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10 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

@Jassu 

If your relatives are racist, they need to change or go too. No room for racist Sikhs. And if they go getting up in people's faces screaming N***** I hope they get laid out too. And if they hit their weak <banned word filter activated> head. Oh well. 

Maybe pray at your Jatthera they get sorted out by Guru Ji before me. 

Most smart racists don’t do overt racism like they show in entertainment or something. It’s usually a lot more covert. I bet a whole bunch of people who we may see as equality banda might secretly be harboring racist or casteist views.

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Let me put it this way. A bibi is at work, is regularly harassed by this old dude, who one day finally gets in her face and says something about the Guru Sahiban and she slaps him and his weak &lt

https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2021/05/25/victim-in-fatal-tampa-dunkin-punch-case-identified/ Different source, interesting   The office of Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warre

Yes because threatening people online and insinuating they should commit suicide is very Sikh of you.  It’s the truth that a lot of our people are actually racist towards other groups all the tim

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It's all Har Kirpa. I wanted to ease myself into the hypocrisy and problems of the Paanth slowly. It's one of the reasons I joined here. I knew as I was approaching Sikhi, how perfect it is, I knew Sikhs by and large are excellent, but I also knew I was going to run into the negative aspect, and this place has allowed me to learn about Gurmat and also the problems that have taken root within us, and those we face. 

When I was truly fresh to this I knew it would break me to see the unberbelly, but as intended, the time, the information, most importantly the effects of the Gurmantar, have bolstered my immunity and resolve. 

If you're a racist, a casteist, a sexual predator and you're a Sikh, if you promote kurehit, want to change Sikhi to suit your ego, or have infiltrated, you best get it out the way before we cross paths. 

It's open season on those behaviors. 

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For the record. When those of us who understand hear a story like this told, we just start shaking our heads...make sharp inhaling noises..hang our heads...we get to the part where Corey for example punches the dude and we say "Coreyyy...noooo..bro..." Because we know he's right in a lot of ways and we know what's going to happen to him one way or another before we even hear the rest of the story. 

One on one with my younger brothers I always tell them they can't be Corey, that no matter how right it is, we can't afford to lose them over some dumb <banned word filter activated>. So there's a lot of talk of emotional intelligence, coping mechanisms, and a lot of encouragement and reinforcement of what is Right and what is real right now. 

I will in fact use Corey as an example to not be Corey moving forward. 

AND at the same time, not individually advised, but on the mass scale, I fully support a system whereby people are held directly accountable for their mouth and actions. 

If you have a friend that runs their mouth, what you tell them? Keep going and some day somebody is going to rightfully paste you one and you'll have it coming. And you'd be right. And it should be that way sometimes until it doesn't have to be that way.  

 

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5 hours ago, Jassu said:

During the height of the pandemic, a lot of Asians were facing racial abuse (I’m only mentioning verbal abuse; I’m aware of the physical abuse too) yet I didn’t hear them going around and knocking people out to the point of death.

Because most of them can't fight, that's the truth. If they could Bruce Lee a racist fudhu away they would have.  

Most race attacks are like that. The racists generally like to choose situations and people that aren't too much of a threat to them. I don't know what happened to this old fart though? Maybe he was so full of hate and contempt (and his past experiences taught him), that he thought there would be no consequences?

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4 hours ago, Jassu said:

This is more pointed towards Dally. If a Sikh man was called a… idk, a raghead or terrorist or whatever slur they use and he punches the person to the point of death then I would also literally say the same thing. The sentence shouldn’t be that high but obviously there needs to be a punishment. 

I don't think this guy, working a proper shyte job at Dunkin Donuts had any intent to kill a racist old coot that day. This is not premeditated murder. 

Plus I grew up around race attacks, so you can consider me an expert of sorts. I know a few people (who are middle aged now), who when younger, would fight back and attack racists - this sometimes involved bats, knives etc. 

Okay, they never retaliated against anyone that old, but........ and how much of an ar5e is the old gora, that he does this when all that BLM stuff is going on, and race is such an incendiary topic in the US right now? 

When I was a teenager I met a gora skinhead who 'accidently' killed someone like this in a scuffle outside a chip shop - he got three years for it. I think this guy should get two years max for involuntary manslaughter. 

https://www.draycottbrowne.co.uk/serious-crime/manslaughter-murder/involuntary-manslaughter

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2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

For the record. When those of us who understand hear a story like this told, we just start shaking our heads...make sharp inhaling noises..hang our heads...we get to the part where Corey for example punches the dude and we say "Coreyyy...noooo..bro..." Because we know he's right in a lot of ways and we know what's going to happen to him one way or another before we even hear the rest of the story. 

One on one with my younger brothers I always tell them they can't be Corey, that no matter how right it is, we can't afford to lose them over some dumb <banned word filter activated>. So there's a lot of talk of emotional intelligence, coping mechanisms, and a lot of encouragement and reinforcement of what is Right and what is real right now. 

I will in fact use Corey as an example to not be Corey moving forward. 

AND at the same time, not individually advised, but on the mass scale, I fully support a system whereby people are held directly accountable for their mouth and actions. 

If you have a friend that runs their mouth, what you tell them? Keep going and some day somebody is going to rightfully paste you one and you'll have it coming. And you'd be right. And it should be that way sometimes until it doesn't have to be that way.  

 

I got to say as well. The word p#*i, had serious power to hurt when I was younger.  It's not like that any more for me.

I feel empowered by the fact that I wouldn't have to feel what I might have when younger on hearing that word. Which is becoming increasingly more likely. 

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31 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I got to say as well. The word p#*i, had serious power to hurt when I was younger.  It's not like that any more for me.

I feel empowered by the fact that I wouldn't have to feel what I might have when younger on hearing that word. Which is becoming increasingly more likely. 

Can only imagine how much more charged it is for a forcibly enslaved, raped people, who are still denied justice and tried extrajudicialy, and ironically, feel the weight of legal "justice" much heavier than others, when they live to see court. 

End result is the same, individually they have to overcome it and get over it, but as a group or as a mass dynamic we have to respect the forces at play.

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3 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Most smart racists don’t do overt racism like they show in entertainment or something. It’s usually a lot more covert. I bet a whole bunch of people who we may see as equality banda might secretly be harboring racist or casteist views.

 

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9 hours ago, Jassu said:

Trust me if you punch an already racist man it doesn’t change anything,

Well, people physically f**king racists up made the streets safer when I was younger. I'm glad they did it. I very occasionally still meet some of the people who did this (they aren't all angels).  The alternative of constantly dodging racist abuse and attacks is no way to live, and that's what these pseudo-nazis aim for. 

Scaring the basterds into thinking twice about racially abusing someone is not a bad thing. If you analyse it, racists are exactly about trying to physically and psychologically beat down a person to accept an inferiority complex.   When they actually pull this off, it further reinforces the racist's belief that they are superior and the other person a lesser being, hence their 'natural' domination.

And these battles look like they are going to take place again here in ingland. But don't worry about all of that princess - just make sure your make up is on point and you're wearing a pretty dress......  

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https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2021/05/25/victim-in-fatal-tampa-dunkin-punch-case-identified/

Different source, interesting

 

The office of Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warren said in a statement Friday that prosecutors were moving forward with the manslaughter charge.

 

“The charge of manslaughter is legally appropriate because Pujols intentionally punched the victim without legal justification, and the victim died as a result,” the release said.

According to police and prosecutors, the incident began when Cook, a regular customer at the restaurant on 410 S 50th St., began berating the staff over the service he was getting in the drive-through lane. After being told to leave several times, Cook parked and came inside. As he was entering, Pujols, the on-duty manager at the time, told one of his coworkers to call the police.

Once inside, Cook approached the counter and continued to argue with Pujols, who remained on the opposite side of the counter, separated by a waist-high swinging door, approximately six feet away from Cook. During the argument, Cook called Pujols the n-word.

Pujols then slowly walked forward through the swinging door to come face-to-face with Cook and, with his hands at his side, warned the Cook not to say that again. Cook repeated the racial slur, and Pujols immediately punched him in the jaw, which caused the victim to fall and hit his head. Pujols then slowly walked away from him.

Cook died in the hospital three days later.

Warren’s statement acknowledged Cook’s speech was “highly inflammatory” but still legal and “does not justify violence.”

The charging document does not include Cook’s date of birth, but he appears to be the same man who made headlines in Tampa Bay in the 2000s when he was arrested and convicted on charges that would require him to register in Florida as a sexual offender. He was born in April 1944.

 

Police said Cook enticed teen boys into his home with comic books, video games and candy. He then used the boys for his pornographic fantasies, including filming himself performing sex acts with a 16-year-old boy, police said. At the time of his arrest, Cook told reporters that he was not guilty, saying there was no evidence the photographs were child pornography.

Cook was sentenced in 2008 to five years in prison for a range of charges including lewd and lascivious battery on a child, using a child in a sexual performance and several counts of unlawful sex with a minor. He was released in 2011.

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3 hours ago, Premi5 said:

https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2021/05/25/victim-in-fatal-tampa-dunkin-punch-case-identified/

Different source, interesting

 

The office of Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warren said in a statement Friday that prosecutors were moving forward with the manslaughter charge.

 

“The charge of manslaughter is legally appropriate because Pujols intentionally punched the victim without legal justification, and the victim died as a result,” the release said.

According to police and prosecutors, the incident began when Cook, a regular customer at the restaurant on 410 S 50th St., began berating the staff over the service he was getting in the drive-through lane. After being told to leave several times, Cook parked and came inside. As he was entering, Pujols, the on-duty manager at the time, told one of his coworkers to call the police.

Once inside, Cook approached the counter and continued to argue with Pujols, who remained on the opposite side of the counter, separated by a waist-high swinging door, approximately six feet away from Cook. During the argument, Cook called Pujols the n-word.

Pujols then slowly walked forward through the swinging door to come face-to-face with Cook and, with his hands at his side, warned the Cook not to say that again. Cook repeated the racial slur, and Pujols immediately punched him in the jaw, which caused the victim to fall and hit his head. Pujols then slowly walked away from him.

Cook died in the hospital three days later.

Warren’s statement acknowledged Cook’s speech was “highly inflammatory” but still legal and “does not justify violence.”

The charging document does not include Cook’s date of birth, but he appears to be the same man who made headlines in Tampa Bay in the 2000s when he was arrested and convicted on charges that would require him to register in Florida as a sexual offender. He was born in April 1944.

 

Police said Cook enticed teen boys into his home with comic books, video games and candy. He then used the boys for his pornographic fantasies, including filming himself performing sex acts with a 16-year-old boy, police said. At the time of his arrest, Cook told reporters that he was not guilty, saying there was no evidence the photographs were child pornography.

Cook was sentenced in 2008 to five years in prison for a range of charges including lewd and lascivious battery on a child, using a child in a sexual performance and several counts of unlawful sex with a minor. He was released in 2011.

"Fear for your life" justifies shooting unarmed people in the back thouh, according to law enforcement. I'd say Corey had reason to fear for his safety. And racially verbally abusing someone is a crime in all 50 states. Cops don't deal in law they deal in policy and orders. 

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