to be explained without contradicting the first concept. The example he provides does not incorporate all three  concepts and provide a Gurmat answer.  This parrot is the blind man touching the trunk of an elephant and saying it's a tree trunk. The parrot is saying we write our destiny.   But this is not what Gurbani is saying.  Gurbani is saying you will follow the will of Vaheguru command.  How does he explain Sri Guru Arjun Dev ji being punished by the ruler at the time.  When Sri Guru Arjun Dev ji did nothing wrong? According to,  you will reap what you sow, the 40 mukta were punished on the battlefield because they went to do a good thing and fight evil, but they lost their lives.   Losing your life is a negative outcome and not a positive outcome. The 40 mukta studied for the test and they failed because they lost their lives. Also this parrot is changing the language around the 40 mukta by saying 40 singhs. He doesn't  want to say mukta because that would mean their is an after life and these clowns don't believe in an afterlife.  The chota sahibzaade also lost their lives for doing a good deed.  How come the good people doing good deeds are losing their lives (failing the test) and people doing bad things are not losing their lives?  Clearly the concept you will reap what you sow is not so simple in Gurbani.  Also before clown college says passing the test means the 40 mukta and chota sahibzaade stood up to tyrants.   This would be the wrong analogy because passing the test is the end result (living, but the 40 mukta and chota sahibzaade didn't live on) and answering the question right is to stand up to the tyrants.  

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On 2/16/2020 at 12:42 PM, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

I have no idea what is wrong with these people but something needs to be done about what they say and how they preach Sikhi. They've already been banned from Gurdware and use the excuse that we follow false Babe and that they are the enlighted rational thinkers who are here to save Sikhi from us. 

Here's them trying to be "rational" about the aftelife.

Here's them completely neglecting the whole Gurmat Karam philosophy and past lives using the caste system, destiny and oppression as a scapegoat to promote their thinking:

Now they put this title up of whisky baba so people think that they are right and that these Babe are the people perverting  95% of the panth

My question what should we do? they have 200k subs compared to Basics with 143k. How do we go about stopping their koor prachar? 

I'm not even sure if at this point they accept that Guru Nanak Dev ji is divine and sent from Vaheguru himself.

 

I have never watched any of their videos. Apart from a short clip. In that clip was the leader of this group. 

He only said a few words and I did not really know much about them. But the guy sounded like a dodgy fella just from watching him for a couple of minutes. 

 

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