Thoughts on Chis Gayle's new Punjabi themed song

[dallysingh101]

Just now, 5aaban said:

There's a good Gurmukhi teaching system where I'm from. 

I'm talking about way back. I'm glad to hear it. 

Are the kids on it? 

[5aaban]

2 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I'm talking about way back. I'm glad to hear it. 

Are the kids on it? 

Yeah many kids attend. It's divided into 'levels' as well as ages depending on your capability. Online classes are a thing too. 

[dallysingh101]

1 minute ago, 5aaban said:

Yeah many kids attend. It's divided into 'levels' as well as ages depending on your capability. Online classes are a thing too. 

Do they use laptops/PCs/tech? 

Where do they get the books from? India?  

[dallysingh101]

19 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

I've seen a few people who don't talk to their kids in Panjabi or teach them Gurmukhi (although they're fluent speakers themselves). These are usually the same ones who hand iPads to toddlers to pacify them. 

Sounds like my brother. lol

[5aaban]

6 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Do they use laptops/PCs/tech? 

Where do they get the books from? India?  

They have printed worksheets and use videos, songs and Sikh movies to teach as well. For older/advanced people, they have big Panjabi novels and a few iPads. The online classes use Google Classroom where students submit work and they connect on a meeting program. 

[dallysingh101]

1 minute ago, 5aaban said:

They have printed worksheets and use videos, songs and Sikh movies to teach as well. For older people, they have big Panjabi novels too and a few iPads. The online classes use Google Classroom where students submit work and they connect on a meeting program. 

Well done. You put a smile on my face! lol

Actually, it's been so long I'd forgot, but my dissertation at uni was about using tech to teach Gurmukhi. 

I made this as a Powerpoint (clickable) slide years ago for my nephew, using my moms. She messed up a little bit at places though. I put the ppt file on a site somewhere and someone made a video from it!  lol

 

[dallysingh101]

14 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

They have printed worksheets and use videos, songs and Sikh movies to teach as well. For older people, they have big Panjabi novels too and a few iPads. The online classes use Google Classroom where students submit work and they connect on a meeting program. 

This looks interesting as well. 

 

[Premi5]

10 hours ago, 5aaban said:

We should have some sort of movement where we boycott this music and support clean lyrics/videos as a community. Don't think it will catch on since many of our people consume this music and singers use fake views to get into trending pages. 

These Panjabi singers indirectly pay females to dance/make reels on their songs so they get popular. 

Being very blunt, but better than that, we need to popularise Bani and Naam Jap and try to make listening to 'music' more 'shameful'. This will take a cultural shift, and I think Sant Jarnail Singh ji was quite against music and kalakaars? I know from an anecdote of a Mahapursh around 30 years ago, that Sangat asked them about geet-sangeet and the Mahapursh's answer was 'othe ki hai ? Othe hanerha hai (what's there where those who sing? It's darkness)

Really , everything else is 'kachi bani'

Even if music is 'made cleaner' it will still go the other way again eventually sooner or later. Why are these singers, some of whom have very good voices singing songs rather than Bani in the first place? There's plenty of scope for these singers to be singing different types of Bani just as there are different 'music' styles. And some of these singers actually learned Keertan in Gurdware growing up

@dallysingh101 or @shastarSingh or anyone else who has good Itihaas knowledge, are there any examples of Sakhis or Bani that our Gurus or Puratan Sikhs gave to show their attitude towards 'kachi bani' ?

[5aaban]

2 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Being very blunt, but better than that, we need to popularise Bani and Naam Jap and try to make listening to 'music' more 'shameful'. This will take a cultural shift, and I think Sant Jarnail Singh ji was quite against music and kalakaars? I know from an anecdote of a Mahapursh around 30 years ago, that Sangat asked them about geet-sangeet and the Mahapursh's answer was 'othe ki hai ? Othe hanerha hai (what's there where those who sing? It's darkness)

Really , everything else is 'kachi bani'

Even if music is 'made cleaner' it will still go the other way again eventually sooner or later. Why are these singers, some of whom have very good voices singing songs rather than Bani in the first place? There's plenty of scope for these singers to be singing different types of Bani just as there are different 'music' styles. And some of these singers actually learned Keertan in Gurdware growing up

@dallysingh101 or @shastarSingh or anyone else who has good Itihaas knowledge, are there any examples of Sakhis or Bani that our Gurus or Puratan Sikhs gave to show their attitude towards 'kachi bani' ?

Agreed. 

The singers claim they do what sells so most are in it for the money. Recently a Panjabi singer made this statement

[Premi5]

Most of the music labels are owned by city types who mostly are Hindu or atheist types. 

I think TV, radio/electronic media and internet has done more harm than good for Sikhs and Panjab generally in popularising  music.

When my Mum was growing up in 60's/70's, it was seen as shameful for girls to go see music, she sneaked out with friends to see Mohammed Siddique perform.  Not saying rules should be different for boys and girls, but an example of how attitudes have generally changed