Bammans are liars!

[shastarSingh]

Guru Nanak Dev ji has completely exposed the bamann in Sri Aasa ki Vaar.

Guru Sahib has also called them BANAARAS KE THUGG.

 

[shastarSingh]

9 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Vedic astrologers are mostly Brahmins?

Vedic astrology is very complex and modern astrologers don't have much info about it.

Astrology can predict some things to some extent but a person who has full faith on Waheguru ji, astrology is a waste of time.

[MisterrSingh]

11 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Any comments?

We need to stop obsessing over these "bammans". They've set their sights beyond us, and want to elevate their nation to top status, while we're crying about things that were socially relevant 500+ years ago. The Brahmin upper classes are whatever they are. There are social elites in every single society on this planet. The question is HOW are WE improving our OWN situation?

[Ranjeet01]

Bammans are liars.

In other news "Water is wet"

[SinghPunjabSingh]

19 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

We need to stop obsessing over these "bammans". They've set their sights beyond us, and want to elevate their nation to top status, while we're crying about things that were socially relevant 500+ years ago. The upper classes are whatever they are. There are social elites in every single society on this planet. The question is HOW are WE improving our OWN situation?

You are absolutely right.

Brahmin's are 3% of the Indian population and control at max perhaps 5% of the Indian economy.

The vast majority of Brahmins live in poverty albeit there was a "creamy layer" which had succeeded politically.

But the Gujarati's openly boast of having ended Brahmin "Dynasty" Raj and having replaced it with "Bania Raj".

Yet a lot of our people are still living in the stone ages blaming Brahmins for having "enslaved" them. It's bizarre.

The most popular Amritdhari poster on this site (Mehtab Singh) was a former (Hindu) "Brahmin" too!

On 4/2/2022 at 7:59 PM, shastarSingh said:

Any comments?

Are you aware that most of the Kashmiri Sikhs are predominantly of Brahmin ancestry?

Have you ever heard of Shaheed Bhai Mati Das Ji and Shaheed Bhai Sati Das Ji?

Are you aware of the seven (Amritdhari) Sharma brothers from Patiala who defied Indira's tanks in June 1984?

Have you heard of Pandit Kirpa Singh Dutt? Bhat Sikhs laid the foundations for Sikhi in the UK. 

Were the Bhat's who wrote Gurbani (Shabad Guru) also liars according to your opinion?

If you are aware of the above facts then instead of complaining about "bahmans" and "bhaapay" why don't you concentrate on educating some of the 40 million Hindu Brahmin's to join the Sikh Panth instead of hating us?

[MisterrSingh]

3 hours ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

You are absolutely right.

Brahmin's are 3% of the Indian population and control at max perhaps 5% of the Indian economy.

The vast majority of Brahmins live in poverty albeit there was a "creamy layer" which had succeeded politically.

But the Gujarati's openly boast of having ended Brahmin "Dynasty" Raj and having replaced it with "Bania Raj".

Yet a lot of our people are still living in the stone ages blaming Brahmins for having "enslaved" them. It's bizarre.

A while ago I decided I really needed to understand what's going on in India without the biased Western filter that still sees the country through a colonial lens regardless of political or ideological persuasion, and also without the Sikh filter that I know is just all over the place in terms of reality.

They're beginning to produce intellectuals and thinkers grounded in Indian civilisational values who can stand against anyone from the West. They're establishing a mood which rejects the West's so-called values and ideology that are based on the Abrahamic systems, and instead arguing that Abrahamic philosophies and their contemporary derivatives have no place among Dharmic people and nations. It's basically decolonising a mass consciousness but not in the way cowardly Westerners do it by completely jettisoning reason and perspective. IF this movement gathers steam, we could see the cancerous current World Order come to an end in the coming centuries.

The desire to disassociate from Brahmins who, as you incisively point out, historically aligned with outsiders (Mughals, British, and now the shadowy Globalist elites of the West) to actively oppress their own kind by colluding with invaders, is something that is not lost on this emerging class of thinkers and speakers. They're defining a clear vision and an identity for themselves. They're identifying Islam as a real and unavoidable threat that can't be ignored in the hope they regulate their own excesses.

Sure, there's statecraft and propaganda involved like with all issues of rajneeti, but overall there's something in the air that I feel these people are striving to achieve, and you simply cannot begrudge them their desire to not exist under the boot of others while also striving for the stars. I wish we had people  on our side who had that kind of vision. We don't produce them anymore. Or if we do they're denied a voice. We're mired in the mitti of village skirmishes while these people are agitating for change on the global stage. I'm seriously tired of our hollow and boisterous bluster when there's nothing of substance behind it.

[proudkaur21]

6 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

A while ago I decided I really needed to understand what's going on in India without the biased Western filter that still sees the country through a colonial lens regardless of political or ideological persuasion, and also without the Sikh filter that I know is just all over the place in terms of reality.

They're beginning to produce intellectuals and thinkers grounded in Indian civilisational values who can stand against anyone from the West. They're establishing a mood which rejects the West's so-called values and ideology that are based on the Abrahamic systems, and instead arguing that Abrahamic philosophies and their contemporary derivatives have no place among Dharmic people and nations. It's basically decolonising a mass consciousness but not in the way cowardly Westerners do it by completely jettisoning reason and perspective. IF this movement gathers steam, we could see the cancerous current World Order come to an end in the coming centuries.

The desire to disassociate from Brahmins who, as you incisively point out, historically aligned with outsiders (Mughals, British, and now the shadowy Globalist elites of the West) to actively oppress their own kind by colluding with invaders, is something that is not lost on this emerging class of thinkers and speakers. They're defining a clear vision and an identity for themselves. They're identifying Islam as a real and unavoidable threat that can't be ignored in the hope they regulate their own excesses.

Sure, there's statecraft and propaganda involved like with all issues of rajneeti, but overall there's something in the air that I feel these people are striving to achieve, and you simply cannot begrudge them their desire to not exist under the boot of others while also striving for the stars. I wish we had people  on our side who had that kind of vision. We don't produce them anymore. Or if we do they're denied a voice. We're mired in the mitti of village skirmishes while these people are agitating for change on the global stage. I'm seriously tired of our hollow and boisterous bluster when there's nothing of substance behind it.

You talk about decolonization lol but these people talk about it for sometime then they are back to boot licking whites. I mean a white person making a commentary on Indian movies will get a million views. Alot of things are just talks but I dont see any decolonization happening in that population. Even in Canada they will align with these right wing types to defame Sikhs and khalistan. A few people here and there taking a stand against whites or stuff means nothing when you see how much self hate runs in the people of that country. They will talk about kicking out abrahamic religions and Christian missionaries but then see their behaviour with the white people on social media and you wonder why they go back to acting like subordinates.

[proudkaur21]

10 hours ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

You are absolutely right.

Brahmin's are 3% of the Indian population and control at max perhaps 5% of the Indian economy.

The vast majority of Brahmins live in poverty albeit there was a "creamy layer" which had succeeded politically.

But the Gujarati's openly boast of having ended Brahmin "Dynasty" Raj and having replaced it with "Bania Raj".

Yet a lot of our people are still living in the stone ages blaming Brahmins for having "enslaved" them. It's bizarre.

The most popular Amritdhari poster on this site (Mehtab Singh) was a former (Hindu) "Brahmin" too!

Are you aware that most of the Kashmiri Sikhs are predominantly of Brahmin ancestry?

Have you ever heard of Shaheed Bhai Mati Das Ji and Shaheed Bhai Sati Das Ji?

Are you aware of the seven (Amritdhari) Sharma brothers from Patiala who defied Indira's tanks in June 1984?

Have you heard of Pandit Kirpa Singh Dutt? Bhat Sikhs laid the foundations for Sikhi in the UK. 

Were the Bhat's who wrote Gurbani (Shabad Guru) also liars according to your opinion?

If you are aware of the above facts then instead of complaining about "bahmans" and "bhaapay" why don't you concentrate on educating some of the 40 million Hindu Brahmin's to join the Sikh Panth instead of hating us?

Well I'm pretty sure he is talking about Hindu Brahmins not the ones that became Sikhs. Do they remain Brahmins after becoming Sikhs?

[proudkaur21]

On 4/3/2022 at 3:04 AM, MisterrSingh said:

We need to stop obsessing over these "bammans". They've set their sights beyond us, and want to elevate their nation to top status, while we're crying about things that were socially relevant 500+ years ago. The Brahmin upper classes are whatever they are. There are social elites in every single society on this planet. The question is HOW are WE improving our OWN situation?

Just because it exists in other societies doesnt mean it's okay. We can clearly see what these certain elite societies plan to do all over the world.

[MisterrSingh]

9 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

You talk about decolonization lol but these people talk about it for sometime then they are back to boot licking whites. I mean a white person making a commentary on Indian movies will get a million views. of things are just talks but I dont see any decolonization happening in that population. Even in Canada they will align with these right wing types to defame Sikhs and khalistan. A few people here and there taking a stand against whites or stuff means nothing when you see how much self hate runs in the people of that country. They will talk about kicking out abrahamic religions and Christian missionaries but then see their behaviour with the white people on social media and you wonder why they go back to acting like subordinates.

That one bootlicker represents millions of them? 

Plus, you're falling into the trap of not understanding that there's a definite divide in contemporary Indian society between the India / native culture prioritising BJP and the modern, Leftist-esque, Globalist-and-Muslim-appeasing Congress supporters. The latter are the ones who fetishise the West and are always seeking Western approval. Sure, there's overlaps, but my eyes have certainly been opened to a few matters I was ignorant of. The former tend to harp on about not being seen to be any less than the Western powers and wanting the trillions of currency looted by the Brits. Don't take your understanding of India from this forum or social media like I did, lol. You'll end up clowning yourself.

It's very similar to how the divide between Trump fanboys and the Democrats played out. You had the leftist media and intellectuals believing Trump supporters were basically uneducated pendus while they themselves were highly informed, outward looking, and just generally a more intelligent and tolerant class of people. Something similar to that is playing out in India, and I'll tell you that this burgeoning Islamic problem we have in Punjab isn't going to be touched by the pro-Muslim Congress aligned media and politicians. It's going to be the Modi crew that will get things done. So we let them do it.