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All the hate videos need to have English sub-titles as well, and re-uploaded by one of the Sikh organizations and then passed on to all human rights groups so that they can see what kind of sick minds these orange robed "saints" really have.

I think we sitting at abroad could not do whole lot at ground level but few things we could try to bring awareness of hindu terrorism is- - support christian human rights group here abroad- fighting for human right issues in India against christian by fanatic hindus- rss. We should work in collaboration with christian human rights group here abroad. Why christian? well in canada we have christian conservative party if we lobby human right issues through christian human rights group in Canada..we might be able to get some impact or support from gov't..get public statement from them condemning hindu terrorism. - Have a sikh youth body set up on social media whose daily job is to download all hindu terrorism video against all minorities in india and re-post them on youtube/social media with eye catching hash tag i.e- Indian tourism, Incredible India etc etc etc.

Brothers once again we see the ugly head of arya samaj hindustani hindu terrorists rise above the gutter trying to invite and provoke Sikhs into physical confrontation with the intention of labelling our community as villians and terrorists so we have to be careful to their gameplan. These anti-sikh dogs have barked for a long time in fact in the 19th century seeing the success of the Sikh religion and philosophy convert many a hindu, buddhist and muslim to the faith they with jealously tried to create a reform movement based on Sikh model and principles in effort to stop the flow of hindu's (in particular low caste hindus) into Sikhism. And when the punjab was split in 1947 jihadi's got full rein to murder non-muslims as they wished and these hindu goons of various hindu death cults (RSS, VHP, Ayra Samaj, Ram Sena,etc) were busy killing muslims and sometimes even sikhs in cloak and daggar style trying to incite trouble between the two to get Sikhs involved also in the mayhem. In 1950s to 1960s they were busy trying to promote "hindu hindu hindustan" against Indian native regional customs, traditions, languages, religions.... they were also against Sikhs and for punjabi being the national language of pepsu (punjab) which then had to be divided into 3 other states to commodate for hindu majority demands with creation of haryana and himacel pardesh out of punjab. From 1970s onwards various hindu hooligans they tried to attack Sikh scriptures, shrines and innocent Sikhs minding their own business. The government and police were unsympathic as it is a hindu majority country and Sikhs were seen as unwanted troublesome people who were trying to reclaim their rights, voice and dignity lost since so called indian hindustani azaadi in 1947. Then in 1980s things came to ahead when Sikhs having had enough of the naked daily oppression and discrimintion took justice in their own hands under the leadership of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale as the government was not giving the Sikh community any justice for what the hindu miscreants (sometimes in police or army uniform) were doing. And we all saw how the Indian goverment launched operation blue star then anti-sikh genocide in nov 1984 and killing fields of punjab using under cover criminals who killed innocent civilians as well as separaist Sikhs with impunity. So we have to ask ourselves, do we actually recognise our enemy yet? or do we need another 1984 for us to truely wake up and see what has been going on, the pattern of events seem familiar. Brothers we need to monitor these hindu terrorists very carefully and use appropriate laws against them. If you go on facebook you can see how they are openly recruiting for members of shiv sena, brahmin sena, bajrang dal, etc units across india by handing each other their mobile fone numbers. Sikhs in Punjab are not that organised and even if our brothers adopted the same strategy on facebook they will have the hindu dominated government intelligence agencies monitoring them more than the actual and real threat posed by hindu extremists who are well known to do false flag attacks and provoke religious minorities to fight so they can murder and destroy as they done to Buddhists (in the past), Muslims, Sikhs, Christians. So we dont have any option but to act now being idle and thinking it will all go away is wishful thinking, naam jaaping all day will not avert the tide, Guru Ji's have taught and shown Sikhs need to provide their own defence forces. When a storm is coming, you prepare...and Sikhs in the west have been gifted with good jobs in media, industries, political fields and are university graduates .... its time we united under nishaan sahib and ensure the hindu extremists these hindustani agent provocetuers are not given a chance to get away with any more murders and genocides.

This isn't a debate. The moderator isn't neutral. He is pushing one viewpoint, and keeps interrupting people who disagree with him. It's brainwashing.

Look at that debate. Those Indians act as if the Indian army is beyond criticism. Notice the reaction of those guys when that Sikh bibi compared the 84 attack by the Indian army to the attack of Darbar Sahib by Ahmad Shah Abdali centuries earlier. They couldn't beleive that she could have said such a thing or that she has the "audacity" to criticism the attack by the Indian army which for them is beyond criticism. One thing I have noticed about many Hindus is that they cannot digest the fact of why Sikhs do not support the attack on the Darbar Sahib in 84. It's almost like they think it was a good and righteous act by the Indian army and expect the Sikhs to be supportive of this attack. Just look at the BJP. They will disagree with the congress and the Nehru family in all thing big or small, but even they are united and supportive of the Congress and Indira Ganthi when it comes to the 84 attack. In fact the BJP will try to take all the credit of the attack by claiming it was because of the pressure they put on Indira Ganthi that this attack even occurred. This type of behavior by the Hindus is unbelievable to say the least!

The concepts of Sikhi are universal. The practitioners of the faith are, however, from a certain background and location, and call it 'discrimination' or plain prejudice but it does limit the faith to the kind of people Sikhi should appeal to. However that's not our fault, lol. What does worry me is how there doesn't seem to be big, original thinkers at the top of Sikhi that want to take the faith forward and out of India. Everything seems to be mired in Punjab with its associated politics and cultural outlook. For the future it does seem Sikhi is falling more and more into the 'organised religion' category, hence why many people dismiss it out of hand without really knowing what it's all about. "It's just another 'ism'" is what I've read some people say about Sikhi. That's not good.

Really love how he put it. I think too much we, as Sikhs, try too hard to show that we are Sikhs without acting like Sikhs. Our identity should be enough to show we're Sikhs, but with our identity our actions should very powerfully dictate who we are. Guru Sahib didn't create a religion as used by western term, but a Dharam for humanity a lifestyle of truth and treading a path. Sikh means student so we should act as such. There is a big void that exists in overly religions people (mostly people who are stuck in the trap of ritualism in organized religion) and a big void in crusading atheists. There is something Universal that connects us all and that Truth is what Guru Sahib tells us about. Some may find this a weird post and if you do, feel free to post why you think so. Nanak Naam Chardi Kalaa Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhalla Sab Jot Teri Jag Jeevana Tu Ghat Ghat Har Rang Rangana

It's just not limited to sgpc, its pretty much everywhere - for eg- women cannot do akhand patt in taksal due to the concern - what if women is in her period so on and so forth. I mean i understand the reasoning behind certain things behind it but quite frankly it cannot be shoved down throats to all women all across the board especially among those sikh converts who were not bought up in indic culture.

This is from http://www.sasorg.co.uk/ (Sikhawareness Society) Sun 21 Oct 2012 Sexual Grooming 11.30am Singh Sabha Gurdwara 1 Calderwood Street Woolwich London SE18 6QW

I agree with most of what you have said, but I don't know about supporting Christians in India. In India these Christians are very active in converting Sikh too. I wish we were more active in defending our religion from them as we are from the Hindus. These Christians are like the Radhasoamis, they enter your house from the back door and you don't even know about it until your entire family is converted to their faith behind your back. We need to keep an open eye for these Christians as well as RSS/Arya Sama Hindus.

Interestingly, the way you type and the language you use...is extremely similar to the OP of this post: http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/68592-want-to-end-this/page__fromsearch__1 Not only this. Your chosen 'guest name' is "_das_" and the one in the other post is "_me_". The OPs of both posts are 19. But amazingly, one seems to be incredibly poor and the other one quite rich!!! Waheguru!!! Rabb hi Raakha!

See what she has to say about it: http://www.kaurista.com/2012/10/09/dear-kaur-a-letter-from-balpreet-kaur/

wjkk wjkf sadh sangat jio... i just wanted to ask how can we open our kundalini points... is it through meditation or yoga? if not then what ? THANKS WJKK WJKF

Thanks every1 for helping :toohappy: :hug: :biggrin2:

Our defense to these shiva sena mobs is to become shastardhari and know how to use physical shastars. If they are alone in the crowd they are wussies but if they are in team with their fellow shiv senas they can do significant damage with their mob mentality- destroy everyone with dastar, kara, punjabi suit. So yeah for shiv sena punks- people in punjab need to become shastardhari but for rss become shaaastar dhari (knowledge in rajniti/scriptures etc).

The hardest part of getting up at Amritvela is the actual act of getting up from the bed. Many times when the alarm goes off, we are in half sleep and just shut off the alarm and go back to sleep. If you are having trouble getting up, the best way to get up is to put your alarm clock far away. So when it rings, you will be forced to get out of your bed to shut it off. This is what works for me at least.

We are at war, plain and simple. The Hindu Takht will be honoring Sajjan Kumar in the near future to respond to SGPC's honoring Shaheeds Sukha Jinda. Oue heroes are seen as foes by them, their heroes are seen as monsters by us. We are at war Singho, and we're at war already. The sooner you wake up to it and realize it, the better. Problem is that while we don't want this to turn into a Hindu vs Sikh deal, these Kuttee Sena will make it look like that. They say they will purposely hurt Sikh sentiments. They are openly declaring war on us and have hidden agendas on how they will be executing their planned operations. Yes, we're at war, plain and simple.

I'm probably in the minority, but I am glad that the SGPC is doesn't comment on Khalistan or 84 or whatever. That is not their role. Their job is to maintain Gurdwaras, that's it. It's the Akal Takht's job to do the commenting and whatnot. The less the SGPC is involved with Sikh politics the better

a few names/history: http://www.sikhnet.com/news/akal-takhat-jethedar-history jathedars after 1920: Jathedar Teja Singh Ji Bhuchar (1920–1921), before him was Jathedar Arur Singh Naushshera (1907-1920), resigned in 1920. Jathedar Teja Singh Ji Akerpuri (1921–1923) & (1926–1930) Jathedar Udham Singh Ji Nagoki (1923–1924) Jathedar Bhai Acchar Singh Ji (1924–1925) Jathedar Didar Singh Ji (about a month in 1926) Jathedar Jawaher Singh Ji (very short period in 1926) Jathedar Giani Gurmukh Singh Ji Musaffer (1930-1931) Jathedar Mohan singh Ji Nagoki (1931-1938) Jathedar Giani Partap Singh Ji (1938-1948) Jathedar Bhai Sadhu Singh Ji Bhaura (1948-1963) Jathedar Gurdial Singh Ji Ajnoha (1980-1983) Jathedar Bhai Kirpal Singh Ji (1963-1965) & (1983-1986) Jathedar Prof. Darshan Singh Ji (1986) Jathedar Bhai Jasbir Singh Ji Rodae (1986) Jathedar Bhai Gurdev Singh Ji Kaunke (1986-1990s) Jathedar Prof. Manjit Singh Ji Jathedar Bhai Ranjit Singh Ji Jathedar Giani Puran singh Ji Jathedar Joginder Singh Ji Vadanti Jathedar Gurbachan Singh Ji i think this is the original akal takht uncovered after bluestar and rebuilding the akal takht

OnlyFiveji, If you go back and reread the post and comments like I have done, you should realise that I am not pointing fingers at anyone. I simply gave my opinion about the impressions that some amritdharies make pretty obvious. Instead, you go jumping the gun and firing away at full speed on the defensive. In all honesty, it's not a nice impression that you give, especially when you are trying to represent the amritdharies. Me personally, I am the lowest of the low, so I wouldn't even dream of trying to defend any non-amritdhari. But in my experience, I have had more hope and been shown more inspiration from some non-amritdharies that I have come across compared to the amritdharis. Sadly, you may have not come across such people, but that's how it has been for me. I am walking the same path as you, however I am not at the stage to take amrit as yet. I have a lot more to attain and dress within myself before I start dressing my outer self. Saying this every single day I feel a step closer to be personally eligible for amrit. Every day, I think that Today I am more closer than Yesterday and that I also have more love today for the lord than I did yesterday. With this in mind, I have started to participate with the sangat on here to get even more reassurance and love for our Waheguru. However, your negative comments and unwelcoming has thrown my hopes and goals back by many days. For someone who is looking for more inspiration and love towards amrit like me and then to encounter your stance on this subject is NOT at all welcoming or helpful to the sikh panth in any regard. So before you go and frighten someone else or make them feel not worthy as your good self, I urge you to think deep and hard with what you exactly say and what you intend to teach. As I said earlier, what I stated were my personal opinions (no reason to provide backup or references here) and these opinions are subjective. ie.. come with actual encountered experiences. These opinions, I still hold strongly, and with your dialogue, I have actually come to hold them stronger. Waheguru

I don't suggest going to a dermatologist in this specific case. If there was another condition (almost any other), I would recommend going to a professional. In this case if it's normal pimple problem (or even terrible) and there isn't an actual medical condition, they will prescribe very strong medicine that will be dangerous for your liver and/or excessively dry up your skin. Again, I suggest margo soap at least three times a day. In the morning use it while showering. During the day wash the face with warm water and then use margo soap and wash off the soap with warm water. After that wash it again with cold water. (warm water opens pores and allows it to clean - cold water closes the pores). Do this again before sleeping. It won't be an instant transformation overnight, but it is rather quick and with discipline it should work.

Get margo soap and wash your face three times a day with it. Smells weird but works great. It has neem in it which naturally kills bacteria and cleans up the face.

a few tips i used/use to continuously build up on amrithvela. 1) set yourself a bed time; no matter what your going to aim to be in bed for that time. 2) aim at setting yourself a 20-60minute power nap after amrithvela. itll help you and you wont feel so tired in the long run. 3) when your alarm goes off think to yourself 'i got to get up to talk to vaheguru je now or else ill be trouble (found this works miracles for me especially now as its getting towards winter as it tricks my mind lol) 4) make the aim of your day your amrithvela meaning everything you do that day has your amrithvela for the next day as the aim. in other words youll do everything on a time scale to make sure your in bed by x time and up for x time. as this will slowly become a routine and youll feel better and more easily be able to get up for amrithvela. 5) if your parents wake up early then aim to be in the shower before them; that way you leave yourself no choice but to wake up otherwise youll be 'late' for that very important 'talk with vaheguru jee'. hope those tips help

@ MrDoabaSorry ji.... guess i didn't spell it right..... I hate spelling not good at it lol :blush2: Thank you so much :biggrin2:

What is this about Guru Gobind Singh Ji coming back? Are we Sikhs or are we Christians?.. We are Sikhs and why would Guru Gobind Singh Ji come back? He lives in his Khalsa and in the Guru Granth Sahib! Guru Gobind Singh Ji mediated on Hemkunt Sahib and he was ordered by God to be born to Guru Tegh Bahadhur Ji and Mata Gujri to fulfill the task of becoming the 10th Guru of the Sikhs and to give birth to the Khalsa. This is written by the Guru himself in Bachittar Natak! Why would Guru Gobind Singh Ji come back? Ridiculous statement.. But I do believe Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale will be back... Because the task of gaining Sikhs their equal rights has not been fulfilled yet. Sant Sunder Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale, Damdami Taksaal's 11th Jathedar, was doing Parkama of Harminder Sahib and he came to a stop on the spot where Baba Deep Singh Ji attained Shaheedi. The Sangat asked Sant Ji why they had stopped? Sant Ji replied that there will be a time when the Indian Gov't will attack Harminder Sahib and a Jathedar of the Damdami Taksaal will protect the purity of Harminder Sahib. People will think that this Jathedar has gotten Shaheeded. But during a jang, this Jathedar will come back from the Attari border, bow down before the Guru Granth Sahib at Harminder Sahib and fight to gain Sikhs their Khalsa Raaj. That Jathedar is none other than Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale. Sant Ji is in CHARDI KALA so that when he comes back, he can successfully gain Sikhs their Khalsa Raaj as ordered by Guru Gobind Singh Ji.