2 quick questions

[Pheena]

1. Who said, 'Rehat bina na Sikh Kahavay' and where is it documented?

2. In What Granth is the quote from Guru Gobind Singh ji located, "Rehat piyari muj ko Sikh piyara nahi" ?

Much appreciate if you can answer these with a Quickness x 2. B)

Waheguru.

[V]

1. Who said, 'Rehat bina na Sikh Kahavay' and where is it documented?

2. In What Granth is the quote from Guru Gobind Singh ji located, "Rehat piyari muj ko Sikh piyara nahi" ?

Much appreciate if you can answer these with a Quickness x 2. B)

Waheguru.

the first one is

Bhai desa Singh ji Rehitnama

i THINK that refers to the other as well, nto positiv though

You can find this in the LAST section of Amrit Kirtan called

'Rehni Rehe'

bhull chukk maaf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Simran9]

I found this book at home...Katha Updesh Saagar, by Giani Bhagat Singh ji (Khalsa High School), published in 1951.

about this line :"Rehat piyari muj ko Sikh piyara nahi"

The book says that in the Rehitnama it says: "rehit pyari moh ko sikh pyaro nahi"

So now I wanna know which one is correct? :T:

[Mkhalsa]

probably both, many lines that guru jee said are repeated throughout various rehatnamas with slightly different twists. This is why it is accepted as genuine by the panth, because it is found in so many sources.

[simmal tree]

sometimes guru sahib spoke with different sangats too...

so he had to speak in their language

that's why guru granth sahib jee has so many languages in the gurmukhi script

i'm sure guru sahib told people spiritual teachings in farsi / persian in iraq, in chinese in north of tibet, in english in west of turkey, and in african on the tips of africa

guru sahib knew everything and spoke in every way that could get people to understand the true message... but of course gurmukhi is the "alaahi" or "god-sent" script

[Pheena]

i never knew Guru Gobind Singh ji spoke in English, chinese ?? hmm

So is the First line from Bhai Desa Sing's Rehitnama?

And th eSecond is located in the Dasam Granth Correct? If so can anyone tell me in what part?

Thanks again for y'alls help.

Waheguru.

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

"'Rehat bina na Sikh Kahavay" - stated by Bhai Desa Singh in his Rehatnama (Amrit Kirtan). A more full passage:

rehinee rehai soee sikh maeraa ||

ouh t(h)aakur mai ous kaa chaeraa ||

rehith binaa(n) nehi sikh kehaavai ||

rehith binaa(n) dhar chottaa(n) khaavai ||

rehith binaa(n) sukh kabahu(n) n lehae ||

thaa(n) thae rehith s dhrirr kar rehai ||

khhaalasaa khhaas kehaavai soee jaa(n) kae hiradhae bharam n hoee ||

bharam bhaekh thae rehai niaaraa so khhaalas sathiguroo hamaaraa ||

(Source: http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=10163)

The only material available to me that points to the quote in question # 2, namely about "Rehat piyari muj ko Sikh piyara nahi", is on Sikhnet Youth Forum, which states that it is from Bhai Desa Singh Ji. (That post is here: http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/youth.nsf/3...3;OpenDocument). HOWEVER, I checked the reference they are using (Amrit Kirtan) and it is not in there. So methinks that the post at Sikhnet is wrong.

Anyone else know?

[Simran9]

rehinee rehai soee sikh maeraa ||

ouh t(h)aakur mai ous kaa chaeraa ||

for these two lines my book says: rihee rehai soee sikh maeraa|| ouh sahib mai ous kaa chaeraa||

the first word "rihee" i don't how to spell it in english but in punjabi that's raraa, the matra you use before sasaa when you write singh-->the "i" what's it called?, then hahaa, eeree, and the matraa that gives eeee sound.

lol, i don't know which one is the sihari and which one is bihari. hope that helps to understand what that first word is.

i guess this is another example of using different vocabulary for different sangat B)

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

Yeah, interesting that Sikhitothemax uses the work thakur...considering what is commonly stated is Sahib (confirmed by the Amrit Kirtan Pothi as well...perhaps it is a mistake by Sikhitothemax.com).

[Pheena]

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