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I've known Sukha Singh for a long time, first met him 11 years ago. Whatever things we do, if there is one thing we can be sure of, is that Vaheguru is all powerful and all forgiving. Thats why paapis like me are able to come into his sharan. Guruji bless Sukha Singh with seva and simran and all of us too, please help by sharing his videos

The biggest problem with us is that we think others are like us too. Wake up Khalsa jee, others are NOT like us. We have a Pooran SatGuru who gave us character, who taught us to be just even in times of strife. Can the others look up their history and say the same about those they worship? Wake up, don't expect others to have your level of deen-imaan, your kind of integrity, your type of Khalsaaee kadar-keemat. We have our Gurdev Pita jee Sahib-E-Kamaal Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj, the one and only personality on this planet who did bhagti in bir rass. Anyone else qualifies? NO! Wake up, no one else has the sense of belonging the way we do, we belong only to our Gurdev Pita jee. Who do others belong to? Whose tokens of love do they carry the way we carry our kakaars? We are blessed with a saroop because we carry a responsibility. Does anyone else qualify? NO! Wake up! Stop trusting just about anyone because they are nice from time to time. Stop expecting others to be the way you are because you are a different breed since you are to abide by a mandatory norm. When Dasmesh Pita jee said that Khalsa is to stay niyaara, it also means that no one else is like the Khalsa. No one else has the kind of character that Khalsa has, no one else has deen-imaan, kadar-keemat the way Khalsa does, no one else has a satkaarjog saroop that Khalsa has. All these people around you are under NO obligation to be the best human beings, but you blessed Khalsas will have the sweet burden of that Guru-given duty on your head till you die. Wake up! Love all, trust a few, but have no expectations from anyone Khalsa jee, because Khalsa lives a life of commitment to our SatGuru Patshah jee, others tend to live a life they at times find aimless and can't define even themselves. Wake up! There is way we are expected to live in society, and that was given to us by our param pyaare SatGuru Patshah jee long before these man-made handwritten laws were created or implemented. I am not asking you to look down upon anyone, or to hate anyone, or to dislike anyone, or to degrade or put anyone down. I am only begging you to please be niyaare in every aspect of your lifestyle. And I am only rebuking myself to stand up and be who and what I am, NOT who and what the world wants to see me as. - Mehtab Singh

Sikh lobby in Canada take on Congress lobby of Manmohan Singh and Preneet Kaur and come out on top as Harper supports right of Sikhs in Canada to campaign for Sikh homeland ression/article5085143/'>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/on-sikh-separatism-harper-in-india-defends-freedom-of-expression/article5085143/ http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1284671--prime-minister-stephen-harper-pushes-back-on-warnings-of-sikh-extremism

Hi there, if you are interested in learning more, please have a look at our youtube channel for videos in english about Sikhi http://www.youtube.com/basicsofsikhi

Which professor? is an 8 grade who has not seen gates of a university a professor? Who made him professor.Here comes question of ethics.A person who does not have any ethics what will he teach his followers.Ask him point blank what are his academic qualifications? You need to read first post of this thread.Gursikh states that one person from sangat at slough Gurudawara wanted to ask question to dhun dha and he was not allowed to do that. For sikhs whole of dasam granth sahib is from Dasam pita.Sikh panth has decided it long back and manuscripts from guru period are available still. Only for heretics there is a doubt. Absolutely not. Structure of dasam granth does not aloow that. chhands are numbered in such a way that no one can tamper with. again we have Guru Granth and Guru panth.

Another thing. Only religion I know of to have its leaders writings with them, unedited by mortal hands.

SIKH FEDERATION WELCOME END TO £280M A YEAR FINANCIAL AID TO INDIA The Sikh Federation (UK) has been campaigning for many years for the UK Government to end financial aid to India. Today the UK Government announced that aid to India will come to an end. Although all existing financial grants will be honoured, the UK will not sign off any new programmes from now on. Last year the UK gave India about £250m in bilateral aid as well as £29m in technical co-operation. Until last year, when it was overtaken by Ethiopia, India was the biggest recipient of bilateral aid from the UK. India is now the third largest investor in the UK and the largest market for British goods outside the EU. But the UK's support for India and no support whatsoever for Punjab has been a cause of concern for British Sikh taxpayers for many years that the Sikh Federation (UK) has been discussing with the Department for International Development. A spokesman for the Federation said: ‘Today’s announcement by the International Development Secretary, Justine Greening, that the existing development aid to India will be stopped is an excellent first step.’ ‘We have campaigned for this for many years and last communicated with the Minister on this issue only a matter of weeks ago. We made a further written request at the start of this week.’ ‘Our concern is the Punjab needs direct development aid from foreign governments, like the UK, as it is neglected by those in Delhi to tackle a host of acute problems linked to the environment, neglect of rural areas, drug abuse and political change.’ ‘This financial aid should not be given to the Indian State or the Punjab State government, but to non-governmental organisations working in Punjab. However, the existing aid from the UK was being pumped into five other Indian states for many years and also money was not reaching those most in need.’ Aid to India has only been picked up as an issue by the wider UK public, as well as many MPs in the last couple of years with the economic downturn. Many believed that the UK should not be giving money to a country which has a multi-million pound space programme. Ministers have defended the level of financial help in the past on the basis of the extreme poverty that remains in rural areas and historical colonial ties between the two countries. Save the Children said "We agree that in the longer term, aid to India should be phased out”, but the UK should support non-government organisations. Labour MP Keith Vaz, was unhappy on hearing the announcement and wants the UK Government to reassure its Indian counterpart that their bilateral relationship was still a priority. War on Want, which campaigns to end global poverty, said financial support needed to be "smarter" and geared towards supporting "progressive movements" capable of bringing about political change and tackling growing inequality.

*WARNING* Genie and LuckySingh99 have been given a warning for his anti-Dasam Granth posts and comments. May i remind all members that Sikh Sangat will NOT tolerate any anti-Dasam Granth topics or posts. As per directive from Sri Akal Takhat Sahib, Sri Dasam Granth Sahib is an integral part of the Sikh Panth and will always remain so. Any further violations of this rule will result in direct ban.

shaheed bhai Amrik Singh Ji

Lol @ Mehtab Singh!

Haven't listened to gaane and stuff for quite a while, but this thread has got me addicted to coke studio. Anyways, this is the one that's touched me so far. This one's cool too!

Most of the killings were down to RAW and hindu extremist groups who were killing their own (usually lower caste migrant laborers) along with many more innocent Sikh civilians as part of the Indian state machinery's brahminwad politics for the leaders to keep their hold on power. Sant Bhindranwale makes it quite clear that if a Sikh killed someone who insults a womans honor (indecently attacks her or rapes her) then its not a sin to kill that attacker or if anyone physically attacks saroop of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji then its not a sin to kill them as Guru Sahib is our commander and chief and our everything in this temporal life .......someone who attacks SGGS JI automatically gets the death penalty as per Sikh history and traditions. He explicitly spoke out against attacking innocents and attacking people who do not commit those 2 big sins you can view the videos of his speeches on youtube. Did rogue elements who were Sikhs kill hindus in their own personal disputes? Maybe as Sant Bhindranwale did not and could not have a control on ALL the armed Sikhs of Punjab he wasnt that popular nor was he an absolute dictator where his word was final. Every individual could either listen to advice of Sant ji or act on their own stupid desires and personal vendetta's. When the Indian state armed forces mostly made up of Hindu's and whose orders came from Hindu officers and politicians attacked peaceful Sikh protestors in agitations for more rights they were killed by police indiscriminate firing and many of the families of deceased did not get any justice then it set about a dangerous cycle of violence as Sikhs increasingly saw how they were being discriminated by a hindu dominated state. Here is some interesting information on the role of the RAW "Its (RAW's) mandate in the Punjab was to aid and abet the murders and killings in Punjab. It kept the supply of lethal weapons flowing into the Golden Temple. This Agency also allowed 47 railway stations to be blown up." (Surya Sep. 84) According to some senior officers of Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) who were disillusioned with their service conditions on being relegated to a secondary position by the Third Agency, the launching of the Army action under Operation "Bluestar" and "Woodrose" was scripted, enacted and closed by the Intelligence Agencies under the directions of the Prime Minister, Indira Gandhi. RAW and Intelligence Bureau (I.B.) were used as a front. It was the Third Agency which had planned and executed the Operation with the following three objectives: • To clinch the Hindu vote in the rest of India by giving the Sikh community a punch on the nose; • To take the wind out of the Opposition's sails by doing exactly what they had been saying the Government should do - attack the Golden Temple; • To test the efficiency of a Third Intelligence Agency camouflaged by the blundering RAW and an inefficient IB. The Third Agency has been assuming ever increasing role in the government's nefarious design to destablize non-Congress governments particularly since it initiated, conducted and concluded the Punjab Operation. The historic Sikh Reference Library and most of the priceless objects were destroyed on purpose 48 hours after the 'cease fire'. The entire responsibility for the carnage inside the Golden Temple up to the destruction of the Akal Takht (Seat of the Timeless) falls on Indira Gandhi alone. This 'success' helped her to regain confidence. Hardly had people recovered from the shock of the Army action in Punjab when the Jammu and Kashmir government was dismissed. Only three days after Dr. Farooq's dismissal the ridiculous hijacking took place. And then N.T. Rama Rao was pole axed even as he returned from a major heart operation. Cast in the same mold, Rajiv Gandhi played similar game as is apparent in that Agency's role to destablize Assam Government by initiating the Bodo agitation which has attracted sharp reaction from the Press and democratic institutions in India and abroad.

See, now you're giving the impression I sit around watching Looney Tunes cartoons all day. :biggrin2: They aren't my cup of tea but nevermind I'm not going into all that again. :blush2:

very good post and a brilliant idea - a nitnem buddy someone who will force you to get up and get it done and also sangat aswell so double the profit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAzo7bHz0yA

Gurumantra is given by Panj piaras at the time of baptism. They are acting as Guru panth. They say to recite waheguru only.This is the time a sikh is initiated.This is a sikh way since guru period. http://www.sikhs.org/ya6.htm Amrit: Ambrosia of eternal life, the Initiation of a Gursikh with Amrit, a Sikh form of Baptism. When the Sikh submits completely to the Guru, Five Gursikhs give him instructions regarding the Nitt Name, the Rehet, and how to meditate on a Word. Waheguru is the Sikh Gurmantra. Amrit is the only way to spiritually receive Gurmantra from the Sikh Guru. Having a Gurmantra is not an exclusive privilege of a Gursikh, though. It is an ancient practice, followed in some form by all serious seekers and Saints. Meditation on the Sikh Gurmantra without Amrit is compared to someone trying to earn a diploma without being enrolled in the school. A Gurmantra, with submission to a Guru and proper meditation, is essential for a true repose in God, leading to a wholesome life. To stress this, this is the only time the Fifth Master has used such harsh words: "A living being without a Gurmantra turns his precious human birth into disgrace. He becomes putrefied and foul. This fool is like a (helpless) dog, a (muck loving) swine, a donkey (toiling for others), a (vagrant) crow, and a (venomous) snake." (SGGS, p.1356)

Hahaha. Cartoons are the best though especially the older ones..anyone remember that Bugs bunny & co film with that tall kala basket ball player; what was the film called?lol

Vaheguru!

of course, their effort is brilliant

The purpose of sikh religion is that we are given human body to realize God and thus get rid of reincarnation.For that one has to do naam simran by following sikh code of conduct. This is what Guru sahib advises us Bhai prapat manukh dehriya Gobind milan ki eh teri bariya SGGS ji It says that one should get up in early morning hours.Obviously one has to concentrate on Naam simran during those hours.Moreover Gurumantra is given by panj piaras during baptism ceremony and they advise us orally to do naam simran jugti. So one should try to follow that instead of ridiculing it. Especially preachers should do their duty to tell sangat purpose of religion. shabad of guru ram dass ji

Brilliant post Mehtab

True, finally the village type loud mouth idiots have been subdued and pushed to the margins and the intelligent politically aware educated Sikh nationalists and human rights campaigners are taking the reigns to bring killers of Sikhs to justice. Education and understanding is the key....

At the end of the day everyone has a right to believe and practise as they wish... so does Nidar but in the Gurdwara's it must be the views of the Sangat... as his views are warped and his agenda is definitely anti-Sikh human rights, hence his hatred of any kharkoo singhs and his love of Nakli Nirankaris anywhere else we have no jurisdiction and neither do we need to go around telling people like pat o'malley, etc they don't even care about the things that are important to us as Sikhs, they would not understand, which is why when his students come out with oh look all the other martial artists 'Mann' him, that doesnt really mean anything to me. like "pat o malley 'manns' him so he must be a chardi klaa gursikh!" The Guru does not judge us on our skill, education, cleverness, worldly accolades or pat o malleys reference AT SUNDAR KULEEN CHATUR MUKH IYANEE DHANVANTH He may be very handsome, born into a highly respected family, very wise, a famous spiritual teacher, prosperous and wealthy; MIRTAK KAHIYAI NANAKA JEH PREET NAHEE BHAGVANT but even so, he is looked upon as a corpse, O Nanak, if he does not love the Lord God. ||1|| Contrary to what Nidar's students believe we are not out to destroy Nidar, we are just trying to educate the Sangat so they can judge for themselves and see the true agenda and message underlying Nidars Philosophy and mission, which he hides beneath a martial art. then they have the power to make an informed decision for themselves. I would advise anyone not to make this personal , even in warfare we must conduct ourselves with a little respect for our enemies. When Nidar went to national newspapers boasting clearly ridiculous claims, he put himself in the limelight and deserving of the criticism he is receiving now. His stance on Sikh Human rights is bordering on government agent or nakli nirankari, which sends my dodgy flag to RED ALERT! His insults towards respected shaheed singhs and making remarks about fauja singh which are clearly biased, just tells me he is being very clever in the way he is going about it. the Hindu-Sikh thing just tells me he is either confused or he has an agenda........ i mean if everything is one from the beginning of Vaheguru, why didnt he pick Sufi-Sikh, as Bhai Mardana was one of the first Sikh Followers, why pick hindu? if everything is snatan why even use Sikh..... Why did Guru Nanak attack most practices of the Brahmin Hindu, he says that Guru Nanak was born to protect the Hindu faith, in actual fact all throughout his life Guru nanak opposed the practices of the Brahmin Hindus, and suceeded in breaking people away from it. His first morcha was when he rejected the Hindu thread, I am passionate about this..... but I don't hate him.... or his students interesting quote... isn't this what Nidar is doing...

This is what happens when calm, reasonable approaches to an attack are FIRST taken instead of wanna-be Singhs reacting with Krodh. The violence and in-fighting in Gurdwaras abroad will only work against Sikhs when the "see, we told you so" right-wing hindu crowd come about to world leaders.

Well at least he hasn't completely caved into the Indians. That statement in bold in the original post is absolutely key, and no matter how much it angers and annoys the GOI they can't stop people from expressing their political opinions.

I promise I won't angry you... :happy2: God doesn't become angry. When you do bad things, it lowers your spirituality and takes you farther from God. This is the punishment you have brought upon yourself. Aapeh beejh, aapeh hee kaho As you sow, so you shall reap

Try to sing these lines to the tune of Michael Jackson’s Beat It. This is my impression of a Punjabi doctor asking his patient to take care of himself and consume the medicine : mai tenu bhejjeya si eh vaali dwaayi layn…aukhe hoye maa pey tere naale bhraa bhen…bina peete ehnu tenu auna naiyo chayn…chal pee lai…bas pee lai…pee laiiii pee laiii pee laiii pee laiii…chaar ghutt pee laii pee laiii…

left hand in many cultures such as islam and india is the so called "dirty hand", the hand that is used to wipe your butt and stuff like that. so they keep the right hand clean for religious reasons etc. as a sikh you don't need to worry about clean or unclean hands, its a load of bs. no one has ever told me it is bad. i use both my hands to do things. i use my right hand to write but i eat with my left hand (roti and crisps things like that). god gave you 2 hands. use them!

Speaking from traditional gurmat stand point- I wish there was any sugar coat way of putting this forward. But it appears there isn't.. After decades of de-marganlization and demonization of traditional gurmat concept and those who uphold it, its about time people rise against "protestant version of sikhi", i m not talking about traditions here but mainly talking about sanctity of Vahiguroo theological concept reduced to mere abhramic verison of God. Elitist superamist ideology came and hijacked gurmat- started super imposing its own view (Victorian protestant thought) on Gurmat and tried shoving Gurmat to tunnel (but maharaj parkash cannot be shoved in to tunnel), traditions are seperate story (another painful chapter), but whole theological definition of God(Vahiguroo) was changed from beautiful divine serene- sargun, shakta-shakti intertwined with nirgun chaitan- advait gurmat metaphysical concept to western/christian idea of God who is-'fearful angry','wrathful', 'who is confined to its adobe who gives naam jhapi to his followers upon arrival where he resides before inspecting his/her uniform' 'full of partiality'- accepting the passport/issuing visa to only those who have - kes/ki, kanga, kirpan, kachera, kara' along with all sarbloh- rest billions of jiv atma were demanded to go back in this earth take birth, follow this form otherwise all souls are naturally doomed in (birth and death cycle) until they take this form. And God who is only and only confined to "naam shabad" not sargun, nirgun, naam shabad, gyan saroop-advait (Sargun Nirgun Nirankar Sun Samadhi Aaap), God who only cares about- 'Vahiguroo dhuni', sas grass naam dridh', so so much these elitist superamist try changing vahiguroo to vahguru - Gurmantar, so it matches with their robotic sound resosance- their version of shabad surat marg , they were staunchly against all other mantra (forget about outside mantra, but were staunchly against all the mantra found in gurbani itself!!!!), which provides profound expereince of divine such as- ikongkar, Ongkar, satnaam, ikongkar satgurparsad, Gobinde Mukande Udhare Aparaie Hariang Kariang Nirname Akame, Aad Gureh Nameh Jugad Gureh Nameh Satguru Nameh Sri Gurdev Nameh, these superamist refuse to matha taikh to sri guru granth sahib sargun saroop written in pad ched form (let alone saints lol) and refuse to take parsad just like pandits from fellow gursikh who has vahiguroo jot in him, called anyone who disagree with them- anti panthic, rss, congress, evil snatan, manmatiya, manmukh. So yeah off course, according to these superamist eltist - only sikh is allowed in sachkhand, hell not even sikhs but only their tribal beleif- they don't even consider nirmale, sevapanthis, udasi sikhs, they all call them - kache, pillaie, dhillaie snantan hindus- hell if sri guru nanak dev ji nirankar gave them darshan with seli topi(one of relics at fort, kartarpur), they will probably knock maharaj topi off and put dummala with aad chand on instead of maharaj divine sargun darshan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So yeah i have every reason to be here present traditional views on sachkhand, after all traditional gurmat is de-marganalized/demonized and hijacked by eltist superamist. I refuse to sit here and listen to their "revisionist victorian protestant version of Sikhi".!!!!!!!!!!!!!