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  1. Looks photoshopped or a set up. We need to get wise to the fact that the Indians want Sikhs to die for them and I have seen so much bukwas on social media about how brave the Sikhs were when they took on the Chinese. These stories are meant to make us PROUD to be slaves of the Indians and fight on their behalf. We should let the Ladakhis, Himachali and Paharis fight against China because China is threatening their areas not Punjab. Just as the British recruited as many Sikhs as they could to die in their wars and yet when it came for them to award the Sikhs with their own state in 1947 they cited the fact that Sikhs have a small population. They forgot that the Sikhs had a small population when they need men to die in their wars. Let's not repeat the mistakes of the 19th and 2th centuries and fight and die for those who also oppress us.
    4 points
  2. We couldnt. And even if we could get khalistan then it would either be a majority hindu or muslim country. Also we dint had the capability to remove hindus and muslims both out panjab. We were just 14% of panjabs population in 47. Master Tara Singh made the best decision at that time. We could either be with the mullas or the hindus. If master ji choose to be with the pak govt, im sure harmandir sahib would have been destroyed, looted, and converted to a mosque. Dont forget no one is our friend. Just after few months kartarpur corridor was opened, the mullas attacked nankana sahib with the mob. But surely im not an indian supporter too. In 47 we as a panth had to choose the lesser of an evil community to stay with until we rise in numbers. Sikh leaders predicted that sikh birth rate would increase and hence make panjab after 47 a sikh majority, but it dint happen. Hopefully all the indian sikhs have at least 3 kids especially in panjab. If we did it then eventually we could defend the christian missionaries, and influx of biharis with our numbers.
    3 points
  3. No surprise there, if we fight their wars then SINGH IS KING and if we ask for our rights and our state then we are TERRORISTS.
    3 points
  4. a 50 year old bihari woman has been cleaning our house daily for the last 3 years. Last year she was very depressed with her life. Her daughter was not finding a match and her son was jobless. I told her to do gurbani but she said she is illiterate and can't read. I told her to memorize 2 pankitis of sukhmani sahib prabh Kai simran ridh sidh nau nidh prabh Kai simran gyaan dhyaan tatt budh She started doing these pankitis at least 1000 times a day and in just 1 year all her problems r solved. Her daughter completed her B.A and got job in a tuition centre in Bihar and also got married too. Her son opened a small shop and just in 1 year his shop got so popular that his shop has turned into a medium sized departmental store and he earns around 50000rs a month. This bihari lady is now leaving punjab and is going to live with her son in Bihar. She told me yesterday that as long as she lives she will continue to do jaap of these 2 pankitis. I also taught her mool mantar yesterday and she will do jaap of mool mantar too alongside the 2 pankitis.
    2 points
  5. I hv had so many biharis proudly tell me that Guru Gobind Singh Ji was born in their Bihar. There is so much parchar to be done on bihari brothers. Instead of wasting money of sangat,khalsa aid shud do some parchar on biharis in punjab.
    2 points
  6. I think Jvala Singh should be careful posting these type of posts on twitter and academics should be reviewing the works of others and then putting their views across. Posting such pictures stating that two researchers of Indian miniature paintings both agree that this is likely a painting of the Guru could be viewed as at best naïve and self publicising or at worst mischief making.
    2 points
  7. Think his death anniversary is coming up according to the calendar. Here are some eyewitness accounts of his funeral, i read them years ago and the sati part left me thinking about it for several days! just horrifying! But as the historical accounts state the queens and slave girls actually decided to become sati! they were even discouraged but they insisted on becoming sati. The queens that became sati were Rajput women so its no surprise that they became sati as it was considered a very honorable thing in that community, In fact when the news reached one of the Rajput queens fathers kingdom that she became sati, her father was so proud of her heroic act that he ordered a celebration in honor of her bravery! her father even ordered a painting to be done depicting his daughter becoming sati! Maharani Jind Kaur famously said that she won't become sati. This sati incident is often used as a criticism and as hypocrisy because Sikhi is against this act, but the women that became sati were Rajput women! and it was part if their culture, Rajput women actually chose to become sati as it was considered very heroic in their culture . The 7 dancing girls that committed sati were Kashmiri. The Ranis that became sati were Mehtab Devi, daughter of Raja Sansad Chand of Kangr. Rani Har Devi, the daughter of Chaudhri Ram, a Saleria Rajput. Rani Raj Devi Rani Rajno Devi "Early in the morning subsequent to that on which the death of the maharajah happened, I went down the Tukht (coronation-square), accompanied by Col. Henry Steinbach (lately in the service of the maharajah, Gholab Sing, in Cashmere, now in Europe), and we directed our steps towards the large yard, which we had to cross, in order to get betimes to a convenient place close to the funeral pile. This was erected between the walls and the fortress, in a small garden, the conflux of the people having been so enormous in the fortress. In the large yard, we observed one of the four ranees (queens) coming out of the harem on foot and unveiled, for the first time in her life. She was slowly proceeding towards the place where the royal body was lying, and she was surrounded by about one hundred persons, who kept themselves at some distance, while accompanying her. Close to her side there was a man carrying a small box, containing the remainder of her jewels (as she had already distributed some ), which she made presents of, handing them one by one to the people on her right and left. Two or three steps in front of her, there was a man moving in a backward direction, his face turned towards her, and holding a looking-glass, that she might convince herself that her features were unaltered, and no fear visible on them. At the distribution of the jewels, Col. Steinbach made the observation that, had we stretched out our hands to receive a present, it certainly would not have been denied; but we thought proper to leave it to the poorer people, because we occupied lucrative posts. It is curious, indeed, that this was the very ranee whom Runjeet Sing married in the first year of my residence in that country, ten years having passed since I witnessed the nuptials at Nadoun. She was, as I mentioned before, a daughter of Sunsarchund, and she had a younger sister, whom the maharajah at the same time took also for a wife, and conveyed them both to Lahore; the latter, I am told, had died of consumption during my absence. As for the former, although I was present at her wedding, I nevertheless had never seen her before, and it was only on her last fatal walk, which she took to her funeral pile, that I could behold her. The funeral train, accompanied by many thousands of spectators, was now proceeding; all were on foot, their abode in the fortress not being far distant from the place of the ceremony. The four ranees only were carried, in open palanquins, behind the deceased, after them followed the seven female slaves, barefooted; some of them appeared to be not more than fourteen or fifteen years of age. The ranees, too, were barefooted, their silk dresses were simple, and without any ornaments, and they appeared to be indifferent to the awful though voluntary fate which awaited them. Perhaps our hearts throbbed more at the view of this dismal train than those of the poor victims themselves. The body of Runjeet Sing was placed on a board, to which it was probably fastened, and was carried on a light and decorated bier constructed in the shape of a ship; the sails and flags of the vessel were made of rich golden and silk stuff (kimkab), and of Cashmere shawls. A number of people carried the bier from the interior of the fortress up to the funeral-pile, there the board with the body was taken out of it and deposited on the ground, where, on what was a small garden, now stands a summood, i.e., a tomb of the royal family Runjeet Sing, Kurruck Sing and No-Nehal Sing, i.e., the father, son, and grand-child, together with their wives and slaves. The costly ornaments of the richly decorated bier were given to the mob; the Brahmins performed their prayers from the Shaater, a book written in the Indian or Sanscrit language; the Gooroos, or priests of the Sikhs, did the same, from their holy scripture called Grunthsaheb, and the Musselmen accompanied them with their “Ya, Allah! Ya, Allah!” A slow, but not displeasing rumbling of the drums, and the murmuring of the people, gave to the whole scene a melancholy aspect, and was peculiar to the country. The funeral pile which displayed itself before the eyes of the spectators, was constructed of dry woods, amongst which there were pieces of aloe; it was about six feet high and square. After the prayers of the Brahmins and Gooroos, which lasted nearly an hour, the minister and other sirdars ascended by a ladder the funeral-pile, upon which ignitible matters and substances, as cotton seeds, &c., were strewn, and the royal body was respectfully placed in the middle of the pile, together with the board. After this, the ranees ascended the fatal ladder, one by one, according to their rank, the slaves followed, and the minister showed himself very officious in affording them assistance. The ranees placed themselves at the head of the royal body, and the slaves close at its feet. There they cowered, remaining in silent expectation for the fatal moment, when a strong thick mat of reeds being brought, with which the whole were covered, oil was then poured over the mat, the minister and sirdars descended, and the pile was lighted at each corner. In a few moments, the deplorable victims of an abominable and fanatic ceremony had ceased to exist" ..................................................................................................................... “The funeral obsequies of this extraordinary man were too remarkable not to be mentioned here. Upon his death being made public, the whole of the Sikh Sirdars at Lahore assembled to do honour to his suttee, and four of his favourite queens, together with seven female slaves, having, in conformity with the horrible practice of the country, expressed their intention of burning themselves upon the funeral pyre, preparations were immediately made for the solemnity. It is said that much dissuasion is exercised in cases of suttee; ostensibly such may be the case; but in private every argument to the contrary is made use of by the relatives of the wretched victim, and the promise once given cannot be retracted. A street of a double line of infantry having been formed, the procession proceeded at a slow pace to its destination, only a quarter of a mile distant, and within the precincts of the palace. The corpse of the late Maharaja, placed upon a splendidly gilt car, constructed in the form of a ship, with sails of gilt cloth to waft him (according to native superstition) into paradise, was borne upon the shoulders of soldiers, preceded by a body of native musicians, playing their wild and melancholy airs. His four queens, dressed in their most sumptuous apparel, then followed, each in a separate gilt chair, borne upon the shoulders of their attendants; the female slaves following on foot. Before each of the queens was carried a large mirror, and gilt parasol, the emblems of their rank. After them came the successor to the throne, the Maharaja Kurruck Singh, attended by the whole of the Sikh Sirdara, barefooted, and clothed in white; none but persons of noble rank permitted to join the procession. To the last moment of this terrible sacrifice, the queens exhibited the most perfect equanimity; far from evincing any dread of the terrible death which awaited them, they appeared in a high state of excitement, and ascended the funeral pile with alacrity. The slaves also appeared perfectly resigned, but less enthusiastic. The body of the Maharaja having been placed upon the pile, his queens seated themselves around it, when the whole were covered over a canopy of the most costly Kashmiri shawls. The Maharaja Kurruck Singh then taking a lighted torch in hand pronounced a short prayer, set fire to the pile, and in an instant the whole mass, being composed of very ignitable material, was in flames. The noise from the drums and shouts of the spectators immediately drowned any exclamation from the wretched victims.” ..................................................................... The painting that Rani Mehtab Devi's father, Maharaja of Kangra proudly ordered an artist to do!
    1 point
  8. When I was younger, I had no idea who Sant Ishtar Ji was. One day I saw a beautiful oil painting of Sant Ji. I couldn’t help but to keep staring at it. That night, I had a dream, where Sant Ji told me to tell my father to stop his alcohol business. I didn’t say anything to my father, because he was a very strong character, and we were all <banned word filter activated> scared of him. A few days later, my father announced that he was going to retire from the alcohol business. All this happened without my father knowing about the dream...
    1 point
  9. so sad to hear this from you. u r saying the same things I hear from urban Sikhs of Delhi and Ludhiana. There are thousands and thousands of families in punjab who want khalistan, including mine. We also hv jobs and businesses but we still hv time for the panth and it's sovereignty.
    1 point
  10. Sat Shri Akal sariyan nu to the reply of @Khaaik I feel everyone here have faith and live life accordingly Gurubani. Here is a explanation of @khaaik question. For more reference you may check the youtube link. I think Thakur Dalip Singh has valid point. We should serve to our own people(Sikhs) first, then we should serve to the rest of the world. Our Sikh community is getting shrink day by day because lack of the money, if we can't help our brothers or sisters when they are in need then who gonna help? Why christian community is getting bigger and stronger? Have you ever seen this community doing social service to other community? Have you ever seen them donating food, money, providing other things without converting into christian? Have you? @Khaaik @proactive@Sikhi4Ever @Kau89r8 @GurjantGnostic @puzzled @AjeetSingh2019
    1 point
  11. This needs to become an axiom that every Sikh should know.
    1 point
  12. True, but I think had the British arrived in Delhi and Punjab's frontier a few decades later than they actually did then it would have given him time to consolidate control over all of Punjab. When the British arrived he was only a minor King and his prestige came from ruling both Lahore and Amritsar. Had the British first come into contact with him in the early 1830s he would have taken control of the Sikh states in Malwa and this would have brought over 90% of the total Sikh population under his control as well as given Sikh state strategic depth in any future war with the British. The Sikh armies would have been closer to Delhi then the British would have been to Lahore. In that situation he could have kept the British at arms length and had relations with rival powers such as the Russians and French.
    1 point
  13. If just for one year the Panth were to fore go all the expenses that are spent on Nagar Kirtans, Langars, charities to non-Sikh causes etc, a lot of the issues that we discuss here could be easily solved. Until that happens personally rather than donating to charities that refuse to listen to your views I donate only to charities such as Your Seva, British Sikh Council and Sikh Relief. When you hit a brick wall with charities like Khalsa Aid, it is better to donate to those charities that are working in Punjab and with Sikhs.
    1 point
  14. The Japanese did this and isolated themselves from the 16th to 19th century. They also killed Japanese Christians who had converted under the Jesuits priests. It was only in mid 19th century that the Western powers forced Japan to open up and trade with them and the Japanese protected themselves from colonialization by modernising their army and their industries.
    1 point
  15. I haven't set up a charity but I do donate to charities that help Sikhs. Your attitude is the same as someone says to anyone who criticises the way a Gurdwara committee runs a Gurdwara "Go and set up your own Gurdwara if you think you can do better". Total idiocy and sycophancy. Khalsa Aid is an ideal charity for a self hating Sikh like you.
    1 point
  16. The GOI is very smart in their war against the Sikhs. They have employed all means whether it is Sam Dham Dand Bhed against the Sikhs. Spreading various lies against Sant ji is a part of this war tactic. Some of these lies were -Sant ji was a Congress agent. -Sant ji was power hungry. -Sant ji killed Hindus. -Sant wanted to declare himself as Guru of the Sikhs. We can parallels to this in our own history. The Mughals likewise spread such lies against Baba Banda Singh Bahadur. Some of those lies were: -Baba ji was power hungry. -Baba ji wanted to declare himself as Guru of the Sikhs.
    1 point
  17. Bhai sahib wrote this in their book too. Bhai Rama Singh ji also states this story in his autobiography alongside some other stories of the power of sukhmani sahib.
    1 point
  18. How should India govt handle the Chinese army incursion on the border?
    1 point
  19. Here is Ravi Singh in 2009 sanctimoniously criticising Sikh organisations for not helping poor Sikhs who are then forced to become Christians. Yet 11 years later he is doing exactly what he is criticising these Sikh organisations for doing ie ignoring Sikhs in need. is that not hypocrisy? How much money has Khalsa Aid spent on these poor Sikhs, if as he seems to imply there is a pressing need to help these Sikhs then why is less than 20% of Khalsa Aid fund being spent in India and probably half that on Sikhs?
    1 point
  20. I think we need to stop caring about the person doing the video. To be honest whenever I see the notification pop up on my phone for a new video it makes me happy and we should be greatful that those Singhs and Kaurs are giving up their jobs to make videos and change our lives. And about the part where you said that Bhai Jagraj was interesting guy. Yh I agree he was really inspiring but look at the other. Baljit Singh he used to be a hardcore smoker and did other bad stuff. Look at Sukhdeep he used to be a mona and if you actually go to park avenue Gurudwara you can see them there for 3 hours doing Katha and QnA afterwards.
    1 point
  21. Quran says beat your wives 4:34 ... As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lighty) doesn't sound very divine to me!
    1 point
  22. neither. They wouldn't be allowed to take Amrit.
    1 point
  23. Guru Sahib has already and clearly told us our destination. It would be outright stupid to ignore His holy words and pretend otherwise. What is Khalistan? Jab Lag Khalsa Rahe Niyara, Tab Lag Tej Deho Mai Saara Jab Eh Gaye Bipran Ki Reet, Mai Na Karahu Inn Ki Parteet Why Khalistan? Raaj Bina Neh Dharam Chale Hain, Dharam Bina Sab Daley Maley Hain! How will we achieve Khalistan? Koi Kisi Ko Raaj Na Deh Hai, Jo Leh Hai Nijj Bal Se Leh Hai What will be the future? Raj Karega Khalsa, Aaqi Rahe Na Koye Khuaar Hue Sab Milenge, Bache Sharan Jo Hoye Wake up to these words today, or wake up tomorrow when its too late. Choice is yours!
    1 point
  24. muslims points are a bunch of jokes. lets start on answering hindus - part 1
    1 point
  25. I lived in Delhi for 6 years and I was a khalistani then. there r some charrdikala Gursikhs in delhi who support the idea of khalistan.
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