successful strategies of bringing non-sikhs in to Sikhi

[Sat1]

On 5/27/2020 at 3:33 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

If you love Truth, why have you gone quiet, and ignored the multitude of Gurbani quoted in other threads?

You don't agree with the Guru's Sikhi?

When did I go quiet. Why so hostile?

[Sat1]

On 5/27/2020 at 3:34 PM, kuldipk123 said:

I totally agree with you. I think this is only happening because they don't really understand what the Gurus taught in the first instance. Every single sikh I have spoken to or speak to, has a different interpretation of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib, according to personal agenda behind it. I once met a sikh who told me there is no such thing as fixed time for  amritwela mentioned anywhere in the Granth. I mean, how weird is that? His argument, not all sikhs live in India therefore there can't be fixed period for amritwela everywhere to match with India. The other weird thing I heard was to do with consuming alcohol and meat. I might be wrong but my excuse is not knowing enough about  teachings of sikh Gurus.

People tend to twist gurbani to suit their own agendas at times. Sad but it’s the reality 

[Sat1]

On 5/27/2020 at 3:32 PM, genie said:

All religion's are spiritual paths to the creator but are not equal. Every religion teaches humans to praise the creator however in Sikhi we do not view they are equal in value and equal in teachings because every religion contradicts each other in their scriptures. What is good for muslims is bad for hindus what is good for hindus is bad for muslims and so on and so forth. Sikhi speaks a common denominator truth to all people of faiths this is what drew many converts in.

Sikhi is a common sense religion its a way of life it is a truth. It is an organized religion so its not just a philosophy. A philosphy can be followed without having loyalty towards the founder or creator of it. And if Sikhi wasn't a religion then it would be vanished into the books of history like most ancient faiths have been because they couldnt organise themselves in defence of more aggressive opportunist conquesting faiths like the abrahamics.

Read Dasam Granth. Each major faith had messengers to teach Truth to the masses. Many became corrupt, scholars corrupted the messages with their worldly logic or humans twisted it to serve their agendas. Truth is eternal, we would be foolish to think we were the first to be taught it. 

[GurjantGnostic]

5 hours ago, Sat1 said:

People tend to twist gurbani to suit their own agendas at times. Sad but it’s the reality 

You

 

5 hours ago, Sat1 said:

When did I go quiet. Why so hostile?

Threads are easy to follow. Go back and handle your business. 

[GurjantGnostic]

On 5/27/2020 at 7:16 AM, Sat1 said:

It’s not a religion, there are no barriers so that helps when speaking about Truth and resonates with humans who recognize this Truth

Go back to your wasp cult and worship your own ego. Nobody here is interested or asking for your academic white washed sikhism. You're not a teacher here, you should have respect for the actual Sikhs here and the Guru's Sikhi. 

You're a liar and a fake and it's ever more obvious. 

[kuldipk123]

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[genie]

4 hours ago, kuldipk123 said:

@Sat1 Throughout my life as a Guru ka Khalsa, I have been arguing and fighting off so many characters that have a proclivity to misrepresent or misinterpret Sikhism! Even though, I am not that old yet!! It all started at school at first.  It’s just so outrageous if not scandalous to see how they have the courage to override everything in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to suit their personal leanings or agendas! Nowadays, I avoid any possible encounters with suchlike people. Call me a failure or a defeatist , although we are not supposed to be! 
 

@kangwI have a question for you. Would muslims allow their converts to ever misrepresent their religion without certain  penalty, pecuniary or otherwise? If your answer is ‘no’ then I applaud Islam and their Prophet. Thank goodness, the world has such a religion that forbids others from expressing anything negative towards it and demands accurate interpretations from everyone,  convert or non-convert! It demands decorum or else!  Have you ever encountered any converts to their religion strutting or parading around like some drama kings or queens straight from a Shakespeare theatre? Why present Sikhism as a big joke? As far as I have noticed, an average, ordinary  convert of Islam looks very serious, very pure, very devoted, and very pious. Everyone I speak to thinks the same! The new converts are shown by example to conform to their religion in a very respectful manner and not  make a circus out iit! By this, I mean the average, ordinary convert and not the extremists that are causing havoc all over the world!  No one in their right minds can approve of these morons!  In conclusion, I have to admit that I am not surprised so many sikhs are becoming muslim converts by marrying them, for their spirituality. They have  fine interpretations of their faith with loads of piety and more. Good luck to them.  They have everything under control. 

Vast majority of converts to Islam end up leaving the faith within 2-5years. Also the muslims have alot of secterian and schools of thoughts differences so it causes alot of confusion and mayhem within islam especially with the minds of new converts to islam. Alot of white people who convert to islam usually do so cos of having emotional blackmail from their muslim partner to convert. They dont really want to follow islam and carry on with their pork eating beer drinking antics long after marrying into islam and even their muslim partner ends up leaving islam on the sly that way.

So what you see on the outside of islam being one clear cut faith that all muslims know how to follow without any disagreements is actually not the case when you look deeper in muslim communities. Alot of them are cloest apostates, and hypocrite (mushriks) who pretend to follow the faith yet are having wild parties, drinking alcohol on the sly, not fasting on the sly when they are ment to, etc,etc

Every faith has its oddballs and its extremes be it far left liberal end or the far right extreme if you peer inside the religions you think have got their act together you will be suprised at whats really going on.

[Sat1]

On 5/29/2020 at 6:02 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

You

 

Threads are easy to follow. Go back and handle your business. 

You really shouldn’t be so hostile on a forum like this, it kind of defeats the purpose. Take care and goodluck.

[Sat1]

23 hours ago, kuldipk123 said:

@Sat1 Throughout my life as a Guru ka Khalsa, I have been arguing and fighting off so many characters that have a proclivity to misrepresent or misinterpret Sikhism! Even though, I am not that old yet!! It all started at school at first.  It’s just so outrageous if not scandalous to see how they have the courage to override everything in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to suit their personal leanings or agendas! Nowadays, I avoid any possible encounters with suchlike people. Call me a failure or a defeatist , although we are not supposed to be! 
 

@kangwI have a question for you. Would muslims allow their converts to ever misrepresent their religion without certain  penalty, pecuniary or otherwise? If your answer is ‘no’ then I applaud Islam and their Prophet. Thank goodness, the world has such a religion that forbids others from expressing anything negative towards it and demands accurate interpretations from everyone,  convert or non-convert! It demands decorum or else!  Have you ever encountered any converts to their religion strutting or parading around like some drama kings or queens straight from a Shakespeare theatre? Why present Sikhism as a big joke? As far as I have noticed, an average, ordinary  convert of Islam looks very serious, very pure, very devoted, and very pious. Everyone I speak to thinks the same! The new converts are shown by example to conform to their religion in a very respectful manner and not  make a circus out iit! By this, I mean the average, ordinary convert and not the extremists that are causing havoc all over the world!  No one in their right minds can approve of these morons!  In conclusion, I have to admit that I am not surprised so many sikhs are becoming muslim converts by marrying them, for their spirituality. They have  fine interpretations of their faith with loads of piety and more. Good luck to them.  They have everything under control. 

Best not engage with someone who refuses to see sense 

[GurjantGnostic]

@Sat1

Lol what a shallow cop out. Weak sauce.

This place is for Truthful discourse which I understand doesn't interest you.