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  1. Old Photos of Punjab of different people from different backgrounds and various different lifestyles Man and wife, Ferozpur 1941 Hindu man Shahbad 1860s 1910s 1910 Sikh and Hindu refugees 1947 bhakra dam under construction 1960s Sulej river 1860s 1903 Lahore 1945 Lahore 1910 mandir, lahore 1930s 1899 1950s udasi sikhs 1910 Amritsar 1901 Amritsar 1946 Lahore fabric stall Shopkeeper using balance scale to weigh portion of food for a customer in his food stall at market lahore 1946 lahore 1946 shop keepers Lahore 1946 food stall Street scenes lahore 1946 Prostitute lahore 1946 Punjabi man with his dancing bear Jogi Lahore 1860s lahore 1860s Sidhu Jatt Sikh Lahore 1860s Sarswati Brahmin lahore 1860s mazbhee Sikh lahore 1860s Sodhi Sikhs Hindu lahore arora hindu lahore Fakir in amritsar 1926 amritsar 1890 book sellers amrtisar aghori hindus lahore pandit outside mandir lahore shop Money lender of the of bania caste, vaisya the moneylenders wife and daughter making roti moneylender weighing grain for lady customer with a sikh customer receiving payback from a loan granthi at harmandir sahib 1902 Sikh/Hindu girls that were kidnapped during the partition were sent to Delhi from Pakistan, 1958 lahore museum teacher year 4 students granthi singh lahore 1946 lahore Amritsar GT road 1903 guru ka bagh morcha 1922 police arresting singhs akal bunga 1906
  2. Off late, I've been seeing this gentleman very often. Today I read a news piece calling him a follower of Santji, and somehow his story is related to Deep Sidhu. Can someone pls enlighten me what's happening?
  3. What is causing all the root problems for Sikhs? From weak leaders who can't run Punjab. To society issues in the Punjabi Sikh community back home and in the west Let's look at some main issues. Broken marriages/divorces, domestic violence, crime, sexual offenses/rape adultery,physical and mental health problems, family break downs, money,low morality,ethics and values and the list goes on ect. Feel free to add more issues affecting us. Can we pinpoint a root cause for all the above? I have a theory why Sikhs are failing not just in the west but in more importantly our own homeland Punjab.
  4. There is also a growing number of Punjabi in diaspora that are converting to Christianity. Wont be surprised if Punjab becomes majority Christian state within 5-10 years or less. Really sad and heartbreaking
  5. https://scroll.in/latest/1023049/punjab-bans-three-history-books-for-allegedly-distorting-facts-about-sikhs 10000000_674331940354195_8555428320862628616_n.mp4 10000000_674331940354195_8555428320862628616_n.mp4 10000000_674331940354195_8555428320862628616_n.mp4
  6. Lol why do people insist Pakistani Punjabis and Indian Punjabis are very similar and have similar culture. We don't. Their culture is entirely influenced by Islam.
  7. It's shocking how many mosques have been built in Punjab, just by this Kerala based Islamic group, never mind the hundreds more that have been re-started by Wakf board from post-47, and the new ones constructed by UP and Bihari muslims. Add to this mixture you have gujjars settling down and no doubt they will build their own. How many new Gurdwaras have Sikhs opened up in pakistan punjab, I wonder? We all the know the answer! Our kaum in Punjab needs to wake up and realize that we lost our prime agriculture land and half of our shrines on that side with an understanding of living free of them. It's basic survival instinct, and we seem to have traded it for virtue signalling and umbrella-holding pics for social media. https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/kerala-ngo-diverts-funds-via-jk-to-build-mosques-in-faridkot-382501 Kerala NGO diverts funds via J&K to build mosques in Punjab's Faridkot SHARE ARTICLE Tribune News Service Jupinderjit Singh Chandigarh, March 31 A Kerala-based NGO, Relief and Charitable Foundation of India (RCFI), which has no unit in Punjab, has caught the eye of the security agencies over its “curious” funding of the construction of three mosques in Faridkot district. One of the newly constructed mosques in Faridkot district. The funds, received from persons or organisations abroad, were diverted through two residents of Baramulla in Kashmir, who reportedly supervised the construction and paid the bills. These mosques, built between 2015 and 2017, are located within 40-70 km from the Pakistan border. A report by the Union Ministry of Home Affairs states the RCFI diverted international funds worth Rs 70 crore for the construction of mosques. The MHA had stopped the funding in August 2021, it is learnt. The Punjab Police and other security agencies had also red-flagged the matter. There are more than 200 mosques in the border districts of Ferozepur, Tarn Taran, Amritsar, Gurdaspur and Pathankot. Sources said many of these were built recently. Their location close to the border is also the subject of investigation. The RCFI has not responded in detail to queries made by The Tribune. One of its spokespersons, who identified himself as Salaam Ustaad confirmed the organisation had no unit in Punjab. He claimed a detailed reply to the allegations had already been sent to the MHA. He insisted the RCFI indulged in social work which was suffering due to the “arbitrary ban” on international funding imposed by the Union Government. The RCFI website says it is a certified non-denominational organisation founded in 2000, with the mission to uplift the socio-cultural aspects of backward sections at the grass-roots level. It does not mention the construction of mosques as its mandate. It claims, “The genesis of the RCFI is to improve the quality of life for the most marginalised communities. The organisation has directly reached almost 2.35 million people in 24 states with the support of national and international funding agencies and individual private donors. It works in diverse fields from water and sanitation to health, sustainable measures to support livelihood and disaster risk reduction and response, cultural restoration to school improvement, and family food security to individual special care programme.”
  8. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01g86qm/Our_World_No_Mans_Land/
  9. 3-4 weeks earlier 2 turban wearing sikhs knocked our door. They told me to vote for maheshinder Singh grewal belonging to badal party. They told me not to vote for kejriwal at all as he is RSS agent. My Hindu friends in Ludhiana told me that BJP is telling hindus that kejriwal is khalistani and has links with ISI and Pakistan. Basically bjp and badals are totally united in punjab and both of them hate kejriwal. Congress also dislikes kejriwal.
  10. There is a misconception here among some apne that only Mirpuris are carrying out grooming activities in the UK. The reality is some of you are naive. Many grooming gangs have been Pakistani Punjabis, and even Bangladeshis and Afghans. The partition violence, genocide and mass rapes were initiated and committed by Punjabi Muslims against Sikhs. The forced conversion of Sikh girls in Pakistan is carried out by Punjabi Muslims. Pakistani Punjabis are themselves no better than Mirpuris but scapegoat Mirpuris for everything wrong in their own communities. Many of the groomers have been Pakistani Punjabis yet some of you act like Pakistani Punjabis are culturally akin to Sikhs just because some Sikhs happen to speak in the same dialect of Punjabi as some Pakistanis. The ringleader of the Rochdale grooming gangs was a Pakistani Punjabi from Gujrat confirmed here. This gang was the most perverted of all grooming gangs and it was run by Pakistani Punjabis: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rochdale-grooming-gang-deportation-rights-10903124 Another Pakistani Punjabi extradited from Faisalabad. He is another pedo from Rochdale jailed for raping kids: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7942011/Child-rapist-fled-UK-Pakistan-begins-19-year-jail-term-extradited.html The grooming gangs in Oxford were Pakistani Punjabis (most Pakistanis there are Punjabis). You see names used by central Punjabi Jatt tribes such as "Virk" and "Dogar" : https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/14/oxford-gang-guilty-grooming-girls https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844528/Taxi-driver-three-friends-sentenced-total-68-years-gang-rape-drunk-woman-passenger.html Pakistani Punjabis have endless videos on tiktok mocking Sikh victims of grooming gangs just look at this page: tiktok.com/@datpakistanipunjabi
  11. Why dont sikhs ever unite and vote for people who stand for sikh rights but go give vote to Congress,aap and other nonsense? Muslims unite and vote for Congress as they know Congress will do things in their favor and not BJP or aap. So why do sikhs not vote for simranjeet Singh mann or people like him who stand for sikhs? Even jaswant singh khalra's wife didnt get elected when she stood for sikhs. I think our people deserve all this mess. We do not have an iota of ingroup loyalty nor do we have any vision for our future.
  12. He will ensure your used shoes are returned ?
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  14. These are drawings from an album called "the people of Punjab" drawn by Sanee the 'Draftman' (a native Hindoo) from Jullunder, 1860. (From the Toor Collection) ‘Band of Akalees-Umritsur’ 'Jut women & Sikh priest of Jalundhur reading Grunth’ ‘Jut Zumeendar of Jalundhur going to plough’ ‘Fukeer Pan-war & Lutari Fukeer’ ‘Pirzada Syeed & Rayu of Jalundhur’ ‘Caboolee Pathan’ (Kabuli Pathan) ‘Potowaree Rawul Pindee & Bunneah Tonk’ ‘Kuth[ree of] Noorpoor & Brah[min of] Bupowlia’ ‘Sikh soldier & Lumberdar of Jalundhur’ ‘Hafiz or blind men going on their way’ ‘Arrain Zameendars Jalundhur’ ‘Guddees of Hills’ ‘Kunchuns of Loodhiana’ (Kunchuns are 'Kanjar', which is a caste/quom in Punjab involved in nautch and to a lesser extent prostitution as their occupation) ‘Potawarees Rawul Pindee’ ‘Bayee woman taking dinner to her husband in fields’ ‘Parmahunt Fakeer & Nanak Punthee’
  15. How Christianity is growing among Mazhabi Sikhs & Valmiki Hindus in Punjab’s villages Christianity is growing in Punjab, mirroring what states like Tamil Nadu experienced in the 1980s and 1990s. Small churches are springing up on the rooftops of many villages. SHUBHANGI MISRA 2 December, 2021 10:44 am IST A Catholic church in Fatehgarh Churian, Gurdaspur | Shubhangi Misra | ThePrint Text Size: A- A+ Amritsar/Gurdaspur: Atop a roof in an obscure gully in Fatehgarh Churian, a Pentecostal church is in full swing. “Rabba rabba rabba rabba, pita parmeshwar teri aatma rahe… rabba rabba rabba rabba rabba…” a young boy raps into the mic, boosted to its maximum volume, adding to the trippy and eerie mood. The pastor places his hand on the heads of disciples as they shake violently. Some faint, others cry. But all are waiting for a miracle. Christianity is growing in Punjab, mirroring what states like Tamil Nadu experienced in the 1980s and 1990s. Small churches are springing up on the rooftops of many villages in Gurdaspur. Tired of centuries of casteism and systemic oppression, many Dalits, belonging to the Mazhabi Sikh and Valmiki Hindu communities living in Punjab’s border belt, have started looking to Christianity in the hope of a dignified life and access to better education. Kamal Bakshi is the state president of the United Christian Front, a group that has committees in 8,000 of Punjab’s 12,000 villages. According to him, there are 600-700 churches in Amritsar and Gurdaspur districts that belong to four Christian denominations. He says 60-70 per cent of these have sprung up in the past five years. The Christian faith has co-opted many of the cultural markers of Punjab, from turbans to tappe. On YouTube, one can find Christian giddas (a folk dance), tappe (a musical form) and boliyan (sung couplets), and songs in praise of Jesus in Punjabi. The visuals show men and women singing these songs in a rural Punjabi setup. With 14 million views, one song goes, ‘Har mushkil de wich, mera Yeeshu mere naal naal hai. Baap wangu karda fikar, te maa wangu rakhda khyaal hai’ (Jesus is with me through all my problems. He worries for me like a father and cares for me like my mother). Some converts from Sikhism don’t discard their turbans. “Clothes don’t determine anyone’s religion. I have been wearing a turban since I was a young boy. Why should I take it off now that I am a Christian? It’s a part of my identity,” a devotee who does not wish to be named tells ThePrint. Devotees also enter churches after covering their heads, as is the practice in gurdwaras, although this mandate seems to apply only to women. A woman prays at a church in Fatehgarh Churian, Gurdaspur | Shubhangi Misra | ThePrint Names are a similar case. While most Christians in the state use the surname ‘Massih’ to indicate their allegiance to the Church, many don’t change their previous names. For them, there’s a reason not to change their names: To take advantage of reservation for Dalits, which isn’t available if they convert. This is also cited as the reason census figures invariably miss much of the Christian population in Punjab, which then leads to negligent representation of the demographic in state politics. It has also led to a debate on reservation in the state — are converted Dalits no longer marginalised? The current demand of Christian bodies in Punjab is 2 per cent reservation in government jobs and the setting up of a state minorities commission. Also read: Punjab’s Dalits are shifting state politics, flocking churches, singing Chamar pride Conversion in border villages, Sikh authorities irked Sixty-year-old Sukhwant Kaur has no one but Jesus. A resident of Dujowal village in Amritsar district, she lives in a one-room house made of bricks, with no stove to cook on and no family to cook for. The only adornments in her house are posters of Jesus. “The Christian faith has given me a sense of community, Jesus has got rid of negative energy from my life,” she says. Formerly a Mazhabi Sikh, she converted to Christianity because she liked going to church. Like Sukhwant, many Valmikis and Mazhabis living in Punjab’s border belt, in Amritsar, Gurdaspur and Ferozepur districts, have embraced the Christian faith. Sukhwant Kaur at her house in Dujowal village, Amritsar district | Shubhangi Misra | ThePrint ThePrint visited Dujowal, a village 2 kilometres from the Pakistan border, where about 30 per cent of the voters are Christian, according to sarpanch Samuel Massih. There are two gurdwaras in the village — along with two churches and a temple. Awan, another border village, is the largest in the Ajnala assembly constituency in Amritsar district, with a population of 10,000. It’s home to four churches of different denominations — Roman Catholic, and Protestant denominations including Pentecostals and the Salvation Army. This conversion to Christianity has irked the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee, the organisation responsible for managing gurdwaras across Punjab and several other states. The committee has launched initiatives to ‘counter’ Christian conversion. One such effort is the ‘Ghar Ghar Andar Dharamsaal’ campaign, where volunteers go door-to-door to spread the word of Sikhism. Recently, Giani Harpreet Singh, jathedar of the Akal Takht — the highest seat of earthly authority for Sikhs — alleged that Christians were converting Sikhs in border villages through force and by luring them with money. Also read: Not royalty nor father figure — Why Punjab’s 1st Dalit CM Channi is a ‘refreshing change’ No reservation, ‘missing’ from census Even though there is a growing Christian electorate in the state, the community has negligible representation in state politics. There hasn’t been a single Christian MLA elected to the Punjab Legislative Assembly since independence. This lack of representation affects Christians even at the panchayat level. Sukhwinder Massih, 25, a resident of Awan village, tells ThePrint, “In our village, the Christian vote is more than the Jatt (Sikh) vote. And yet, they don’t let us Christians or Mazhabis become members of the panchayat.” He adds, “Even if our candidate wins in the reserved seat, they don’t grant their tenure any legitimacy. If the Akalis win, there’s a Jatt sarpanch. If the Congress wins, then again a Jatt sarpanch. Nobody listens to us, they all try to oppress us.” According to the 2011 census, Christians make up a little over 2 per cent of the population of Amritsar district, and 7.68 per cent in Gurdaspur, the district where they are most concentrated. News reports peg the Christian vote share in Gurdaspur district at 17 to 20 per cent. In the 2019 Lok Sabha elections, the Aam Aadmi Party’s (AAP) Christian candidate in the Gurdaspur constituency, Peter Massih, was defeated, coming in third after the Bharatiya Janata Party’s (BJP) Sunny Deol and the Congress’s Sunil Jakhar. Sonu Jaffer, an AAP leader and president of the Christian Samaj Front, which has 1 lakh members in Punjab, says, “If any Christian ever gets a ticket, it’s only from Gurdaspur. This time, I’m demanding a ticket from Ajnala constituency in Amritsar district. There are about 43,000 Christian voters here.” Gurdaspur District Congress President Roshan Joseph praying at Sunday mass, attended by approximately 1,000 people | Shubhangi Misra | ThePrint Kamal Bakshi says there is gross undercounting of Christians in the census. “Even if a person embraces Christianity, they don’t change their names in official documents so they can take advantage of reservation benefits. Because of this, the Christian population is grossly undercounted. At least 23 per cent of Gurdaspur is Christian, and the figures must be similar in Amritsar too,” he claims. Many Christians feel ostracised because they aren’t entitled to reservation benefits, even though their socio-economic profile is similar to Mazhabis and Valmikis. Thirty-eight-year-old Monica from Fatehgarh Churian says she doesn’t understand why this is happening to her community. “Christians have to work harder for everything. Our community is among the poorest of the poor, and yet we don’t get any reservations. Why is it nobody wants to lend us an ear? You’re the first one who has ever come here and asked us what we want,” she tells ThePrint. According to Bakshi, 95 per cent of Christians in Punjab are converts, and an overwhelming majority come from Dalit backgrounds. Thus, the lack of reservation feels discriminatory. Other grassroots leaders share this sentiment. Roshan Massih, the Congress’s Gurdaspur district president, says, “Once a Dalit chooses to be a Christian, they stop getting any reservation benefits and face social ostracisation. So, people try to hide their identity, which is why government figures don’t reflect the correct number of Christians in the state. It’s discriminatory not to extend benefits reserved for the SC Sikh and Hindu community to Christians, who need it just as much.” Also read: Low enrolment & farmers ‘unpaid’ in Punjab’s ‘Pani Bachao, Paise Kamao’ scheme, but power saved Reasons for conversion A grandiose ‘Jatt’ gurdwara towering over a dilapidated ‘Dalit’ gurdwara is a common sight in Punjab’s villages. There are often two or three gurdwaras belonging to different castes, symptomatic of the deep-rooted nature of caste in the region. This can feel alienating, and the Church gives a sense of community. Daniel B. Das, director, socio-economic issues, Church of North India, tells ThePrint that “95 per cent of Christians in Punjab belong to the same class and the same previous caste, so there’s absolutely no space for discrimination here, as happens sometimes in South India. Dalits look to Christianity for the security and equality it offers them”. Bakshi adds, “They say we allure people with money, when all people look for in the Church is equality. It’s the limitations of other religions, like the propagation of untouchability, that they don’t want to address.” Access to good education is another reason people embrace Christianity. The staff of St Francis Convent School, Fatehgarh Churian, inform ThePrint that the organisation spends Rs. 90 lakh per year on providing children with free or subsidised education. Out of the school’s 3,500 pupils, 400 pay almost nothing. The staff say buses get students to the school from five-six villages within a 20-kilometre radius of Fatehgarh Churian free of cost. “My kids study here for a paltry sum of Rs. 200-300 and are doing well in life. I owe a lot of gratitude to the Church, they really help people out. Fathers and Sisters always help a pucca Catholic out,” says Soniya Massih from Nawa Pind. A pastor blesses women at a Pentecostal church opened in a house in Fatehgarh Churian, Gurdaspur | Shubhangi Misra | ThePrint The diocese of Amritsar, under Bishop Pradeep Kumar Sumantaroy, has emphasised the importance of imparting education, says Daniel B. Das. He adds that Roman Catholics have opened five-six schools in Amritsar and Tarn Taran districts, as well as 40 after-school classes attended by 880 children. “He (the bishop) has given strict instructions to heads of institutes that no child is to be denied admission in schools just because their parents can’t pay for education, regardless of the faith the kid belongs to,” Das says. But even with the focus on education, Christian leaders stress the lack of it in their community. AAP leader and Christian Front president Jaffer says, “The biggest problem facing Christians is lack of education. The quality of education is very poor, and as most Christians in Punjab come from mazdoor (labourer) backgrounds and poor families, they’re not politically aware, and the community suffers from a lack of representation.” However, Sukhwant Kaur says religion isn’t a factor for her when it comes to voting. “You build a house for me, give me rations and I’ll vote for you,” she says. And when asked about getting money for converting, she laughs it off. “The pastors are as poor as I am. They have nothing to offer but peace,” she adds. (Edited by Rohan Manoj) https://theprint.in/india/how-christianity-is-growing-among-mazhabi-sikhs-valmiki-hindus-in-punjabs-villages/775047/
  16. https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/punjab/migration-may-have-led-to-decline-in-sikh-count-125038 Of all communities, Sikhs have reported maximum decline in population, according to the religion-based census data (2001-2011) released by the Centre yesterday. The decadal growth rate in Sikh population was pegged at 24.3 per cent in 1991, which fell to 18.2 per cent in 2001 and further to 8.4 per cent in 2011. The fall in 2001-2011 is 9.8 per cent when compared with the 1991-2001 census — 15.9 per cent in two decades. For Hindus, the decline in growth rate is 3.5 per cent, Muslims 4.9 per cent and Christians 7.1 per cent for 2001-2011. Aswini Nanda, demographic expert, says migration of Sikhs to countries such as the US, the UK and Canada was the main reason for fall in their population. He said a significant number of Sikhs had also moved to Italy and Australia — two new destinations for the community. Many of them are also settled in Norway and some other countries in Europe, he said. Other reasons being cited by experts include prosperity. Sikhs were reportedly more prosperous and adopted family planning schemes earlier than others. A reason for switching to smaller families may be the shrinking land holdings, which they decided not to divide further. The share of Sikhs in the country’s population has come down to 1.7 per cent in 2011 against 1.9 per cent in 2001. Their number is pegged at 2.08 crore — fourth on the population chart. The first slot goes to Hindus with 79.8 per cent proportion of the total population, Muslims with 14.2 per cent are placed at number 2 and Christians with 2.3 per cent are third. In Punjab, the Sikh population has fallen to 57.7 per cent in 2011 as compared to 59.9 per cent in 2001, while that of Hindus has grown to 38.5 per cent from 36.9 per cent. In Chandigarh, the Sikh population has come down to 13.1 per cent in 2011 from 16.1 per cent in 2001. Same is true for Delhi and Haryana. In Delhi, it fell from 4 to 3.4 per cent and from 5.5 to 4.9 per cent in Haryana. In J&K, the Sikh population stands at 1.9 per cent, in HP at 1.2 per cent, Uttarakhand at 2.3 per cent, and Rajasthan at 1.3 per cent. In almost all other states, it is varies from 0.1 per cent to 0.3 per cent.
  17. Surprising, but oh well, good news if the survey was done properly. SUMMARY Around 82 per cent Sikh youngsters pray regularly or sometimes even if there is no festival being celebrated. The corresponding figure was 74 per cent for Christians, 72 per cent for Muslims, 69 per cent for Hindus and 46 per cent for others. Around 86 per cent Sikh youngsters visited a place of worship (gurudwara) even when there was no festival, compared to 57 per cent each for Hindus and Christians and 56 per cent for Muslims. The share of Sikh youth drawn towards TV channels showing religious programming has gone up from the previous round of the survey, which is opposite to the trend observed across all other communities. In 2016, 73 per cent Sikhs reported watching religious shows on TV, which has risen to 82 per cent this year. On comedy movies on religious leaders, 85 per cent Sikhs supported a ban, followed by 65 per cent Christians, 49 per cent Hindus and 36 per cent Muslims. Here too, more Muslims opposed (46 per cent) such a ban than those who supported it. https://theprint.in/india/82-sikh-youth-pray-regularly-highly-religious-compared-to-others-shows-csds-lokniti-survey/784879/
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    Life in Punjab (old)

    Can you share stories of life in Punjab that you heard from your grandparents or great-grandparents.
  19. Would be interesting to know how the british imperialist colonialists treated the natives of punjab and how sikh raja's of nabha,faridkot,jind, patiala, karputala treated their subjects from eye witness accounts.
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